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Posted: 2/14/2002 4:36:27 AM EDT
For three days i have watched this "drama unfold", & it makes me sick.....!!!!!!!!!!!

the man was an obesssive gun collector & collector of Military items, he also held a class III FFL, most were inert, the friggen cops were afraid to go thru the doors, so they chopped holes in the roof of the house !!!

on TV they showed many rifles still in boxes, most that were showed were WWII vintage bolt action, cases of ammo.....

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RISK DEFUSED, RESIDENTS RETURN HOME by Craig Smith (2/13/02)

Craig Smith

Residents near 24th and Randolph have been evacuated since police found a house full of weapons and explosives Monday.

Police evacuated the neighborhood south of Reid Park while bomb experts cleared out a house full of guns and explosives.

On Monday police gave residents just a few minutes to grab essentials and clear out, after officers went to check on a man who was having medical trouble, and discovered a house full of munitions....

Police gave residents fifteen minutes to pack as officers closed streets and evacuated houses while bomb experts cleared out a house so full of guns and gunpowder that officers say they had trouble moving through the house.

"This was a very very serious scene,” says TPD Bomb Squad Capt. Clay Kidd “I cannot state that enough."

Officers found booby traps designed to release tear gas and they say if set off, the gas grenades could have gotten hot enough to start fires and set off the explosives inside.

Dale Eroh, the home owner, was in the hospital, gravely ill but well enough to warn police they could find even more dangerous traps.

Capt Kidd says Eroh told officers, "that there was potentially a land mine at his house and that the land mine was armed."

Police found more than 120 pounds of gunpowder in the house. It's against the law to have more than one pound on hand.

They say they even found anti aircraft rounds able to bring down one of the planes that often fly over the neighborhood on the way to the Air Force Base.

As night fell, Bennie Cruz was doing his neighbor a favor covering the hole police cut in Eroh’s roof so they could enter the house without tripping a booby trap.

"He's my neighbor and he's my friend,” says Cruz, “and I’m the only contact he's had with his family in the neighborhood."

Other neighbors seemed more surprised than angry at Dale Eroh. Police say he could be in for state and federal charges but they're delaying formal charges until his health improves.
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the conclusion to this story, is IF you are a long tyme collector, DO NOT get seriously sick or have a stroke !! this man was found on his front porch Monday, naked & unconscious, someone called paramedics, they went into the house to...., allegedly, "...get a blanket...", thats when one of the LIBERAL medics paniced & called in the cops, hazmat, bomb disposal & the military !!! the AF base closed the normal air traffic in the area because "...he had weapons & ammunition that could bring down a fighter jet..."

as i have said before this whole story sickens me to no end, the mans lyfe...., if he recovers !! is basicly ruined !! i have met & talked to this fellow at the Tucson Gun Shows, he has been collecting for over 50 years !!!!!!!!


Link Posted: 2/14/2002 5:58:19 AM EDT

It's against the law to have more than one pound on hand.

Say what? I buy powder in eight-pound lots. So what's surprising about this story, as sickening as it is? If anyone hears "gun" nowadays, it is time to throw a giant tizzy and evacuate the entire town. Then throw in the media hoopla implying this guy was ready to shoot down an airplane . . the horror . . . the horror . . . I am surprised they just chopped a hole in his roof and didn't burn his house down on the spot.

Link Posted: 2/14/2002 6:19:28 AM EDT
First, let me preface that I live here in the east in one of the most Socialist States in the union (Maryland). My fellow gun owners and myself look at Arizona as one of the last great hold outs of indidvidual rights. Sorta of like the "Old West".

Now this is what I find distrubing. It seems that Arizona, in recent times, has had allot of anti gun activity, i.e. arrest. The most glaring is the Stewart case. I can see this type of harrassment being forced on us Sheeple here in the east, but Arizona! Man I figured Arizonians would not stand for such oppression, but perhaps I am suffering from delusions. It seems Sheeple rein supreme everywhere. Very sad.
Link Posted: 2/14/2002 6:56:16 AM EDT
Okay, while Arizona itself IS very gun friendly, the larger cities are being flooded with hoplophobic assholes who are just there because their company transferred them.. Parts of the Phoenix-metro area are disparingly called "L.A's eastern district"..

Another consideration is that news reporting in Arizona is awful at best. From just bad, to pure fiction is the norm.. "One Pound of gunpowder"!? Bullshit. Either a misquote, a fabrication or a rookie transfer cop wanting to play Wyatt Earp..(Oh, and gunpowder BURNS in a home fire, it dose'nt explode. Same with MOST explosives.)
"Able to bring down a plane"?! Whoop de shit. A well placed shot with a .22 LR will produce similar effects. What ever happened to the concept of "Intent to commit a crime"? Guess it goes bye bye if some jackass overreacts.

No, I've heard NOTHING of this. (NO TV in my home.) But it reeks of typical anti gun bullshit that frequently is heard, even in Arizona.

Meplat-

Link Posted: 2/14/2002 9:13:56 AM EDT
yeah i saw this BS on the local news

also they kept saying how everything was legal!!!

god damn if its legal why the fuck u stealing err removing it!

anyway i say we sue the city/state/feds on behalf of this guy
Link Posted: 2/14/2002 9:22:02 AM EDT

if set off, the gas grenades could have gotten hot enough to start fires

OK, so a private citizen possesses a gas grenade, and it can start a fire. When the ATF uses a gas grenade, they're left wondering why it started a fire. Maybe, I'm just old and cynical, but every day I become more (excuse the language) pissed-off.z
Link Posted: 2/14/2002 5:45:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By zoom:

if set off, the gas grenades could have gotten hot enough to start fires

OK, so a private citizen possesses a gas grenade, and it can start a fire. When the ATF uses a gas grenade, they're left wondering why it started a fire. Maybe, I'm just old and cynical, but every day I become more (excuse the language) pissed-off.z



You don't have to be old to be bitter but it helps.

Link Posted: 2/15/2002 1:07:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By zoom:

if set off, the gas grenades could have gotten hot enough to start fires

OK, so a private citizen possesses a gas grenade, and it can start a fire. When the ATF uses a gas grenade, they're left wondering why it started a fire. Maybe, I'm just old and cynical, but every day I become more (excuse the language) pissed-off.z



Actually, it is impossible for the grenades to start fires. Janet Reno said so!

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