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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:44:23 AM EDT
I don't understand how a fire that was hot enough to burn vehicles in or near the road could leave the tree leaves intact.
The leaves may be dead or dying from the heat, but I would think that the leaves would have burned and left nothing but the limbs if it was hot enough to burn cars. I see the scorched or smoke covered tree trunks. I know that in some areas the fire is mostly underbrush. But to completely burn tires and break all of the glass in cars must require a really hot fire and a fire that lingers in the area a while. Wonder why the truck is upside down? 
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:46:01 AM EDT
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Worked a lot of fires. Sometimes there is no rhyme or reason to what burns and what doesn’t.
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:46:36 AM EDT
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Wonder why the road signs are pristine
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:47:23 AM EDT
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Fire does weird shit
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:47:40 AM EDT
[#4]
upside down? might have been pushed off roadway by emergency vehicles
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:48:29 AM EDT
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God is mad at the people of California not the leaves and signs.
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:49:30 AM EDT
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Several reasons....fire was probably quick moving, types of fuels and surface mass.
Cars will light up much quicker than a solid tree. Tires start to burn and its down hill from there. |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:49:35 AM EDT
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California faked the whole thing for federal funding. The best movie makers in the world live there, ya know?
Or weird shit happens with fires. It's definitely one or the other. |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:49:46 AM EDT
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I've never experienced anything to that magnitude, but evergreens I've seen burn have had the leaves brown but don't really drop the leaves until they're shaken. As for the upside down truck, I read elsewhere they were using heavy equipment to clear blocked roads of abandoned vehicles.
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:50:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:51:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
God is mad at the people of California not the leaves and signs. 
Lets go with this |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:52:43 AM EDT
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Sure hope they cleared them first before moving them.
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:54:00 AM EDT
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Ever tried to burn a log from a freshly cut tree? There's a reason people season their firewood for months before burning it.
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:54:01 AM EDT
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Quoted:
I don't understand how a fire that was hot enough to burn vehicles in or near the road could leave the tree leaves intact. The leaves may be dead or dying from the heat, but I would think that the leaves would have burned and left nothing but the limbs if it was hot enough to burn cars. I see the scorched or smoke covered tree trunks. I know that in some areas the fire is mostly underbrush. But to completely burn tires and break all of the glass in cars must require a really hot fire and a fire that lingers in the area a while. Wonder why the truck is upside down? https://media.breitbart.com/media/2018/11/vv-640x480.png A growing tree will not be dried out and burn. A car will light up in seconds. A house will. Ash and burning debris cyclone around with the wind lighting many things. Trees aren’t flammable until they are very heated, with the bark intact, they don’t dry out. |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:54:03 AM EDT
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The trees were not full of gas and oil and highly flammable materials, metals.
The forest fire burned through faster, caught the vehicle on fire, and it created it's own localized inferno. |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:54:03 AM EDT
[#15]
oops, double tap
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:54:21 AM EDT
[#16]
"Forest" fires are typically the dry brush, leaves, needles, and ground level branches and fallen trees burning and feeding the fires, not the standing living trees. Fire moves through hot and fast, vehicles catch fire pretty easy and burn on their own, standing trees get charred pretty bad and usually die if the fire is intense enough but they don't usually "catch" on fire where they keep burning and burning like a campfire log.
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:54:37 AM EDT
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Some trees hold more moisture than others. I’m guessing the fire came and went through that area too quickly to catch those particular trees on fire.
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:55:12 AM EDT
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The tires popped and the truck flipped due to the inertia.
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:55:20 AM EDT
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oops, double tap |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:55:48 AM EDT
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The fires burn so fast and low to the ground that it doesn’t catch the leaves up high on fire. The key is to have a low fuel content in the ground cover. Where I grew up the trees were all scorched near the ground; but had full canopies.
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:56:10 AM EDT
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God is mad at the people of California not the leaves and signs. |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:56:29 AM EDT
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energy weapons..
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:56:59 AM EDT
[#23]
Spontaneous Truck Combustion.
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:57:22 AM EDT
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Several years ago the lodge for a local ski resort burned down. I was there to watch it happen - it was a very impressive Blaze. And with it being in such a rural area with no fire hydrants, the local fire department had limited resources to actually put the fire out. With nobody inside they decided to basically just let the building go.
My brother was on the ski patrol at the time, so he was able to go back to the building afterwards. And with the entire two story building a smoking and smoldering rubble for days afterwards, it was still very surprising the things that survived the fire. Hotdogs still raw in what used to be the kitchen, cardboard drink coasters from the bar, random things like that, all found in the rubble. -K |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:57:47 AM EDT
[#25]
Well magnets are tricky things
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:58:22 AM EDT
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Ever tried to burn a log from a freshly cut tree? There's a reason people season their firewood for months before burning it. |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:58:25 AM EDT
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Truck pushed out of the way, you can see the spot it burned in behind it with the melted aluminum, and the scuff marks where it was pushed to the current location.
Not sure, but I can see the logic in replacing damaged road safety signage ASAP, especially where many other infrastructure things are gone, like lights, reflective markers etc. Signs are cheap and easy. But all of that is just a guess, and I overall agree that fire does crazy shit, especially high wind driven fires. |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 10:58:32 AM EDT
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energy weapons.. |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 11:02:04 AM EDT
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Yeah, it's weird...and, yeah it happens. You'll come across things that you would swear that someone must have come through afterwards and placed it there to mess with folks. But no, for whatever reason, the plastic turtle the neighbor had would survive unscathed, not a single heat/scorch mark. Everything around it, gone. And, not believing what you're seeing, you pick it up and the ground under where it sat isn't touched, either.
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Posted: 11/13/2018 11:02:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
The trees were not full of gas and oil and highly flammable materials, metals. The forest fire burned through faster, caught the vehicle on fire, and it created it's own localized inferno. I'm guessing the fire was moving so fast it barely touched the trees, signs, etc before it was gone (and the smoke probably inhibited the combustion of the leaves by lack of oxygen), but the fire combusts the gas and then the car keeps burning long after the fire has blown through. |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 11:04:12 AM EDT
[#31]
Check the registration - did the owner used to work for Hillary Clinton?
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Posted: 11/13/2018 11:04:53 AM EDT
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The tires popped and the truck flipped due to the inertia. "Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of science?" 
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Posted: 11/13/2018 11:05:52 AM EDT
[#33]
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Several reasons....fire was probably quick moving, types of fuels and surface mass. Cars will light up much quicker than a solid tree. Tires start to burn and its down hill from there. |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 11:06:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Fire does weird shit 
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Posted: 11/13/2018 11:07:49 AM EDT
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And that truck was pushed out of the way and flipped over. There is no aluminum from the wheels melted onto the chassis or fenders. It burned right side up before getting flipped over by rescue.
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Posted: 11/13/2018 11:09:57 AM EDT
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vehicles have fuel, tired and other hydro carbons, even a small fire and set a vehicle ablaze and is why they can looks ridiculously scorched and the sign in the background is pristine looking.
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Posted: 11/13/2018 11:10:59 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Several reasons....fire was probably quick moving, types of fuels and surface mass. Cars will light up much quicker than a solid tree. Tires start to burn and its down hill from there. |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 11:14:37 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
"Forest" fires are typically the dry brush, leaves, needles, and ground level branches and fallen trees burning and feeding the fires, not the standing living trees. Fire moves through hot and fast, vehicles catch fire pretty easy and burn on their own, standing trees get charred pretty bad and usually die if the fire is intense enough but they don't usually "catch" on fire where they keep burning and burning like a campfire log. Humans build houses in the trees and don't like forest fires so they try to prevent them from happening. Dead crap accumulates. Now when forest fires do happen they have a lot more accumulated dead brush/timber to burn and burn much hotter which can kill live trees. |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 11:14:41 AM EDT
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It's actually Michael Bay's truck and at the first sign of trouble (CEL, TPS light, etc) it exploded and flipped over
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Posted: 11/13/2018 11:15:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Several reasons....fire was probably quick moving, types of fuels and surface mass. Cars will light up much quicker than a solid tree. Tires start to burn and its down hill from there. |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 11:17:05 AM EDT
[#41]
Magnets
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Posted: 11/13/2018 11:18:23 AM EDT
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When I was a kid the neighbor raked his leaves into a pile and burned them. Fire wasn’t out all the way when he left it and it spread through the small wooded lot between our houses. Burned west to east and left the east side of all the trees perfectly intact (leaves and all) but completely annihilated my parents’ van that was parked in our driveway. Fires do weird stuff.
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Posted: 11/13/2018 11:21:06 AM EDT
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Dozzer
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Posted: 11/13/2018 11:25:54 AM EDT
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vehicle was going to fast to make that turn ? during the fire ?
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Posted: 11/13/2018 11:38:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Ever tried to burn a log from a freshly cut tree? There's a reason people season their firewood for |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 11:39:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Ever tried to burn a log from a freshly cut tree? There's a reason people season their firewood for months before burning it. |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 11:40:35 AM EDT
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I don't understand how a fire that was hot enough to burn vehicles in or near the road could leave the tree leaves intact. The leaves may be dead or dying from the heat, but I would think that the leaves would have burned and left nothing but the limbs if it was hot enough to burn cars. I see the scorched or smoke covered tree trunks. I know that in some areas the fire is mostly underbrush. But to completely burn tires and break all of the glass in cars must require a really hot fire and a fire that lingers in the area a while. Wonder why the truck is upside down? https://media.breitbart.com/media/2018/11/vv-640x480.png |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 11:42:46 AM EDT
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I bet there is some sort of filter, albeit it not much, that is making that picture look worse than it is. No explanation for the street sign not being fooked.
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Posted: 11/13/2018 11:43:14 AM EDT
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Who knows. Could have rolled while escaping the fire. Could have been up on the hill and the drivetrain let loose due to fire causing it to run away. Could have been moved by fire equipment, etc etc.
You see some weird stuff on fire scenes. The street sign unharmed is common. There might have been some light flash fuels below it, or non at all, that didn't cause a lot of heat/flames around it. |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 11:45:08 AM EDT
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The tires popped and the truck flipped due to the inertia. |
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