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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Winchester Super Grade walnut refinish UPDATE 11/8 : Finished

Mossyrocks

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Posted: 8/7/2017 12:14:45 PM EST

[Last Edit: 11/8/2017 4:54:44 PM EST by Mossyrocks]

I picked up a Winchester Super Grade that I really like, but am a bit disappointed in the finish. I found some flaws in the sunlight over the weekend I'm not happy about, so in typical "me" fashion, I'm going to try my hand at refinishing before ordering a walnut from Boyd's.

I prefer not to send the rifle back because to be honest, I have zero faith in most workers to do anything right these days. If they gave a damn it wouldn't be like this in the first place. If you want it done right, you've got to do it yourself...

So why not take the opportunity to try and learn something, it's the kind of project I typically enjoy anyway. And I am experienced at finishing wood trim, so not a total noobie.

I'll bet there's a good looking piece of Walnut under all that shit.

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40xb-shooter: When a man whose eyes are pointing in two different directions says "don't try this at home" I tend to follow that advice.

Mossyrocks Member Joined Feb 2009 Posts 1263 EE Offline TN, USA	Posted: 8/7/2017 12:15:32 PM EST [Last Edit: 8/7/2017 12:17:35 PM EST by Mossyrocks] I ordered the stuff today, so I'll update this as I go. As it sits now. Attached File
	40xb-shooter: When a man whose eyes are pointing in two different directions says "don't try this at home" I tend to follow that advice.

DesignatedMarksman To the everlasting glory of the Infantry! Joined Sep 2005 Posts 5315 EE Offline NC, USA	Posted: 8/7/2017 12:18:59 PM EST [Last Edit: 8/7/2017 12:24:15 PM EST by DesignatedMarksman] World's Best Oil Finish Courtesy of dfariswheel on The High Road I did this on a 67 year old shotgun earlier this year. It's absolutely beautiful and has held up nicely. I'll put some pics up later.
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Mossyrocks Member Joined Feb 2009 Posts 1291 EE Offline TN, USA	Posted: 8/13/2017 1:35:02 PM EST Had a bit of a mishap with stripper on the plastic forend tip, but I think It'll be okay. If all else fails I'll learn how to re-tip a stock. Stripping and scraping. Attached File Halfway through sanding. Attached File Attached File First coat of Pilkington golden brown finish. Attached File
	40xb-shooter: When a man whose eyes are pointing in two different directions says "don't try this at home" I tend to follow that advice.

Mossyrocks Member Joined Feb 2009 Posts 1292 EE Offline TN, USA	Posted: 8/13/2017 1:37:02 PM EST Attached File Attached File
	40xb-shooter: When a man whose eyes are pointing in two different directions says "don't try this at home" I tend to follow that advice.

DesignatedMarksman To the everlasting glory of the Infantry! Joined Sep 2005 Posts 5331 EE Offline NC, USA	Posted: 8/14/2017 6:36:48 AM EST Boy that stock has some nice figure. Looking forward to seeing it finished!
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Mossyrocks Member Joined Feb 2009 Posts 1294 EE Offline TN, USA	Posted: 8/14/2017 6:45:24 AM EST Quote History Originally Posted By DesignatedMarksman: Boy that stock has some nice figure. Looking forward to seeing it finished! View Quote Thanks, that's why I can't understand why there was so much shit on it. They went out of their way to cover it up.
	40xb-shooter: When a man whose eyes are pointing in two different directions says "don't try this at home" I tend to follow that advice.

Mossyrocks Member Joined Feb 2009 Posts 1295 EE Offline TN, USA	Posted: 8/14/2017 6:49:48 AM EST [Last Edit: 8/14/2017 7:27:36 AM EST by Mossyrocks] It had no tackiness late last night so I went ahead and put another coat on. I'm bare hand rubbing it in, mixed 1/3,2/3 finish and mineral spirits. Pretty therapeutic to feel the grain this way, been stressful at work lately. Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File
	40xb-shooter: When a man whose eyes are pointing in two different directions says "don't try this at home" I tend to follow that advice.

JoeMal Joined Feb 2011 Posts 9951 EE Offline USA	Posted: 8/14/2017 6:53:54 AM EST Tagged. The rifle... Not you

Mossyrocks Member Joined Feb 2009 Posts 1299 EE Offline TN, USA	Posted: 8/15/2017 8:40:06 PM EST Quote History Originally Posted By JoeMal: Tagged. The rifle... Not you View Quote Haha, hopefully.
	40xb-shooter: When a man whose eyes are pointing in two different directions says "don't try this at home" I tend to follow that advice.

Mossyrocks Member Joined Feb 2009 Posts 1300 EE Offline TN, USA	Posted: 8/15/2017 8:43:32 PM EST Four coats in, starting to get a slight sheen going and darkening a bit more without hiding the figure. Attached File Attached File
	40xb-shooter: When a man whose eyes are pointing in two different directions says "don't try this at home" I tend to follow that advice.

LastRites Member Joined Mar 2007 Posts 4430 EE Offline FL, USA	Posted: 8/16/2017 6:50:37 AM EST Please keep posting pics, that looks like an exceptional piece of wood!

Mossyrocks Member Joined Feb 2009 Posts 1308 EE Offline TN, USA	Posted: 8/18/2017 5:11:25 PM EST Friday has arrived. More wet sanding with the finish, it's starting to not soak anymore of it in. Attached File Attached File
	40xb-shooter: When a man whose eyes are pointing in two different directions says "don't try this at home" I tend to follow that advice.

Mossyrocks Member Joined Feb 2009 Posts 1309 EE Offline TN, USA	Posted: 8/18/2017 5:26:11 PM EST With flash, I'm on coat 7. Attached File Attached File
	40xb-shooter: When a man whose eyes are pointing in two different directions says "don't try this at home" I tend to follow that advice.

DesignatedMarksman To the everlasting glory of the Infantry! Joined Sep 2005 Posts 5336 EE Offline NC, USA	Posted: 8/22/2017 10:06:19 AM EST Looks fantastic, good job.
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sigman68 Joined Sep 2002 Posts 2366 EE Offline UT, USA	Posted: 8/22/2017 5:31:28 PM EST Looking good!!

jblomenberg16

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Posted: 8/22/2017 5:41:47 PM EST

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Originally Posted By Mossyrocks:
Friday has arrived. More wet sanding with the finish, it's starting to not soak anymore of it in.

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Probably one of the few times you can with a straight face say you are drinking a nice bourbon and hand rubbing oil into your wood.

I hand rubbed some PTO into some of my old M1 Garand stocks and amazing what oil can do to bring out the figure in walnut.

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Mossyrocks

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Posted: 8/22/2017 9:10:13 PM EST

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Originally Posted By jblomenberg16:

Probably one of the few times you can with a straight face say you are drinking a nice bourbon and hand rubbing oil into your wood.

I hand rubbed some PTO into some of my old M1 Garand stocks and amazing what oil can do to bring out the figure in walnut.

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Absolutely, I may have to take it up as hobby. Stock finishing too.

40xb-shooter: When a man whose eyes are pointing in two different directions says "don't try this at home" I tend to follow that advice.

Mossyrocks Member Joined Feb 2009 Posts 1312 EE Offline TN, USA	Posted: 8/22/2017 9:12:00 PM EST Quote History Originally Posted By DesignatedMarksman: Looks fantastic, good job. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quote History Originally Posted By DesignatedMarksman: Looks fantastic, good job. Originally Posted By sigman68: Looking good!! Thanks guys. It's curing glossy at the moment, then I'll sand it back down and oil it.
	40xb-shooter: When a man whose eyes are pointing in two different directions says "don't try this at home" I tend to follow that advice.

Mossyrocks

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Posted: 8/23/2017 9:40:49 PM EST

[Last Edit: 8/23/2017 9:44:37 PM EST by Mossyrocks]

Cured enough for another round of sanding tonight, first 320 grit, then 00 steel wool.

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You can see the cured finish/slurry in the pores and the surface feels like silk.

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First coat of hand rubbed oil, wiped with t-shirt after about 10 minutes.

*If you look closely, you can just make out a glass once full of whiskey, still wet from only moments before...*

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40xb-shooter: When a man whose eyes are pointing in two different directions says "don't try this at home" I tend to follow that advice.

Mossyrocks Member Joined Feb 2009 Posts 1314 EE Offline TN, USA	Posted: 8/23/2017 9:46:54 PM EST Attached File Attached File
	40xb-shooter: When a man whose eyes are pointing in two different directions says "don't try this at home" I tend to follow that advice.

JoeMal Joined Feb 2011 Posts 10028 EE Offline USA	Posted: 8/23/2017 10:17:50 PM EST Looks great OP I might dig through the safe and find a wood piece to redo Do you mind taking a picture showing the entire stock?

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Posted: 8/23/2017 10:22:54 PM EST

[Last Edit: 8/23/2017 10:30:36 PM EST by wingsnthings]

I usually mask off the checkering and finish separately with a thinner oil like fretboard oil to lleave a darker, flatter finish. I've had problems with excess build in the valleys. Also, although it is too late on this one, before applying finish, sand to 400 grit, I blow out the pores and rub in bone black with a paper towel to really bring out the pores. But don't get it into the checkering unless you want black checkering, look at Doug Turnbull's site, in the Winchester gallery.

Eta: looking great for the first time. I wish my first one looked that good.

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Posted: 8/24/2017 4:45:34 AM EST

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Originally Posted By wingsnthings:
I usually mask off the checkering and finish separately with a thinner oil like fretboard oil to lleave a darker, flatter finish. I've had problems with excess build in the valleys. Also, although it is too late on this one, before applying finish, sand to 400 grit, I blow out the pores and rub in bone black with a paper towel to really bring out the pores. But don't get it into the checkering unless you want black checkering, look at Doug Turnbull's site, in the Winchester gallery.

Eta: looking great for the first time. I wish my first one looked that good.

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Sounds great, I'm thinking I'll redo my 10/22 french walnut stock sometime soon. Overall I have 9 coats of finish on if I counted right, but the checkering has 3 that were blotted with the shirt.

40xb-shooter: When a man whose eyes are pointing in two different directions says "don't try this at home" I tend to follow that advice.

Mossyrocks Member Joined Feb 2009 Posts 1316 EE Offline TN, USA	Posted: 8/24/2017 4:46:19 AM EST Quote History Originally Posted By JoeMal: Looks great OP I might dig through the safe and find a wood piece to redo Do you mind taking a picture showing the entire stock? View Quote I'll get one this evening if I don't forget.
	40xb-shooter: When a man whose eyes are pointing in two different directions says "don't try this at home" I tend to follow that advice.

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Posted: 8/27/2017 9:06:16 PM EST

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I'll get one this evening if I don't forget.

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Originally Posted By JoeMal:
Looks great OP I might dig through the safe and find a wood piece to redo

Do you mind taking a picture showing the entire stock?

I'll get one this evening if I don't forget.

Shit, I apologize, went down to work on it and remembered your request.

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40xb-shooter: When a man whose eyes are pointing in two different directions says "don't try this at home" I tend to follow that advice.

Mossyrocks Member Joined Feb 2009 Posts 1318 EE Offline TN, USA	Posted: 8/27/2017 9:07:54 PM EST I polished it with some 600 grit and then rottenstone tonight. Cleaned it up and rubbed in another coat of oil.
	40xb-shooter: When a man whose eyes are pointing in two different directions says "don't try this at home" I tend to follow that advice.

JoeMal Joined Feb 2011 Posts 10053 EE Offline USA	Posted: 8/28/2017 6:06:14 AM EST Looks much nicer than the original. Good job op

Mossyrocks Member Joined Feb 2009 Posts 1399 EE Offline TN, USA	Posted: 11/8/2017 4:51:13 PM EST Finally cured and ready for whitetail.
	40xb-shooter: When a man whose eyes are pointing in two different directions says "don't try this at home" I tend to follow that advice.

thezman Joined Feb 2003 Posts 1957 EE Offline PA, USA	Posted: 11/8/2017 5:23:23 PM EST Outstanding job. Beautiful rifle.

jblomenberg16 Timmy Tacticool Joined Nov 2008 Posts 8296 EE Offline IN, USA	Posted: 11/8/2017 6:43:11 PM EST Bravo!
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friskydingo Joined Jul 2008 Posts 932 EE Offline OR, USA	Posted: 11/8/2017 10:18:21 PM EST Wow, that turned out very nicely. I would be proud to go hunting with a rifle that fine. Something I could pass down to my kids one day.

Willz Hoisting the black flag... Joined Nov 2008 Posts 5215 EE Offline USA	Posted: 11/9/2017 1:38:51 AM EST Beautiful Excellent job
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HKitty Usually armed. Always dangerous. Joined Sep 2017 Posts 631 EE Offline KY, USA	Posted: 11/9/2017 2:51:13 AM EST Wow, OP. Beautiful work!
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DrRemulak Member Joined Nov 2013 Posts 11796 EE Offline PA, USA	Posted: 11/18/2017 11:37:48 PM EST Great work.

Mossyrocks Member Joined Feb 2009 Posts 1408 EE Offline TN, USA	Posted: 11/19/2017 7:29:04 AM EST Thanks guys, I’m certainly happy with the results. Took it out to re-zero it the other day and it only needed one click left.
	40xb-shooter: When a man whose eyes are pointing in two different directions says "don't try this at home" I tend to follow that advice.

MattR Wall Construction Consultant Joined Jul 2011 Posts 2935 EE Offline LA, USA	Posted: 12/2/2017 11:33:15 AM EST That looks great. As a lot of people have done, the AR craze has driven me to fudd guns. I've refinished a few stocks this year and would not mind making a hobby of it. It really is pretty relaxing to work on wood. Its amazing what a little time will do to a stock. Unfortunately, I'm not very patient and that has bitten me a few times.

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