Do those two words have specific defintions in the law?
What makes a curio different from a relic?
Sorry if the question seems stupid but I've never been able to find out the difference.
cu‧ri‧o /ˈkyʊriˌoʊ/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kyoor-ee-oh] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -ri‧os.
any unusual article, object of art, etc., valued as a curiosity.
[Origin: 1850–55; shortened from curiosity]
rel‧ic /ˈrɛlɪk/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[rel-ik] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
1. a surviving memorial of something past.
2. an object having interest by reason of its age or its association with the past: a museum of historic relics.
3. a surviving trace of something: a custom that is a relic of paganism.
a. remaining parts or fragments.
b. the remains of a deceased person.
5. something kept in remembrance; souvenir; memento.
6. Ecclesiastical. (esp. in the Roman Catholic and Greek churches) the body, a part of the body, or some personal memorial of a saint, martyr, or other sacred person, preserved as worthy of veneration.
7. a once widespread linguistic form that survives in a limited area but is otherwise obsolete.
[Origin: 1175–1225; ME < OF relique < L reliquiae (pl.) remains (> OE reliquias), equiv. to reliqu(us) remaining + -iae pl. n. suffix]
Old Guns we want to collect.
Legally, a C&R is any firearm made from 1899 to 1956 that has a historical or academic interest or value. It also needs to be in its original issued condition or final configuration before it was made obsolete.
A 1903 springfield is a C&R, but if you make a bubba hunting rifle from a stripped 1903 receiver, it is not C&R.
ETA: I think the '1956' date is not fixed either, as every year it moves forward as its firearms 50yrs or older are considered C&R.
Curios and relics are guns that are either 50 years old or older, or declared such by the BATF. Most of your old surplus military guns are C&Rs. THere is a special type of federal firearms license which allows collectors to have C&R guns shipped directly to their homes, bypassing local dealers.
If you'll look at the top of this section you'll find a sticky thread called "How to get that C&R." It explains most of what you need to know. Here's a Link
If you want to go straight to the horse's ass' mouth then here's a link to the BATF's C&R page.
Thanks for the difference between curios and relics.
Oh, I see . . .
Curios are curious.
Relics are old . . .
Take a look at the list of weapons qualifying as C&Rs according to the federal government. You'll see some things that are simply old. You'll see other things that are curios.
For example , a v.24 Mauser is old but it's quite common. It is therefore a relic but not a curio.
A Browning Superposed Bi-Centennial Limited Edition shotgun, on the other hand, is probably not 50 years old but it's still on the C&R list because it's been deemed a curio. There's a number of guns like this on the list that were added because somebody petitioned the BATF to have them included.
Curio = Moderator
Relic = Site Staff
It doesn't have to be 50 years old in all cases. If it is 50 or more years old it is C&R.
There are lots of newer guns that are C&R also. That's one of the places where the term curio comes in.
I've got the log book for my Yugo 59/66 SKS. It is stamped 1986. I think the cutoff for these is 1993.
CA is one of the states that requires a C&R to be 50yrs old or more to be sold in private, face to face sales, and for C&R FFL holders to purchase from out of state.
Its not really and issue as most C&R firearms fall within the 50yr requirement, but some of the last produced M1 Garands, SKS, etc... wont be C&R for a couple more years.
Just as a point of interest....
C and R guns can also be operational machine guns. I was surprised when I first received my C and R a few years ago that there are about 2 pages worth of machine guns that can be legally transferred under C and R though you still need your class 3 B.S. In my state, the only machine guns that are legal to own are those that qualify as a curio and relic. Pretty much any significant machine gun from that era is on that list including some of the first American M16 rifles. Pretty cool eh?