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Posted: 4/20/2016 9:10:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/20/2016 9:12:02 PM EDT by gym007]


Ray Kurzweil, Google's chief futurist, laid out what he thinks the next few decades will look like in an interview with Playboy.

Kurzweil is one of the biggest believers in The Singularity, the moment when humans — with the aid of technology —will supposedly live forever.

He's chosen the year 2045 because, according to his calculations, "The nonbiological intelligence created in that year will reach a level that’s a billion times more powerful than all human intelligence today."

But even before 2045, Kurzweil thinks we could begin the deathless process.

"I believe we will reach a point around 2029 when medical technologies will add one additional year every year to your life expectancy," he told Playboy. "By that I don’t mean life expectancy based on your birthdate, but rather your remaining life expectancy."

A lot will have to happen in the next 30 years to make that a reality, but Kurzweil isn't fazed: He predicts that nano machines capable of taking over for our immune system (to fix problems like cancerous cells and clogged arteries) and connecting our brains to the cloud will be available by then.

He likens that change as the next step in our evolution, the same way our ancestors developed to use the frontal cortex 2 million years ago. The benefits, according to Kurzweil, will be significant.

It's yet to be seen if his plans will pan out, but Kurweil considers dying before the singularity to be a failure on his part, so he's adopted a strict diet with the hope of making it to 2045 and living forever.

More: http://www.businessinsider.com/googles-chief-futurist-thinks-we-could-start-living-forever-by-2029-2016-4
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:11:27 PM EDT
no thanks
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Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:13:19 PM EDT

Oh goody.

I get to be 90 years old forever...somehow I'm not exactly thrilled at the idea.

Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:14:05 PM EDT
The stupidest, most worthless, uneducated, hateful, spiteful, selfish piece of trash humans living forever?

That will lead to the extinction of the entire species.

Imagine welfare, not for 75 years, but 1000.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:15:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GreenBastard:
The stupidest, most worthless, uneducated, hateful, spiteful, selfish piece of trash humans living forever?

That will lead to the extinction of the entire species.

Imagine welfare, not for 75 years, but 1000.
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Maybe it will only be the rich and elite who are able to afford it. Like that movie The Island
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:15:39 PM EDT
Shit....gonna need more ammo.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:15:50 PM EDT
Why would you want to?

I sure as hell don't want to be able to call a 110 year old man a "Damn kid"
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:16:04 PM EDT
if it bleeds, we can kill it.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:16:30 PM EDT
smart guy/dumb shit
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:18:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PNWRN:

Oh goody.

I get to be 90 years old forever...somehow I'm not exactly thrilled at the idea.

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The promises they will make will change your mind.
A new "body" will be offered.
Watch the anime flick called Ghost in the shell. The transhuman/ machine
Goodies will be amazing.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:22:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/20/2016 9:27:33 PM EDT by BisonWorld]
nope, forever is way too long, and doctors told me when I was 10 there would probably be a cure for juvenile diabetes before I could drive. that didn't exactly pan out either...
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:22:40 PM EDT
Imagine the worst dictator this world has ever had, reigning for eternity.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:24:18 PM EDT
With the way political correctness is taking all the fun out of everything, what is the point?
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:26:39 PM EDT
Transcendence meets Elysium.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:28:48 PM EDT
Every king has his reign and the dies.....
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:31:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheRegulator:

The promises they will make will change your mind.
A new "body" will be offered.
Watch the anime flick called Ghost in the shell. The transhuman/ machine
Goodies will be amazing.
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Originally Posted By TheRegulator:
Originally Posted By PNWRN:

Oh goody.

I get to be 90 years old forever...somehow I'm not exactly thrilled at the idea.


The promises they will make will change your mind.
A new "body" will be offered.
Watch the anime flick called Ghost in the shell. The transhuman/ machine
Goodies will be amazing.



Oh, I'm familiar with the concept, just don't think it's going to happen any time soon...meaning my lifetime.

Same thing with fusion energy.

As far as promises...I'm old, bitter and cynical. Guess how much I believe in promises.

Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:35:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TheRegulator:

The promises they will make will change your mind.
A new "body" will be offered.
Watch the anime flick called Ghost in the shell. The transhuman/ machine
Goodies will be amazing.
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Originally Posted By TheRegulator:
Originally Posted By PNWRN:

Oh goody.

I get to be 90 years old forever...somehow I'm not exactly thrilled at the idea.


The promises they will make will change your mind.
A new "body" will be offered.
Watch the anime flick called Ghost in the shell. The transhuman/ machine
Goodies will be amazing.

So we will have families like the Bushes, Clintons, and Obamas ruling humanity for ever.

Normal people will live and die as slaves to what is going to become a transhuman empire.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:35:54 PM EDT
I sure hope my ticket out comes in before this nightmare comes to fruition.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:36:46 PM EDT
Just checked my 403 account.  I can't afford to live half that long.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:37:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BisonWorld:
nope, forever is way too long, and doctors told me when I was 10 there would probably be a cure for juvenile diabetes before I could drive. that didn't exactly pan out either...
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True, but a "effective cure" might be coming in the next couple of years if the human trial pans out on this tech:

http://www.biopharmadive.com/news/jj-viacyte-team-up-on-a-potential-stem-cell-therapy-cure-for-type-1-dia/413687/

I've been thinking about signing up for the trial once they are installing therapeutic doses if the first trial ends well
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:38:57 PM EDT
Human progress would grind to a halt.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:41:05 PM EDT
I'm sure this is for enlightened progressives only.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:42:33 PM EDT
World is already overpopulated.  Don't need people living longer.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:42:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GreenBastard:
The stupidest, most worthless, uneducated, hateful, spiteful, selfish piece of trash humans living forever?

That will lead to the extinction of the entire species.

Imagine welfare, not for 75 years, but 1000.
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It's impossible to project existing trends onto a world in which humans have fucking CONQUERED DEATH.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:43:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DTFD714:
Every king has his reign and the dies.....
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Fuck that.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:44:02 PM EDT

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Human progress would grind to a halt.
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Or we would finally be motivated to move to the stars.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:44:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/20/2016 9:47:46 PM EDT by NorthPolar]
Originally Posted By TheRegulator:
Originally Posted By PNWRN:

Oh goody.

I get to be 90 years old forever...somehow I'm not exactly thrilled at the idea.

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The promises they will make will change your mind.
A new "body" will be offered.
Watch the anime flick called Ghost in the shell. The transhuman/ machine
Goodies will be amazing.
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Damnit.  Got beat.  Great show though.

Japan has already planned for that eventuality.



Or the Canadians.

Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:44:52 PM EDT
C.S. Lewis - The Abolition of Man:

...what we call Man's power over Nature turns out to be a power exercised by some men over other men with Nature as its instrument.
...
At the moment, then, of Man's victory over Nature, we find the whole human race
subjected to some individual men, and those individuals subjected to that in
themselves which is purely natural' — to their irrational impulses. Nature,
untrammelled by values, rules the Conditioners and, through them, all humanity.
Man's conquest of Nature turns out, in the moment of its consummation, to be
Nature's conquest of Man. Every victory we seemed to win has led us, step by
step, to this conclusion. All Nature's apparent reverses have been but tactical
withdrawals. We thought we were beating her back when she was luring us on.
What looked to us like hands held up in surrender was really the opening of arms
to enfold us for ever.
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Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:45:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/20/2016 9:46:33 PM EDT by cyclone]
I don't think Death will ever be conquered the way he envisions................It has already been conquered, but not on this side of the river
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:46:27 PM EDT
Err, don't we kinda need to die? I mean from a medical, specifically neurological /psychology standpoint, not religious or anything. Wouldn't a person eventually go insane?  

Decades and decades of memories piling up. Eventually forgetting things you used to love and cherish. Hell, your perception of time would get all wacky. 20 years ago i thought a year crawled by and it would be forever until i got my drivers license. Now, fuck, shit it feels like Christmas was last week.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:46:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FlyNavy75:
I'm sure this is for enlightened progressives only.
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Only Elite could afford it, middle income in the US and below couldn't afford it.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:48:40 PM EDT
LOL.... We can't even keep people from getting cancer.   I have zero faith in our ability to conquer death.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:50:09 PM EDT
I would suggest that people who don't die are not human.     Couple of ways to go with that...
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:50:22 PM EDT

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Oh goody.



I get to be 90 years old forever...somehow I'm not exactly thrilled at the idea.



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I am with ya bro. I could handle 56 with a few enhancements.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:52:11 PM EDT
This century's arfcom teeners will get to bitch about next century's teeners.

But who wants to live forever anyway?
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:54:34 PM EDT
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I would suggest that people who don't die are not human.     Couple of ways to go with that...
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Considering how medical science is currently redefining what it means to be human, in the next few decades you might get your wish.  

Also, I've never found a thread where my avatar is so appropriate


Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:56:21 PM EDT
By 2062 you'll get a new car! And you'll get a new car! New cars for everyone!
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:57:38 PM EDT
Whatever, sign me up
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:57:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/20/2016 9:58:42 PM EDT by YosemiteBlam]
Kurzweil is great. The Law of Accelerating returns is a good read. I recommend his book "The Singularity is Near" as well. According to him we're in the upward curve of exponential technological growth. Picture the difference between the years 1400 to 1500. Or 1700 to 1800. Not a lot changed. But from 1900 to 2000... Holy crap.   The next 100 years will be equal to around 20,000 years of growth. It's insane to think about.
 
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 10:02:04 PM EDT
Another problem of getting rid of dying by natural causes is that your chances of a violent death go up exponentially.

Death does not like to be cheated.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 10:07:16 PM EDT

nano machines capable of taking over for our immune system
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To Err is Human.  To Really foul things up it takes a Computer.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 10:10:09 PM EDT
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Satan?
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 10:10:38 PM EDT
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Whatever, sign me up
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Link Posted: 4/20/2016 10:10:54 PM EDT
You will die. Accidents will happen to everyone given enough time. Even if you have repair nanites keeping you fit and young, if I put you in a wood chipper they might put your body back together, but wouldn't "you" and your memories be dead?

It would be cool to have them clamp off the arteries to a severed limb like a crocodile can!
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 10:15:39 PM EDT
nope... i want nothing of it...
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 10:16:37 PM EDT
If I can afford it, I'm gonna do it.  I don't believe it will make us truly immortal (there will, after all, be diseases, accidents and crime/war), but if I can pick between dying of buttcrack cancer at the age of 87 or splattering all over the ground in an orbital skydiving accident at the age of 292, I'm picking the second.

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Unless there's cyborg prostitutes.  I'll probably blow all my money on cyborg prostitutes before getting the life extension stuff.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 10:19:17 PM EDT
I don't want to die, but I'm not useful enough to deserve to live forever.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 10:24:03 PM EDT
For some of us... the trick is living to 2029!
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 10:25:36 PM EDT
Our planet isn't built for us living forever.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 10:27:46 PM EDT
Larry Niven poked around some of these concepts wayback.
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