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Posted: 2/28/2020 3:29:38 PM EDT
A Japanese machine gun from an A6M Zero Kamikaze lodged in the barrels of a Quad 40 mm Bofors AA gun after impact aboard USS Missouri (April 11, 1945). After action report: 1442 Commences firing on a low flying Zeke coming directly in on starboard quarter, bearing 150 degrees T, distance 7,000 yards [approx. 4 miles], altitude 100 feet. 1443 Zeke [Mitsubishi A6M Zero] crashed ship at frame 169 starboard about 3 feet below main deck level. The ship was sprayed with parts of the plane, and the plane's starboard wing was thrown forward to the first superstructure [01 level just aft of the Surrender Deck] frame 102, inboard of "5 mount #3. A gasoline fire resulted at this point. The mutilated body of the pilot landed on aft main deck. 1446 Fires were reported under control. No casualties, damage only superficial caused by fire. Minor damage to 40mm quad #17 and bulwark area. |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 3:31:51 PM EDT
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Wow that’s something else.
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Posted: 2/28/2020 3:32:02 PM EDT
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Sounds like a very exciting moment for the crew.
Glad everyone was ok. (Well, except for the kamikaze, he wasn’t ok 
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Posted: 2/28/2020 3:32:49 PM EDT
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Any pics of the mutilated pilot body?
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Posted: 2/28/2020 3:35:04 PM EDT
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Any pics of the mutilated pilot body?
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Posted: 2/28/2020 3:35:29 PM EDT
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Looks a lot like a Browning MG. Did they use a copy, or was it a kinda-sorta thing like their attempt at a Garand?
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Posted: 2/28/2020 3:37:40 PM EDT
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Looks a lot like a Browning MG. Did they use a copy, or was it a kinda-sorta thing like their attempt at a Garand? 
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Posted: 2/28/2020 3:38:29 PM EDT
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Looks a lot like a Browning MG. Did they use a copy, or was it a kinda-sorta thing like their attempt at a Garand? |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 3:40:07 PM EDT
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They had lots of Browning designed MGs, including 20mm versions. http://www.lonesentry.com/ordnance/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/20mm-aircraft-cannon-ho-5.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looks a lot like a Browning MG. Did they use a copy, or was it a kinda-sorta thing like their attempt at a Garand? http://www.lonesentry.com/ordnance/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/20mm-aircraft-cannon-ho-5.jpg 
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Posted: 2/28/2020 3:40:46 PM EDT
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https://i.redd.it/prhzx9hmznj41.jpg A Japanese machine gun from an A6M Zero Kamikaze lodged in the barrels of a Quad 40 mm Bofors AA gun after impact aboard USS Missouri (April 11, 1945). After action report: 1442 Commences firing on a low flying Zeke coming directly in on starboard quarter, bearing 150 degrees T, distance 7,000 yards [approx. 4 miles], altitude 100 feet. 1443 Zeke [Mitsubishi A6M Zero] crashed ship at frame 169 starboard about 3 feet below main deck level. The ship was sprayed with parts of the plane, and the plane's starboard wing was thrown forward to the first superstructure [01 level just aft of the Surrender Deck] frame 102, inboard of "5 mount #3. A gasoline fire resulted at this point. The mutilated body of the pilot landed on aft main deck. 1446 Fires were reported under control. No casualties, damage only superficial caused by fire. Minor damage to 40mm quad #17 and bulwark area. |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 3:41:03 PM EDT
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That's a man who believed in what he was doing. He lived his life, leading up to that moment. He trained, survived thus far in the war, sworn to be a Kamikaze, survived training, took off on his day, actually found the enemy fleet, identified one of the most powerful modern warships in the world as his target, survived the interceptors, survived the picket ships, and survived the incoming fire to deliver his final act... by splattering against it, accomplishing approximately nothing. Now he's only remembered as a stat, as "mutilated body of the pilot" in a neat photo, or to have jokes made about him by people on a technological network he couldn't even imagine, 75 years later.
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Posted: 2/28/2020 3:43:23 PM EDT
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My pop was a gunnery officer on her back in WW2
Kamikaze attacks affected him profoundly. He would talk alot about his 23 yrs in the Navy and even about the war but questions in that area were something he did not want to talk about. |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 3:43:53 PM EDT
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It may be this one, Type 97
The Type 97 machine gun closely resembled the Army Type 89 machine gun but was the standard fixed light machine gun on Navy aircraft. A licensed copy of the Vickers Class E, it was belt-fed and used a short recoil toggle locked action. It synchronized particularly well and was the standard nose armament on the A6M "Zero." Illustrating the lack of cooperation between the two Japanese services, the Type 97 and Type 89 were chambered for rounds of slightly different cartridge length and thus their ammunition was not interchangeable. |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 3:44:25 PM EDT
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I toured the Missouri in 2001. As I recall there is a slight divot right at the deck line port side from another kamikaze hit. Basically left a scratch that they decided to leave as a souvenir.
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Posted: 2/28/2020 3:47:38 PM EDT
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That's a man who believed in what he was doing. He lived his life, leading up to that moment. He trained, survived thus far in the war, sworn to be a Kamikaze, survived training, took off on his day, actually found the enemy fleet, identified one of the most powerful modern warships in the world as his target, survived the interceptors, survived the picket ships, and survived the incoming fire to deliver his final act... by splattering against it, accomplishing approximately nothing. Now he's only remembered as a stat, as "mutilated body of the pilot" in a neat photo, or to have jokes made about him by people on a technological network he couldn't even imagine, 75 years later. [NEAT.jpg] |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 3:51:17 PM EDT
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Did kamikazes do the suicide crash after they exhausted all their bombs and ammo?
Because it makes sense, in WWII timeframe, to smash into the decks of ships while you still have ALL of your bombs and ordinance. Thereby ensuring all of your few thousand pounds of bombs lands on target rather than just hoping your shitty WWII gravity bombs actually landed on target. Could you imagine Pearl Harbor if, instead of dropping torps and bombs and strafing runs, 75% of the planes just said, “fuck it, were going in kamakzi with all our armament intact right at the beginning”. It’d be like attacking 1940’s naval targets with cruise missiles. |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 3:52:00 PM EDT
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Any pics of the mutilated pilot body? Click To View Spoiler Burial at sea, draped with an improvised Japanese flag "Debris from the plane cluttered the deck. One of the plane's machine guns impaled a 40-mm anti-aircraft gun barrel. The plane's wing that had not fallen into the sea was turned over to the crew to be cut up into souvenirs. A corpsman discovered the remains of the young Kamikaze pilot; only his upper torso was found. He called up to the bridge, asking whether he should discard it overboard. Missouri Captain William M. Callaghan made his controversial decision: "No, when we secure, take it down to the sick bay, and we'll have a burial for him tomorrow.' This did not sit well with many of Missouri's crew. The pilot's remains were taken to sick bay for examination before it was placed in a canvas bag and weighted down with dummy shell casings. Three of the crew stitched together together an improvised Japanese flag. During the examination, various crew members took souvenirs, including the helmet, scarf and jacket. The next day, April 12, a burial at sea with military honors was performed. The ship's chaplain performed the service and six pall bearers tipped the flag-draped remains into the sea to a volley of rifle fire. Although there was much bitterness among some of the crew, Captain Callaghan insisted it was the honorable thing to do. The pilot was "a fellow warrior who had displayed courage and devotion, and who had paid the ultimate sacrifice with his life, fighting for his country". He understood his crew's feelings toward the enemy-- his own brother had been killed fighting the Japanese on Guadalcanal three years earlier-- but he felt it necessary to show honor and respect to a brave warrior, even if he was the enemy. He believed the kamikaze pilot was doing his job, as his country demanded." Setsuo Ishino: 
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Posted: 2/28/2020 3:52:56 PM EDT
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When you hear the term "built like a tank" or "built like a battleship", I guess they were serious. I like the comment..."only superficial damage". Many destroyers and lighter ships didn't fare as well. Big Mo is a tough MOFO.
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Posted: 2/28/2020 3:58:59 PM EDT
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Did kamikazes do the suicide crash after they exhausted all their bombs and ammo? Because it makes sense, in WWII timeframe, to smash into the decks of ships while you still have ALL of your bombs and ordinance. Thereby ensuring all of your few thousand pounds of bombs lands on target rather than just hoping your shitty WWII gravity bombs actually landed on target. |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 4:01:55 PM EDT
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The mutilated body of the pilot landed on aft main deck. 1446 Fires were reported under control. No casualties  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 4:01:56 PM EDT
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Looks a lot like a Browning MG. Did they use a copy, or was it a kinda-sorta thing like their attempt at a Garand? |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 4:08:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They copied Browning designs and had licensed-built or copied versions of German and British machine guns as well. Their rifle caliber machine gun ammunition supply was crazy. 7.7mm rimless, rimmed (essentially .303 British) and semi-rimmed varieties, 6.5mm, and a copy of the German 7,9 Mauser cartridge. Some calibers were more or less service branch-specific. In .50 caliber and up, there were also copies of western calibers. |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 4:14:04 PM EDT
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Thanks
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80-G-278957: USS Missouri (BB 63), image of destruction and the remains of a Japanese suicide pilot on deck following an attack with viscera on basket and torse at right. Image received on 2 November 1945. "Debris from the plane cluttered the deck. One of the plane's machine guns impaled a 40-mm anti-aircraft gun barrel. The plane's wing that had not fallen into the sea was turned over to the crew to be cut up into souvenirs. A corpsman discovered the remains of the young Kamikaze pilot; only his upper torso was found. He called up to the bridge, asking whether he should discard it overboard. Missouri Captain William M. Callaghan made his controversial decision: "No, when we secure, take it down to the sick bay, and we'll have a burial for him tomorrow.' This did not sit well with many of Missouri's crew. The pilot's remains were taken to sick bay for examination before it was placed in a canvas bag and weighted down with dummy shell casings. Three of the crew stitched together together an improvised Japanese flag. During the examination, various crew members took souvenirs, including the helmet, scarf and jacket. The next day, April 12, a burial at sea with military honors was performed. The ship's chaplain performed the service and six pall bearers tipped the flag-draped remains into the sea to a volley of rifle fire. Although there was much bitterness among some of the crew, Captain Callaghan insisted it was the honorable thing to do. The pilot was "a fellow warrior who had displayed courage and devotion, and who had paid the ultimate sacrifice with his life, fighting for his country". He understood his crew's feelings toward the enemy-- his own brother had been killed fighting the Japanese on Guadalcanal three years earlier-- but he felt it necessary to show honor and respect to a brave warrior, even if he was the enemy. He believed the kamikaze pilot was doing his job, as his country demanded." |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 4:20:35 PM EDT
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Missouri Memorial, Facebook In the pilot's last letter to his mother, he says this: (translated in English) Dear Mom, (April 6, 1945) The time has come for me to blossom at long last. I am fulfilling my final duty with a smile. Please don't say anything; this is for our country. The next time we see each other, we will be under the beautiful cherry blossom trees at Yasukuni Shrine. Please don't cry; only smile and tell me "well done." I will be praying for everyone's good health forever and forever. Please take good care of yourself. I have long prepared for this day. I will strike directly toward an enemy aircraft carrier. Respectfully, Setsuo |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 4:26:53 PM EDT
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80-G-278957: USS Missouri (BB 63), image of destruction and the remains of a Japanese suicide pilot on deck following an attack with viscera on basket and torse at right. Image received on 2 November 1945. (Taken at NARA II 8/14/2013). https://www.flickr.com/photos/127906254@N06/15091080958/ Click To View Spoiler Burial at sea, draped with an improvised Japanese flag "Debris from the plane cluttered the deck. One of the plane's machine guns impaled a 40-mm anti-aircraft gun barrel. The plane's wing that had not fallen into the sea was turned over to the crew to be cut up into souvenirs. A corpsman discovered the remains of the young Kamikaze pilot; only his upper torso was found. He called up to the bridge, asking whether he should discard it overboard. Missouri Captain William M. Callaghan made his controversial decision: "No, when we secure, take it down to the sick bay, and we'll have a burial for him tomorrow.' This did not sit well with many of Missouri's crew. The pilot's remains were taken to sick bay for examination before it was placed in a canvas bag and weighted down with dummy shell casings. Three of the crew stitched together together an improvised Japanese flag. During the examination, various crew members took souvenirs, including the helmet, scarf and jacket. The next day, April 12, a burial at sea with military honors was performed. The ship's chaplain performed the service and six pall bearers tipped the flag-draped remains into the sea to a volley of rifle fire. Although there was much bitterness among some of the crew, Captain Callaghan insisted it was the honorable thing to do. The pilot was "a fellow warrior who had displayed courage and devotion, and who had paid the ultimate sacrifice with his life, fighting for his country". He understood his crew's feelings toward the enemy-- his own brother had been killed fighting the Japanese on Guadalcanal three years earlier-- but he felt it necessary to show honor and respect to a brave warrior, even if he was the enemy. He believed the kamikaze pilot was doing his job, as his country demanded." Setsuo Ishino: https://www.pacificwrecks.com/ships/usn/BB-63/1945/po2c-ishino-setsuo.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any pics of the mutilated pilot body? Click To View Spoiler Burial at sea, draped with an improvised Japanese flag "Debris from the plane cluttered the deck. One of the plane's machine guns impaled a 40-mm anti-aircraft gun barrel. The plane's wing that had not fallen into the sea was turned over to the crew to be cut up into souvenirs. A corpsman discovered the remains of the young Kamikaze pilot; only his upper torso was found. He called up to the bridge, asking whether he should discard it overboard. Missouri Captain William M. Callaghan made his controversial decision: "No, when we secure, take it down to the sick bay, and we'll have a burial for him tomorrow.' This did not sit well with many of Missouri's crew. The pilot's remains were taken to sick bay for examination before it was placed in a canvas bag and weighted down with dummy shell casings. Three of the crew stitched together together an improvised Japanese flag. During the examination, various crew members took souvenirs, including the helmet, scarf and jacket. The next day, April 12, a burial at sea with military honors was performed. The ship's chaplain performed the service and six pall bearers tipped the flag-draped remains into the sea to a volley of rifle fire. Although there was much bitterness among some of the crew, Captain Callaghan insisted it was the honorable thing to do. The pilot was "a fellow warrior who had displayed courage and devotion, and who had paid the ultimate sacrifice with his life, fighting for his country". He understood his crew's feelings toward the enemy-- his own brother had been killed fighting the Japanese on Guadalcanal three years earlier-- but he felt it necessary to show honor and respect to a brave warrior, even if he was the enemy. He believed the kamikaze pilot was doing his job, as his country demanded." Setsuo Ishino: https://www.pacificwrecks.com/ships/usn/BB-63/1945/po2c-ishino-setsuo.jpg |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 4:28:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/28/2020 4:32:44 PM EDT
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The dent is still on the ship today.
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Posted: 2/28/2020 4:43:05 PM EDT
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No they hit with the bomb on the plane if they made it through the AA fire Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Did kamikazes do the suicide crash after they exhausted all their bombs and ammo? Because it makes sense, in WWII timeframe, to smash into the decks of ships while you still have ALL of your bombs and ordinance. Thereby ensuring all of your few thousand pounds of bombs lands on target rather than just hoping your shitty WWII gravity bombs actually landed on target. The Kamikaze pilots were escorted by veteran pilots who led them to the target area - they turned back to land, refuel, and prepare for their next escort run of more Kamikazes. Kamikaze pilots were instructed to go for carriers, but most of the time, due to their inexperience, they went after the first ships in sight. This is why U.S. destroyers suffered the worst during Kamikaze attacks as they were always out in front serving as radar pickets for the rest of the fleet. That combined with their light armor and smaller size contributed to their higher loss rate compared to other vessels in the fleet. |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 4:49:45 PM EDT
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Sweepers sweepers man your brooms. Give the ship a clean sweep down fore and aft, sweep down all lower decks, ladders and passageways, now sweepers.
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Posted: 2/28/2020 4:51:45 PM EDT
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https://m.blog.hu/le/lemil/photo801.jpg https://m.blog.hu/le/lemil/photo798.jpg Missouri Memorial, Facebook In the pilot's last letter to his mother, he says this: (translated in English) Dear Mom, (April 6, 1945) The time has come for me to blossom at long last. I am fulfilling my final duty with a smile. Please don't say anything; this is for our country. The next time we see each other, we will be under the beautiful cherry blossom trees at Yasukuni Shrine. Please don't cry; only smile and tell me "well done." I will be praying for everyone's good health forever and forever. Please take good care of yourself. I have long prepared for this day. I will strike directly toward an enemy aircraft carrier. Respectfully, Setsuo |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 4:56:27 PM EDT
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Pic seems odd...Gun looks like it was placed into the barrel. So a Jap Zero fighter plane crashed into that gun yet no viable damage to shielding, no fire damage, no bent gun, even the gun's flash hider is not bent in the pic after receiving a direct impact from either the engine and cowling or wing, all after a raging fighter plane crashed into it screaming from the sky....what I am missing?
Not saying it didn't happen, just don't understand the realities from the kamikaze attacks I've seen before in vids and how a small 40 mm gun or a flash hider does not get bent after such an impact. |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 5:08:07 PM EDT
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Pic seems odd...Gun looks like it was placed into the barrel. So a Jap Zero fighter plane crashed into that gun yet no viable damage to shielding, no fire damage, no bent gun, even the gun's flash hider is not bent in the pic after receiving a direct impact from either the engine and cowling or wing, all after a raging fighter plane crashed into it screaming from the sky....what I am missing? Not saying it didn't happen, just don't understand the realities from the kamikaze attacks I've seen before in vids and how a small 40 mm gun or a flash hider does not get bent after such an impact. After the aircraft impacted and broke apart, one of its machine guns went flying and speared itself into the barrel of that 40mm gun. Dent on side of hull from the impact: 
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Posted: 2/28/2020 5:21:30 PM EDT
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This. The Kamikaze pilots were escorted by veteran pilots who led them to the target area - they turned back to land, refuel, and prepare for their next escort run of more Kamikazes. Kamikaze pilots were instructed to go for carriers, but most of the time, due to their inexperience, they went after the first ships in sight. This is why U.S. destroyers suffered the worst during Kamikaze attacks as they were always out in front serving as radar pickets for the rest of the fleet. That combined with their light armor and smaller size contributed to their higher loss rate compared to other vessels in the fleet. I feel something for the cadets who got voluntold to be kamikaze. WWII era Bushido was not a grassroots philosophy, it was suffocating propaganda pounded into generations of expendable slaves by a ruthless military dictatorship masquerading as a theocracy which was itself masquerading as a parliamentary democracy. It's not like Setsuo Ishino could get on Google to find out the emperor wasn't literally God, everybody and everything around him since birth told him so. And if he did find out otherwise and told somebody else he would have lasted about 5 minutes before the Kempeitai beat him to death. |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 5:31:55 PM EDT
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Sweepers sweepers man your brooms. Give the ship a clean sweep down fore and aft, sweep down all lower decks, ladders and passageways, now sweepers. 
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Posted: 2/28/2020 5:33:50 PM EDT
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Here I thought they got a stripped plane, a bomb and a one way ticket
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Posted: 2/28/2020 5:38:03 PM EDT
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Little stain wouldn't have needed to fight for his country if his country hadn't started shit. Fuck'im. He didn't deserve a burial at sea. They should've used his carcass as a paint mop to repair the scratch he put in the hull, then chuck his worthless ass in the ocean. 
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Posted: 2/28/2020 5:44:57 PM EDT
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An American seaman looks at the charred corpse of a Japanese flier brought up from the bottom of Pearl Harbor, where he crashed with his burning plane during the Japanese attack on December 7, 1941 in Hawaii
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Posted: 2/28/2020 5:46:12 PM EDT
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Little stain wouldn't have needed to fight for his country if his country hadn't started shit. Fuck'im. He didn't deserve a burial at sea. They should've used his carcass as a paint mop to repair the scratch he put in the hull, then chuck his worthless ass in the ocean. |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 5:55:37 PM EDT
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The Kamikaze didn't strike the 40mm gun - it struck the side of the ship right at deck level. After the aircraft impacted and broke apart, one of its machine guns went flying and speared itself into the barrel of that 40mm gun. Dent on side of hull from the impact: https://djwong.org/photography/oahu_2010/mighty_mo/img_0382.jpg 
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Posted: 2/28/2020 6:00:31 PM EDT
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Prayers for the souls of those navy men who faced that nightmare.
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Posted: 2/28/2020 6:09:30 PM EDT
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An American seaman looks at the charred corpse of a Japanese flier brought up from the bottom of Pearl Harbor, where he crashed with his burning plane during the Japanese attack on December 7, 1941 in Hawaii Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 6:20:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/28/2020 6:28:53 PM EDT
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Little stain wouldn't have needed to fight for his country if his country hadn't started shit. Fuck'im. He didn't deserve a burial at sea. They should've used his carcass as a paint mop to repair the scratch he put in the hull, then chuck his worthless ass in the ocean. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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https://m.blog.hu/le/lemil/photo801.jpg https://m.blog.hu/le/lemil/photo798.jpg Missouri Memorial, Facebook In the pilot's last letter to his mother, he says this: (translated in English) Dear Mom, (April 6, 1945) The time has come for me to blossom at long last. I am fulfilling my final duty with a smile. Please don't say anything; this is for our country. The next time we see each other, we will be under the beautiful cherry blossom trees at Yasukuni Shrine. Please don't cry; only smile and tell me "well done." I will be praying for everyone's good health forever and forever. Please take good care of yourself. I have long prepared for this day. I will strike directly toward an enemy aircraft carrier. Respectfully, Setsuo Dude. The guy was a warrior who died in battle trying to close with and kill his enemy. It's not personal. It's just business.
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Posted: 2/28/2020 6:29:28 PM EDT
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Little stain wouldn't have needed to fight for his country if his country hadn't started shit. Fuck'im. He didn't deserve a burial at sea. They should've used his carcass as a paint mop to repair the scratch he put in the hull, then chuck his worthless ass in the ocean. To be clear - yes, the enemy needs killing - no, we don't need to be assholes about it. The moral high ground is important terrain to occupy. |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 6:32:10 PM EDT
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Little stain wouldn't have needed to fight for his country if his country hadn't started shit. Fuck'im. He didn't deserve a burial at sea. They should've used his carcass as a paint mop to repair the scratch he put in the hull, then chuck his worthless ass in the ocean. |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 6:34:08 PM EDT
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Dude. The guy was a warrior who died in battle trying to close with and kill his enemy. It's not personal. It's just business.Quote HistoryQuoted:
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https://m.blog.hu/le/lemil/photo801.jpg https://m.blog.hu/le/lemil/photo798.jpg Missouri Memorial, Facebook In the pilot's last letter to his mother, he says this: (translated in English) Dear Mom, (April 6, 1945) The time has come for me to blossom at long last. I am fulfilling my final duty with a smile. Please don't say anything; this is for our country. The next time we see each other, we will be under the beautiful cherry blossom trees at Yasukuni Shrine. Please don't cry; only smile and tell me "well done." I will be praying for everyone's good health forever and forever. Please take good care of yourself. I have long prepared for this day. I will strike directly toward an enemy aircraft carrier. Respectfully, Setsuo Dude. The guy was a warrior who died in battle trying to close with and kill his enemy. It's not personal. It's just business. |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 6:37:00 PM EDT
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Conducting warfare in an honorable and organized fashion is one of the strongest pillars holding us above the savages. Its alarming to see how many never learned (or forget) this. That guy was serving his country to the best of his ability just like any of us would do. To be clear - yes, the enemy needs killing - no, we don't need to be assholes about it. The moral high ground is important terrain to occupy.  Burial At Sea of Soviet Submariners from Hughes Glomar Explorer |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 6:37:40 PM EDT
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Conducting warfare in an honorable and organized fashion is one of the strongest pillars holding us above the savages. Its alarming to see how many never learned (or forget) this. That guy was serving his country to the best of his ability just like any of us would do. To be clear - yes, the enemy needs killing - no, we don't need to be assholes about it. The moral high ground is important terrain to occupy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Little stain wouldn't have needed to fight for his country if his country hadn't started shit. Fuck'im. He didn't deserve a burial at sea. They should've used his carcass as a paint mop to repair the scratch he put in the hull, then chuck his worthless ass in the ocean. To be clear - yes, the enemy needs killing - no, we don't need to be assholes about it. The moral high ground is important terrain to occupy. |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 6:39:29 PM EDT
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Crew was lucky they a gun shield with all the little debris that probably caused.
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Posted: 2/28/2020 6:39:43 PM EDT
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He was the enemy. The 9/11 attackers viewed themselves in the same way. He got what he deserved and I'm void of sympathy. |
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Posted: 2/28/2020 6:43:28 PM EDT
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The 9/11 hijackers were terrorist committing an act of terror. This was a Japanese solider fighting for his country. That pilot didn't attack civilians. He attacked an armed target. A valid target. There is zero correlation between the 9/11 hijackers and a solider doing their duty. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He was the enemy. The 9/11 attackers viewed themselves in the same way. He got what he deserved and I'm void of sympathy. |
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