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4/14/2014 1:18:27 PM EDT




As the only, sole, unique, owner of a legal, declared, registered suppressor in Italy.



It ain't much, I know. But still, I've run after this dream for almost two years. And to me, it looks awesome.

4/14/2014 2:17:35 PM EDT
[#1]
congrats.  Just curious, what do you have to do to own a can in Italy ?
4/14/2014 2:18:55 PM EDT
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4/14/2014 4:11:43 PM EDT
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^what they said.

And congrats!
4/14/2014 4:15:19 PM EDT
[#4]
+1



F yeah!  That's awesome.  Are you sure you're the only one?
4/14/2014 11:03:45 PM EDT
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Congratulations, paisano! I have been reading your posts about the pursuit of your dream with great interest for what? 2 years, now? I know you have had to jump through hoops, and educate your policia and politicians all along the way.

I'm truly happy for you to have attained your goal. Well done!
4/15/2014 2:26:08 AM EDT
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Okay, to make a long story short, I'm not totally the only one.

there's just one other guy, another private gun enthusiast like me that has some.

And  he's the one I bought my SD22 from.



The story goes that suppressors have always been legal. that is to say, no law directly made them unlawful to own.

But common misconception (just like in the US, do you remember Silencerco's "silencers are legal" campaign? )

and an array of military rulings made Italians believe that suppressors were indeed a military item in and of itself,

just like 9x19 ammo, or NATO Stamped ammunition, GENIII NV and other minor stuff.



Then came an EU ruling, that stated that suppressors are indeed a firearm part - just like barrels, slides or receivers.

It was good for Italians since we finally had it black on white - they were a legal part to own and register,

provided it was built by a licensed mfg, distributed by licensed individualls and registered as anything else we own.



It was rather bad for France though, that had suppressors for sale over the counter, no paperwork involved until then.

Not many Italian aficionados took advantage of the new law, especially none of the big name gun dealers/distributors/importers.

They had a license to risk.

Though me and another guy actually upheld the new law and tried importing suppressors. Me from France, he from Germany.



I was denied out of sheer ignorance of the new law, while he was granted import license for 10 or so suppressors,

and he's now starting to sell them to private individuals.



The drawback? we made it just in time.

Our Ministry of Interior does like suppressor so much, that as soon as it became obvious that suppressors were legal

issued a modification to the law ( Decreto Legislativo - Correttivo D.L. 204 /2010 ) that made them outright illegal to import and distribute

for the first time in history.

The law took effect on November 10, 2013. Every suppressor legally imported, distributed and privately registered is legal,

but just like machineguns in the US, no new suppressors will be available for sale.

By all intents and purposes, my suppressor is just one of ten  "pre-ban, transferrable" ones in the Country.


4/15/2014 2:27:02 AM EDT
[#7]
Thans everyone for their warm congratulations!

Now, let's go find a wrench to open this bitch and see what's inside.
4/15/2014 4:03:30 AM EDT
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Or maybe you should put it in a safe place, dont touch it for 15 years, sell it, and buy a villa on Lake Como.
4/15/2014 4:39:19 AM EDT
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Thans everyone for their warm congratulations!

Now, let's go find a wrench to open this bitch and see what's inside.




Or maybe you should put it in a safe place, dont touch it for 15 years, sell it, and buy a villa on Lake Como.
Eh. I thought about it too. Who wouldn't?





 
4/15/2014 5:49:16 AM EDT
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2 years and PITA government bullshit to deal with, huh?

sounds like our system...

4/15/2014 5:57:29 AM EDT
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What does the insides (baffles) look like?  How much does a Walter marked can go for?
4/15/2014 8:17:12 AM EDT
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Holy cow
4/15/2014 9:21:29 AM EDT
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Nobody knows.



Nobody has ever seen the insides ofa SD22.



The SD22 is a sealed 22lr suppressor. Dumb as hell, still I plan on working on it:



Even the stupidest gunsmith can open it, and I will hopefully find someone capable enough to make some proper baffles for it.



As of now, Walther rates it as a 20dB suppression unit.






Consider this suppressor for what it is: a cheap unit made by B&T years ago and rebranded by Walther


to be sold in kit with P22 pistols.


Even the threads on the endcap aren't standard 1/2,


they're proprietary 1xsomething and will only work with the attached adapter.





It was to be sold at no more than €90 where legal.
 
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