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Posted: 12/12/2014 10:24:51 AM EDT
Over the past few months I have noticed an uptick in foreigners contacting me through the EE and asking if i would ship ITAR items out of the country. Im not sure if its ignorance or if they are just trying to see if they can get around the export restrictions by finding a seller that doesn't know the law. Has anyone noticed this happening more often recently?
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 10:28:40 AM EDT
I was recently asked by a member from the UK to ship him a stripped upper
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 10:38:57 AM EDT
You can't trust those sneaky foreigners.








Please send a complete 14.5" barreled upper to:

swede1986
Borkstreet 123, IKEA Town
Sweden
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 10:43:16 AM EDT
Or feds looking for people to arrest.
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 10:43:16 AM EDT
Or feds looking for people to arrest.
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Originally Posted By swede1986:
You can't trust those sneaky foreigners.








Please send a complete 14.5" barreled upper to:

swede1986
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Sweden
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Meatballs are not an acceptable form of payment Mr.
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 10:58:31 AM EDT
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Meatballs are not an acceptable form of payment Mr.
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Originally Posted By beardog30:
Originally Posted By swede1986:
You can't trust those sneaky foreigners.








Please send a complete 14.5" barreled upper to:

swede1986
Borkstreet 123, IKEA Town
Sweden

Meatballs are not an acceptable form of payment Mr.


I can pay you in iron ore.
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 10:59:58 AM EDT
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Why don't they arrest themselves? Or is Mexico not a foreign country?

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Link Posted: 12/12/2014 11:02:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By swede1986:
You can't trust those sneaky foreigners.








Please send a complete 14.5" barreled upper to:

swede1986
Borkstreet 123, IKEA Town
Sweden
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You just made the list pal.
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 11:03:21 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By swede1986:
You can't trust those sneaky foreigners.








Please send a complete 14.5" barreled upper to:

swede1986
Borkstreet 123, IKEA Town
Sweden
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Link Posted: 12/12/2014 11:03:22 AM EDT
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I can pay you in iron ore.
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Originally Posted By swede1986:
Originally Posted By beardog30:
Originally Posted By swede1986:
You can't trust those sneaky foreigners.








Please send a complete 14.5" barreled upper to:

swede1986
Borkstreet 123, IKEA Town
Sweden

Meatballs are not an acceptable form of payment Mr.


I can pay you in iron ore.


Toss in a few Swedish women and you have a deal. Need pics and stats.
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 11:03:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By swede1986:
You can't trust those sneaky foreigners.








Please send a complete 14.5" barreled upper to:

swede1986
Borkstreet 123, IKEA Town
Sweden
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Why don't you just make one while you're on break at the Volvo plant
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 11:08:01 AM EDT
Is the EE staff doing anything about it?

I know they don't play around if you accidently bump your thread an hour too soon.

Link Posted: 12/12/2014 11:09:28 AM EDT
ITAR, making people look elsewhere for stuff since 1999.
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 11:22:48 AM EDT
With the profusion of idiocy on the internet and the complete maze of contradictory information and laws around the world, it may also be that they really have not even considered such aspects. I've encountered a fair number of people, typically younger, that seem to think anything that can be addressed with a few Google searches and PayPal is good to go.

Your observation may be 100% correct, but I'd look for more specific details. Media, control advocates, LEO, revenuers...looking for something to get offended about are all just as likely.
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 11:23:39 AM EDT
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Why don't they arrest themselves? Or is Mexico not a foreign country?

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Originally Posted By Jax_Guns:
Or feds looking for people to arrest.

Why don't they arrest themselves? Or is Mexico not a foreign country?

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We citizen now!
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 11:25:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By fxntime:


Toss in a few Swedish women and you have a deal. Need pics and stats.
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Originally Posted By fxntime:
Originally Posted By swede1986:
Originally Posted By beardog30:
Originally Posted By swede1986:
You can't trust those sneaky foreigners.








Please send a complete 14.5" barreled upper to:

swede1986
Borkstreet 123, IKEA Town
Sweden

Meatballs are not an acceptable form of payment Mr.


I can pay you in iron ore.


Toss in a few Swedish women and you have a deal. Need pics and stats.


You can have the ugly ones.
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 11:29:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By swede1986:


You can have the ugly ones.
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Originally Posted By fxntime:
Originally Posted By swede1986:
Originally Posted By beardog30:
Originally Posted By swede1986:
You can't trust those sneaky foreigners.








Please send a complete 14.5" barreled upper to:

swede1986
Borkstreet 123, IKEA Town
Sweden

Meatballs are not an acceptable form of payment Mr.


I can pay you in iron ore.


Toss in a few Swedish women and you have a deal. Need pics and stats.


You can have the ugly ones.


You know, a Swedish 2 is like an Oregon 9.
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 11:29:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By pagansmurfen:
ITAR, making people look elsewhere for stuff since 1999.
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Department of commerce prevention. Fuck ITAR. That shit's gotten so far up everybody's ass it's ridiculous.

Sure it's reasonable to say it's bad to sell real secret shit, but Big Brother is claiming control of damn near everything these days.
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 11:29:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By swede1986:
You can't trust those sneaky foreigners.








Please send a complete 14.5" barreled upper to:

swede1986
Borkstreet 123, IKEA Town
Sweden
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Lol. Bork.
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 11:30:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By swede1986:


You can have the ugly ones.
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Originally Posted By swede1986:
Originally Posted By fxntime:
Originally Posted By swede1986:
Originally Posted By beardog30:
Originally Posted By swede1986:
You can't trust those sneaky foreigners.








Please send a complete 14.5" barreled upper to:

swede1986
Borkstreet 123, IKEA Town
Sweden

Meatballs are not an acceptable form of payment Mr.


I can pay you in iron ore.


Toss in a few Swedish women and you have a deal. Need pics and stats.


You can have the ugly ones.


Are there any ugly Swedish women?
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 11:32:23 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 11:33:53 AM EDT
I've been asked the question more than once via my company website too.

A lot of the traditional channels (for the UK) dried up and inside the UK I know of only one AR15 manufacturer who actually holds an import license.

His prices need to be high (ITAR license, export/import license, shipping, duty, VAT and profit) I am seeing an uptick in people trying to get stuff shipped under the radar.

I rarely see anyone outside of the UK (Germany and Sweden are two that have come up) but its mostly the English lot.
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 11:34:19 AM EDT
Funny-sounding, smelly foreigners ruin everything.

No one wants their stupid pastries. Or oil.
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Originally Posted By DragoMuseveni:
Is the EE staff doing anything about it?

I know they don't play around if you accidently bump your thread an hour too soon.

We kick anyone off trying to get almost anything "militaryish" shipped overseas

The issue is that ITAR describes 'anything' with dual use as regulated. So if someone wants a set of plastic handguards shipped overseas, thats an ITAR violation.


Link Posted: 12/12/2014 11:34:46 AM EDT
meanwhile at OP's house



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Bingo.
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 11:37:53 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jacobdw:
meanwhile at OP's house

http://static.infowars.com/bindnfocom/2014/04/atfsting1.jpg

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Never know, this is the email that I got about an Anderson stripped upper, I assume that the member has already been banned.

Link Posted: 12/12/2014 11:40:30 AM EDT
No need to post his contact info. He could be a normal guy.
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Originally Posted By elucidate:
We kick anyone off trying to get almost anything "militaryish" shipped overseas
The issue is that ITAR describes 'anything' with dual use as regulated. So if someone wants a set of plastic handguards shipped overseas, thats an ITAR violation.


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Originally Posted By elucidate:
Originally Posted By Aimless:
Originally Posted By DragoMuseveni:
Is the EE staff doing anything about it?

I know they don't play around if you accidently bump your thread an hour too soon.

We kick anyone off trying to get almost anything "militaryish" shipped overseas
The issue is that ITAR describes 'anything' with dual use as regulated. So if someone wants a set of plastic handguards shipped overseas, thats an ITAR violation.




hell this item right here if shipped out of country is a a violation as well..

Link Posted: 12/12/2014 11:42:23 AM EDT
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Yeah, they usually have Danish ancestry.
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 11:44:53 AM EDT
Some Russian chick won an ebay bid of mine for a Nikon rifle scope once. I tried to ship it. US customs seized it. I had no idea there was an optics restriction between US and Russia. *shrugs*
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 11:47:21 AM EDT
if you see something, say something
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 11:48:42 AM EDT
It gets even better in the sence that I cant even buy stuff in the US that was shipped from Europe to the US

ITAR really hates US industry.
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 11:49:19 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 11:52:42 AM EDT
Just yesterday I received an email asking about a LaRue rail I have on EE. The user was supposedly from France.
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 11:53:34 AM EDT
No comment on ITAR.

Btw. It wasn't me.
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 11:54:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof:


All Swedes have Danish ancestry. They are basically just the insane Danes that we exiled up north to live with the Finns.
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Originally Posted By swede1986:
Originally Posted By fxntime:

Are there any ugly Swedish women?

Yeah, they usually have Danish ancestry.


All Swedes have Danish ancestry. They are basically just the insane Danes that we exiled up north to live with the Finns.

Not quite.

Swedes are Vikings, Danes are Germans who suffer from a speech impediment.

Fact.
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 12:08:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By swede1986:

Not quite.

Swedes are Vikings, Danes are Germans who suffer from a speech impediment.

Fact.
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Originally Posted By swede1986:
Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Originally Posted By swede1986:
Originally Posted By fxntime:

Are there any ugly Swedish women?

Yeah, they usually have Danish ancestry.


All Swedes have Danish ancestry. They are basically just the insane Danes that we exiled up north to live with the Finns.

Not quite.

Swedes are Vikings, Danes are Germans who suffer from a speech impediment.

Fact.


Link Posted: 12/12/2014 12:49:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By swede1986:

Not quite.

Swedes are Vikings, Danes are Germans who suffer from a speech impediment.

Fact.
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Originally Posted By swede1986:
Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Originally Posted By swede1986:
Originally Posted By fxntime:

Are there any ugly Swedish women?

Yeah, they usually have Danish ancestry.


All Swedes have Danish ancestry. They are basically just the insane Danes that we exiled up north to live with the Finns.

Not quite.

Swedes are Vikings, Danes are Germans who suffer from a speech impediment.

Fact.


This quote tree has made me laugh more than it should.
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 12:51:49 PM EDT
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America is giving all our technology, tactics and training to foreign fighters anyway.



They used to not be able to do a jumping jack. Now they have tanks and night vision and kbiw how to use sights. Thanks government.
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 1:04:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By texassooner:
Over the past few months I have noticed an uptick in foreigners contacting me through the EE and asking if i would ship ITAR items out of the country. Im not sure if its ignorance or if they are just trying to see if they can get around the export restrictions by finding a seller that doesn't know the law. Has anyone noticed this happening more often recently?
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Maybe we need a "STICKY at the top of the EE page, explaining just WHAT ITAR IS, and what is permitted, and what isn't......

And, isn't California included too????
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 1:09:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By patchouli:
America is giving all our technology, tactics and training to foreign fighters anyway.



They used to not be able to do a jumping jack. Now they have tanks and night vision and kbiw how to use sights. Thanks government.
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But god forbids you ship an acog to Switzerland
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Originally Posted By swede1986:
Not quite.

Swedes are Vikings, Danes are Germans who suffer from a speech impediment.

Fact.
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Swedes are the unwanted alcoholic cousins of Vikings. Real Vikings (i.e. Norwegians) sailed west for pillage and booty. Swedes went east to get drunk with Russians. Danes just hung out with Germans learning the secrets of oppressing others.
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Fucking foreigners.
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LOL.
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Originally Posted By swede1986:

Not quite.

Swedes are Vikings, Danes are Germans who suffer from a speech impediment.

Fact.
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Originally Posted By swede1986:
Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Originally Posted By swede1986:
Originally Posted By fxntime:

Are there any ugly Swedish women?

Yeah, they usually have Danish ancestry.


All Swedes have Danish ancestry. They are basically just the insane Danes that we exiled up north to live with the Finns.

Not quite.

Swedes are Vikings, Danes are Germans who suffer from a speech impediment.

Fact.

Well, you people all look the same to me.
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 1:41:42 PM EDT
WTT: uppers for suppressors.
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 1:42:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ghetto:
I was recently asked by a member from the UK to ship him a stripped upper
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I honestly didn't realize that a stripped upper would be restricted by ITAR.


That is why I don't ship anything out of the country.
Link Posted: 12/12/2014 1:44:17 PM EDT
I simply state in my ads that I won't ship overseas.
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