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Posted: 3/13/2019 9:54:38 PM EDT
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Korea and part of Vietnam would be my guess.
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Posted: 3/13/2019 9:59:59 PM EDT
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The Balkans.
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Posted: 3/13/2019 10:03:52 PM EDT
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Vietnam and Balkans are all I can think of, everything that happens in Africa
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Posted: 3/14/2019 11:17:15 AM EDT
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Lots of SKS rifles were used in Vietnam by both NVA and VC. There are also plenty of pics out there of SKS rifles being used during the dissolution of Yugoslavia.
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Posted: 3/14/2019 12:49:17 PM EDT
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Since the 1960s, you would be hard pressed to find any war or insurgency that has not used the SKS. It has huge advantages over the AK for an untrained military group. Much less waste of ammo. Yes, it is more difficult to manufacture. However, the Chinese and a half dozen other countries made and exported them in the millions.
I have seen pictures of the AK-mag-adapted SKS in use in Africa. |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 5:15:48 PM EDT
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-Congo Crisis, in small numbers
-Portugal's counterinsurgencies in Guinea Bissau, Angola, and Mozambique -Aden Emergency/Radfan Uprising -Dhofar (Oman) Rebellion -Angolan Civil War -Rhodesian Bush War, although the AK in all its forms was far more prevalent. -South African Border War The Algerian War is notable in that the SKS- while in existence in ample numbers at the time, and being exported elsewhere- was not used at all simply due to Moscow's reluctance to directly assist the FLN/ALN. |
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Posted: 3/15/2019 4:26:45 PM EDT
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Lots of SKS rifles were used in Vietnam by both NVA and VC. There are also plenty of pics out there of SKS rifles being used during the dissolution of Yugoslavia. In the early 1980s, the only SKS I saw (outside of the old Aberdeen Proving ground museum) were Bring-backs from Vietnam. At that time, ammo in the USA was virtually nonexistant. I know the VC used any and every gun they could get - including left over Jap guns from WW 2, French guns, Mosins, etc. But rumor was they considered the SKS more accurate than the AK and tried to deploy it more as a DMR or even expedient sniper gun when a Mosin with a PU scope wasn't available. |
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Posted: 3/15/2019 4:34:16 PM EDT
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my friend was in vietnam and said he was shot at and found more SKS, Mosins, and PPSH 41s than AKs.
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Posted: 3/15/2019 5:01:10 PM EDT
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Six Day War
Egypt had a boatload of them along with Rasheed Carbines and AKs. |
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Posted: 3/15/2019 5:24:40 PM EDT
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The SKS saw conflict all over the globe. In Grenada, the USSR supplied them with a boatload of arms. The SKS was in the mix.
Egypt was a major user of the SKS. Angola, Mozambique, Rhodesia, Uganda, Zaire/Congo, Ethiopia, Eritrea, and Somalia for just Africa. Ghe Balkans for sure. Albania and Yugoslavia made them by the boatloads and the PRC passed them out like candy to the Albanians. Vietnam of course. Both against the US and the Chinese later in the 1979 war. Also the Sino-Soviet Border Clashes. |
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Posted: 3/15/2019 8:36:27 PM EDT
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Awesome info thanks guys. I just purchased a chinese sks. I was curious as to its history.
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Posted: 3/16/2019 5:31:44 AM EDT
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CD |
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Posted: 4/4/2019 9:39:13 PM EDT
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Started with troop trials during the Battle of Berlin in Apr-May 1945 and every major conflict since. Found here in Astan last year a Chinese M21 SKS. These were reportedly made for the North Viet Nam armies during our involvement there. CD |
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Posted: 4/5/2019 12:11:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Funny you should bring up its fielding during WWII. Most folks don't realize that fun fact. I believe it was the Byelorussian Front where is was first fielded. Another fun fact is that the RPD was fielded before the SKS. CD |
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Posted: 5/14/2019 11:58:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The 7.62x39mm M43 first came out in 1943. You are correct on the RPD being produced during 44-45' war years. The RPD using the flapper locking system from the DP28 series of light machine guns. The German 7.92x33mm designed prior to WWII and first used in production of the Mk42 carbines in 42'. This would later be fully developed into the STG44 series. CD SKS rifles were fielded by the Chinese PLA during their war with Vietnam and performed so poorly it led to their demise in the PLA. |
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Posted: 5/15/2019 9:07:59 AM EDT
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Fall of Phnom Penh
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Posted: 5/15/2019 10:26:18 PM EDT
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Are there any pics out there of any Russians using the SKS in WW2? I've heard it was but have never seen a photo.
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Posted: 5/15/2019 10:42:04 PM EDT
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I'd defiantely say VN, especially when the French were there.
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Posted: 5/15/2019 10:47:15 PM EDT
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Dad said they were all over Vietnam. He tried to bring one back but another GI stole it from him on the return trip.
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Posted: 5/16/2019 1:53:39 AM EDT
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Are there any pics out there of any Russians using the SKS in WW2? I've heard it was but have never seen a photo. https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=223231 https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/08/13/sks-31-the-7-62x54mmr-predecessor-of-the-7-62x39mm-sks/ |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 4:26:09 AM EDT
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Apparently it was just 37 units of the SKS-31 (chambered in 7.62x54r) for testing & evaluation. https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=223231 https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/08/13/sks-31-the-7-62x54mmr-predecessor-of-the-7-62x39mm-sks/ CD |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 9:20:26 AM EDT
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I'd defiantely say VN, especially when the French were there. The Viet Minh had a hodgepodge of WWII arms - Mausers and Arisakas mostly, with some captured French and US arms (MAS-36, M1 Carbine, etc.) |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 10:08:51 AM EDT
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The Viet Minh had a hodgepodge of WWII arms - Mausers and Arisakas mostly, with some captured French and US arms (MAS-36, M1 Carbine, etc.) Here's a Viet Cong with a captured No. 1 Mk. V SMLE, with the two others using a Soviet Mosin-Nagant M44 (or Chinese Type 53 clone) and a US M1A1 Carbine (likely captured from the French, who had used them extensively during their Indochina War):  The Viet Minh/Cong also used German K98ks, which were provided by the Russians, along with smaller numbers of MG34s, MG42s, Stg 44s, FG42s, MP40s, and even some PAK 40 anti-tank guns. 
Weapons found in a Vietcong cache, including many K98ks, a couple BARs, a few Bren Guns or ZB-26s, and a hodgepodge of others:  The Viet Minh/Cong also used US M1917 Enfields. They got them from the Chinese, to whom large numbers of M1917s had been provided by the US during WW2. 
Australian soldiers examining captured Vietcong rifles, including a M1917 and a K98k: 
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Posted: 5/16/2019 10:24:20 AM EDT
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Vietnamese always seem to have AKs in the movies, but my old man always said he saw mostly SKS over there, along with random other stuff.
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Posted: 5/16/2019 10:30:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They even had some captured British arms, since the British occupied Indochina at the end of WW2, until France could retake control in mid-1946. The British and Indian troops there fought against Viet Minh for that year or so between 1945 and 1946, losing 40 KIA and many more wounded. Here's a Viet Minh/Cong with a captured No. 1 Mk. III SMLE: https://www.milsurps.com/images/imported/2011/03/367893087-1.jpg The Viet Minh/Cong also used German K98ks, which were provided by the Russians, along with smaller numbers of MG34s, MG42s, Stg 44s, FG42s, MP40s, and even some PAK 40 anti-tank guns. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SvReONFWOiU/VHM24_dWabI/AAAAAAACAdw/KvgdPSgvEhs/s1600/33%2B-%2BbtSL6zt.jpg Weapons found in a Vietcong cache, including many K98ks, a couple BARs, a few Bren Guns or ZB-26s, and a hodgepodge of others: https://wwiiafterwwii.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/98kcaptures.jpg The Viet Minh/Cong also used US M1917 Enfields. They got them from the Chinese, to whom large numbers of M1917s had been provided by the US during WW2. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/uploads//monthly_12_2011/post-56764-1323972169.jpg Australian soldiers examining captured Vietcong rifles, including a M1917 and a K98k: https://s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/awm-media/collection/CAM/67/0413/VN/screen/4131472.JPG The French were given a bunch of M1917s as well, which they pawned off on indigenous Viet units; another route by which the VM/VC got them. |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 10:37:06 AM EDT
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Vietnamese always seem to have AKs in the movies, but my old man always said he saw mostly SKS over there, along with random other stuff. |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 10:40:36 AM EDT
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Look closer at that SMLE. It's not a Mk. III. It's a Mk. V trials rifle! 
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Posted: 5/16/2019 10:47:19 AM EDT
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My preferred commie weapon.
Txl |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 12:16:02 PM EDT
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the 7.62x41mm first came out in 1943....it was modified into the x39 later. SKS rifles were fielded by the Chinese PLA during their war with Vietnam and performed so poorly it led to their demise in the PLA. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: The 7.62x39mm M43 first came out in 1943. You are correct on the RPD being produced during 44-45' war years. The RPD using the flapper locking system from the DP28 series of light machine guns. The German 7.92x33mm designed prior to WWII and first used in production of the Mk42 carbines in 42'. This would later be fully developed into the STG44 series. CD SKS rifles were fielded by the Chinese PLA during their war with Vietnam and performed so poorly it led to their demise in the PLA. 
That was the Primary Infantry Rifle to my knowledge, not the Type 56. |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 12:20:22 PM EDT
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The Type 63 also isn't a SKS
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Posted: 5/16/2019 1:08:05 PM EDT
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M21 SKS made by China during the VietNam war for North Vietnam. Captured in Afghanistan in 2017.
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Posted: 5/16/2019 3:10:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. The Viets didn't get the SKS until the French had left. Remember that the Chinese didn't even start making them until 1956. The Viet Minh had a hodgepodge of WWII arms - Mausers and Arisakas mostly, with some captured French and US arms (MAS-36, M1 Carbine, etc.) |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 4:12:55 PM EDT
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Depends on the time period when he served. Earlier in the war, SKSs and captured WW2-era arms were common, whereas later in the war AKs were more common. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Vietnamese always seem to have AKs in the movies, but my old man always said he saw mostly SKS over there, along with random other stuff. |
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Posted: 5/17/2019 4:59:16 PM EDT
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This is a cool thread. Nice m21.
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Posted: 5/21/2019 4:08:52 PM EDT
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Lots of SKS rifles were used in Vietnam by both NVA and VC. There are also plenty of pics out there of SKS rifles being used during the dissolution of Yugoslavia. |
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Posted: 5/21/2019 4:28:11 PM EDT
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PLO and PFLP in Southern Lebanon. Operation Peace for Palilee time frame - early 1980's.
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Posted: 5/21/2019 4:35:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
They even had some captured British arms, since the British occupied Indochina at the end of WW2, until France could retake control in mid-1946. The British and Indian troops there fought against Viet Minh for that year or so between 1945 and 1946, losing 40 KIA and many more wounded. Here's a Viet Cong with a captured No. 1 Mk. V SMLE, with the two others using a Soviet Mosin-Nagant M44 (or Chinese Type 53 clone) and a US M1A1 Carbine (likely captured from the French, who had used them extensively during their Indochina War): https://i.redd.it/0118zrtz7cz11.jpg The Viet Minh/Cong also used German K98ks, which were provided by the Russians, along with smaller numbers of MG34s, MG42s, Stg 44s, FG42s, MP40s, and even some PAK 40 anti-tank guns. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SvReONFWOiU/VHM24_dWabI/AAAAAAACAdw/KvgdPSgvEhs/s1600/33%2B-%2BbtSL6zt.jpg Weapons found in a Vietcong cache, including many K98ks, a couple BARs, a few Bren Guns or ZB-26s, and a hodgepodge of others: https://wwiiafterwwii.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/98kcaptures.jpg The Viet Minh/Cong also used US M1917 Enfields. They got them from the Chinese, to whom large numbers of M1917s had been provided by the US during WW2. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/uploads//monthly_12_2011/post-56764-1323972169.jpg Australian soldiers examining captured Vietcong rifles, including a M1917 and a K98k: https://s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/awm-media/collection/CAM/67/0413/VN/screen/4131472.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Viet Minh had a hodgepodge of WWII arms - Mausers and Arisakas mostly, with some captured French and US arms (MAS-36, M1 Carbine, etc.) Here's a Viet Cong with a captured No. 1 Mk. V SMLE, with the two others using a Soviet Mosin-Nagant M44 (or Chinese Type 53 clone) and a US M1A1 Carbine (likely captured from the French, who had used them extensively during their Indochina War): https://i.redd.it/0118zrtz7cz11.jpg The Viet Minh/Cong also used German K98ks, which were provided by the Russians, along with smaller numbers of MG34s, MG42s, Stg 44s, FG42s, MP40s, and even some PAK 40 anti-tank guns. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SvReONFWOiU/VHM24_dWabI/AAAAAAACAdw/KvgdPSgvEhs/s1600/33%2B-%2BbtSL6zt.jpg Weapons found in a Vietcong cache, including many K98ks, a couple BARs, a few Bren Guns or ZB-26s, and a hodgepodge of others: https://wwiiafterwwii.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/98kcaptures.jpg The Viet Minh/Cong also used US M1917 Enfields. They got them from the Chinese, to whom large numbers of M1917s had been provided by the US during WW2. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/uploads//monthly_12_2011/post-56764-1323972169.jpg Australian soldiers examining captured Vietcong rifles, including a M1917 and a K98k: https://s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/awm-media/collection/CAM/67/0413/VN/screen/4131472.JPG |
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