Warning

 

Close
Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Cancel Confirm
AR15.COM
Armory Sponsor
11/3/2013 3:26:30 PM EDT
I am  saving up to get a 7.62 can and am looking at what is available and I noticed that there are some interesting and innovative (at least in appearance if not function) options out there.

I also noticed that the two that are on top of my list, AAC and SureFire, are not user serviceable.

I would venture to guess that they are such because those companies are marketing to M&P who would not want something that even can be serviced as they would not want additional workload for their armorers and would not want their users to fiddle with things and fug them up. (just my best guess)

Does anyone know why these companies have gone with their design and not a User Serviceable design?

Would User Serviceable be a primary requirement to those here who own or are thinking of owning in the future?
11/3/2013 4:20:59 PM EDT
[#1]
Quoted:
I am  saving up to get a 7.62 can and am looking at what is available and I noticed that there are some interesting and innovative (at least in appearance if not function) options out there.

I also noticed that the two that are on top of my list, AAC and SureFire, are not user serviceable.

I would venture to guess that they are such because those companies are marketing to M&P who would not want something that even can be serviced as they would not want additional workload for their armorers and would not want their users to fiddle with things and fug them up. (just my best guess)

Does anyone know why these companies have gone with their design and not a User Serviceable design?

Would User Serviceable be a primary requirement to those here who own or are thinking of owning in the future?
View Quote


It is a non-issue for full jacketed rifle rounds, there is nothing to "service".  If you are going to shoot a lot of cast lead reloads, it becomes a bigger issue.
11/3/2013 6:28:16 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote History
Quoted:


It is a non-issue for full jacketed rifle rounds, there is nothing to "service".  If you are going to shoot a lot of cast lead reloads, it becomes a bigger issue.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
I am  saving up to get a 7.62 can and am looking at what is available and I noticed that there are some interesting and innovative (at least in appearance if not function) options out there.

I also noticed that the two that are on top of my list, AAC and SureFire, are not user serviceable.

I would venture to guess that they are such because those companies are marketing to M&P who would not want something that even can be serviced as they would not want additional workload for their armorers and would not want their users to fiddle with things and fug them up. (just my best guess)

Does anyone know why these companies have gone with their design and not a User Serviceable design?

Would User Serviceable be a primary requirement to those here who own or are thinking of owning in the future?


It is a non-issue for full jacketed rifle rounds, there is nothing to "service".  If you are going to shoot a lot of cast lead reloads, it becomes a bigger issue.

^This, Or if you were going to shoot .22 through it. Otherwise not really necessary.
11/3/2013 7:00:33 PM EDT
[#3]
With rifle cans it'd be the equivalent of servicing your cars muffler. Sure it gets carbon deposits, but cleaning it is a non issue as the buildup is minimial and won't get bad enough to cause problems.
11/3/2013 7:13:03 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Does anyone know why these companies have gone with their design and not a User Serviceable design?
View Quote


Because it is entirely unnecessary for rifle suppressors and, additionally, would either sacrifice the strength required to withstand te high pressures of a full power center fire rifle load or inordinately increase the weight.
11/3/2013 8:39:45 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:


Would User Serviceable be a primary requirement to those here who own or are thinking of owning in the future?
View Quote


The most popular 30 cal cans are the SDN6, Phantom, and Surefire. Guess how many of them are user serviceable.
11/4/2013 5:33:52 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote History
Quoted:


Because it is entirely unnecessary for rifle suppressors and, additionally, would either sacrifice the strength required to withstand te high pressures of a full power center fire rifle load or inordinately increase the weight.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Does anyone know why these companies have gone with their design and not a User Serviceable design?


Because it is entirely unnecessary for rifle suppressors and, additionally, would either sacrifice the strength required to withstand te high pressures of a full power center fire rifle load or inordinately increase the weight.



x2

To make a takeapart can that can hold up as well as the best welded designs would sacrifice weight or durability or both.
11/4/2013 5:43:36 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote History
Quoted:



x2

To make a takeapart can that can hold up as well as the best welded designs would sacrifice weight or durability or both.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Does anyone know why these companies have gone with their design and not a User Serviceable design?


Because it is entirely unnecessary for rifle suppressors and, additionally, would either sacrifice the strength required to withstand te high pressures of a full power center fire rifle load or inordinately increase the weight.



x2

To make a takeapart can that can hold up as well as the best welded designs would sacrifice weight or durability or both.


I know what you were trying to say, but I think you just said that to make a durable can you sacrifice durability.
11/4/2013 6:06:06 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote History
Quoted:


I know what you were trying to say, but I think you just said that to make a durable can you sacrifice durability.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Does anyone know why these companies have gone with their design and not a User Serviceable design?


Because it is entirely unnecessary for rifle suppressors and, additionally, would either sacrifice the strength required to withstand te high pressures of a full power center fire rifle load or inordinately increase the weight.



x2

To make a takeapart can that can hold up as well as the best welded designs would sacrifice weight or durability or both.


I know what you were trying to say, but I think you just said that to make a durable can you sacrifice durability.


I can see how it may read like that.

Meant to say that long-term durability or what abuse the can is rated for would suffer as materials/thicknesses would be chosen to get the weight down at the cost of how much you can put through it.
11/4/2013 6:18:20 AM EDT
[#9]
user serviceable is overrated.   for the cans that take apart, I have to clean them all the time to ensure they don't get locked up.  I much more like the sealed cans, fire and forget I say...

Just to deal with the upgrades on my Octane to ensure it can be user cleaned, I will have sent it back to the mfg. twice in less than two years.  I could just have sent my can for cleaning every 5 years and I still wouldn't have had to return it yet.
Armory Sponsor