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Posted: 6/16/2009 8:01:56 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/16/2009 9:27:55 AM EST by Mannysmate]
I got to pick from Universal,231,power pistol or autocomp........

Loading 230gr (montana) JHP for a xd45 4"

Which powder would YOU go with and WHY??
(range-brass and federal 150 or cci 300)


THANKS!!
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 8:17:44 AM EST
Of those, I have only used 231 and love it. Very consistent, a little sooty though. I only load cast bullets in .45 ACP so that can add to the smoke/soot.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 8:37:59 AM EST
231. I only load cast as well. Usually 200gr SWC over 5.0 gr of 231. Very, very accurate out of my Eclipse. Other 45s like it as well, but was loaded for the 5" Kimber for 50 yard silhouette.

Wes
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 8:49:59 AM EST
Power Pistol for me.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 8:55:33 AM EST
5.0 grains of Bullseye
CCI #300 Large Pistol primer
230 grain FMJ

Done.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 9:49:50 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/16/2009 9:54:18 AM EST by RedFalconBill]
I'd go with Universal or W-231. Other powders work well, but these two are good for the .45 ACP.

W-231 is one of my "never run out of" powders.

I can use it in all of my handguns (9x18, 9x19, .38 Spec., .45 ACP).
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 9:56:30 AM EST
Originally Posted By LUGERMAN:
Power Pistol for me.


This

Rob
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 9:57:41 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/16/2009 9:58:08 AM EST by Jargonhead]
Oooops, damn copy and paste.

5.0 grains of Bullseye
CCI #300 Large Pistol primer
230 grain FMJ

This

Rob
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:05:33 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/16/2009 10:06:20 AM EST by wshbrngr]
You can't go wrong with W-231

It's also one of my "never run out" of powders.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:13:16 AM EST
Right now I'm using Universal Clays and WSF. The WSF meters poorly. The universal is nice but I will try Power Pistol as soon as I can get some.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:39:23 AM EST
I use Titegpoup for over 10 years. Worh great in my 45 1911, 38spl, 9mm, and 32 apc. Great all round powder, for 357 & 44 mag. I use H110. That's IMHO.

Mike
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:38:33 AM EST
+1 on the Bullseye
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:55:25 AM EST
I also use Clays. It meters well and burns clean
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 12:04:03 PM EST
Power pistol will give ya more velocity...which you may want with the JHP's.....the 231 is gonna be milder and will go a long ways (Less powder per charge)

I personally like both and they each have there own purpose.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 12:30:26 PM EST
Originally Posted By J365:
I also use Clays. It meters well and burns clean


+1 4.2gr Clays makes about 750ft/s and is very soft shooting (also makes 172 PF, safely major, in IPSC)
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 12:38:50 PM EST
Originally Posted By Silent_Knight:
Right now I'm using Universal Clays and WSF. The WSF meters poorly. The universal is nice but I will try Power Pistol as soon as I can get some.


WSF is a ball powder, is it not? I'd think it would meter well.

I can't stand powders that don't meter well. Drives me bananas.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 4:06:25 PM EST
Thank you for your input !!!!!!!!!!!! 231 it will be for the first batch. (1k by friday)
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 4:37:34 PM EST
titegroup
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 4:55:12 PM EST
Got about 4000 rounds left from loading with bullseye, prior loads were 5.7 gr 231 with 200gr RNWC. Nice IPSC load.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 5:51:11 PM EST
Originally Posted By Mannysmate:
I got to pick from Universal,231,power pistol or autocomp........

Loading 230gr (montana) JHP for a xd45 4"

Which powder would YOU go with and WHY??
(range-brass and federal 150 or cci 300)


THANKS!!


I would work up loads with all of those powders.

Your pistol will tell you what powder it likes best.

For my 45 ACP reloading I use, Bullseye, Unique, W-231, TiteGroup, Clays, True Blue, Power Pistol, Blue Dot, and WST.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 5:56:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/16/2009 5:59:51 PM EST by wshbrngr]
Originally Posted By Mannysmate:
Thank you for your input !!!!!!!!!!!! 231 it will be for the first batch. (1k by friday)



Don't forget to come back with a range report.
(I will be really surprised if you are unhappy with 231.)

ETA: I hope with loading 1000 rnds, you plan on trying different powder charges to see what load works best for you.

Link Posted: 6/16/2009 6:01:40 PM EST
Titegroup. 4.1 grains if the 231 doesn't work out.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 6:58:53 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/16/2009 7:01:46 PM EST by FishTheRockRiver]
Originally Posted By kcr121:
5.0 grains of Bullseye
CCI #300 Large Pistol primer
230 grain FMJ

Done.



Originally Posted By Jargonhead:

5.0 grains of Bullseye
CCI #300 Large Pistol primer
230 grain FMJ


Originally Posted By jmarthsr:
+1 on the Bullseye


Wow. Popular hardball load...for a reason.

+1 Accurate as sin in my 1911(s) and Sig 220.
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 3:52:59 AM EST
I use Tightgroup. I have used WSF and had no metering problems, WST on the other hand is a different story.

I also use Tightgroup for 9mm and 40 S&W. Its good in all of them so I only have to stock one powder for all my loads.

If only my primers would arrive I could actually load some.
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 5:38:50 AM EST
I've really liked Hodgdon Clays (not International or Universal, just plain Clays) for .45. Very clean burning, meters great for me in my Dillon, and is inexpensive to boot.
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 8:57:18 AM EST
I'm just getting into reloading .45ACP myself. The Hornady manual suggest that VIHT N340 is the best powder for 230 grain XTP/HP bullets (which is what I'm using), so I recently purchased a couple of pounds of this powder.

Why aren't more folks using this? Is it price, or does it not meter as well, or?

Inquiring minds want to know...
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 10:49:52 AM EST
Because of the price. I've been using 5.6gr of WW231 under 200gr LSWC and it makes major in every GI model I've shot them in. Good and accurate. Plus 231's a bunch cheaper than VV powder.
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 11:59:09 AM EST
That's what I thought. I figured, since pistol rounds take so much less powder than rifle, that the cost doesn't really bother me, especially when buying in bulk.
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 2:38:13 PM EST
W231 for the last 20yrs!............
If it works , don't fuck with it!
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 5:45:55 PM EST
I've got to ask why so many are recommending W231. I got 100 rds from a member here in an ammo trade. 5.1 grs of W231 over a Dardas SWC, and that powder is dirty as fuck! It made my Sig nasty! I will never load using that powder as long as I have a choice. My dad's giving me his unused Dillon 550B for my birthday setup for .45 ACP, and I have 3 different Hodgdon powders on their way to start working up loads when I can get some primers in, but I will NEVER use W231 after trying it.
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 6:01:09 PM EST
I,ve used 231 for many many years in 45 ACP and others. Will always have it on hand.
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 6:47:01 PM EST
Keymaster, I don't mean to rain on your Hogdon powder parade but my SIG was dirty with 5 grains 231 also and started singing with 5.5 for a 200gr bullet. About 10k rounds later I started experimenting and at 25 k in my pistol I haven't found much better. I say 231 is good for SIG 45's but it has to be hotter than you are shooting it.
I never have found light loads that are more accurate than hot loads offhand in my SIG 220 with factory recoil spring. I may suck at offhand but my theory is fast bullets require less follow through for accuracy.
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 11:06:33 PM EST
Of the powders you listed I've only used 231. Got good accuracy, but it was a bit dirty.

I switched to Unique awhile ago and haven't looked back.
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 3:46:31 AM EST
Originally Posted By tbonifie:
I'm just getting into reloading .45ACP myself. The Hornady manual suggest that VIHT N340 is the best powder for 230 grain XTP/HP bullets (which is what I'm using), so I recently purchased a couple of pounds of this powder.

Why aren't more folks using this? Is it price, or does it not meter as well, or?

Inquiring minds want to know...


I've used a bunch of N340, mostly for 9mm. I've tried it in .45 and it was great - but I didn't see any advantage over Clays, which is significantly cheaper.

Link Posted: 6/18/2009 6:20:48 AM EST
damn i guess i am the only guy using 700X.....

Not on OP list ..but i love the stuff! Meters well, pushes 200gr. SWC accurate as hell in my Kimber...
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