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Posted: 7/12/2020 1:09:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP glad you like the specs and as you can see not tons of blems, no ultra low unusable specs and YES these are ALL autogated tubes. And finally YES they come with a data sheet with all the standard accessories. Orders still pouring in for these systems and a lot of happy customers for the price. Enjoy and thanks for all the business!  Thanks again! Been putting this off for the better part of a decade. Next sale needs to be some dovetail accessories though. This J arm bullshit is whack |
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Posted: 7/12/2020 8:00:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So it's either a $120 Rhino II and included J-arm that wobbles and can fall off or a $450 g24 and $200 j-arm for a tight fit. NV is expensive. Or a new Rhino II from eBay for $80, a dovetail socket for the rhino II from TNVC and a Norotos dual dovetail for $150. All for less than the cost of a G24. |
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Posted: 7/12/2020 8:32:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Or a new Rhino II from eBay for $80, a dovetail socket for the rhino II from TNVC and a Norotos dual dovetail for $150. All for less than the cost of a G24. @Synyster06Gates Awesome info, thanks! The only dovetail socket I see at TNVC is a Norotos, and it says it's only for an Norotos AKA2 mount? Is that the correct part? And the Rhino II on ebay in titanium is the right one? It's all so confusing.. 
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Posted: 7/12/2020 8:58:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Synyster06Gates Awesome info, thanks! The only dovetail socket I see at TNVC is a Norotos, and it says it's only for an Norotos AKA2 mount? Is that the correct part? And the Rhino II on ebay in titanium is the right one? It's all so confusing.. The rhino 2 comes w a lug socket for accepting a standard J arm lug type mount. You can remove just the lug socket and replace it with a similar piece called a PVS15/PVS-18 socket which is designed to accept dovetail style mounts, like the Norotos Dual Dovetail Adapter, which is great. https://tnvc.com/shop/norotos-pvs-15-pvs-18-socket-for-aka2-mount/ |
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Posted: 7/12/2020 9:15:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks again! Been putting this off for the better part of a decade. Next sale needs to be some dovetail accessories though. This J arm bullshit is whack Is it that bad? Do I just suck it up and start looking for dovetail stuff now before my tube comes in? |
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Posted: 7/12/2020 9:30:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is it that bad? Do I just suck it up and start looking for dovetail stuff now before my tube comes in? I say this as someone who tries to be as cheap as possible and resists getting sucked into the latest/greatest: yes, start prowling for dovetail stuff now. The difference is night & day. ETA: the standard bayonet stuff is plenty usable so go out and play with it, but still be on the lookout for an entry into dovetail. |
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Posted: 7/12/2020 10:34:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I say this as someone who tries to be as cheap as possible and resists getting sucked into the latest/greatest: yes, start prowling for dovetail stuff now. The difference is night & day. ETA: the standard bayonet stuff is plenty usable so go out and play with it, but still be on the lookout for an entry into dovetail. -looks over sadly at credit card- |
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Posted: 7/12/2020 11:09:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: -looks over sadly at credit card- Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I say this as someone who tries to be as cheap as possible and resists getting sucked into the latest/greatest: yes, start prowling for dovetail stuff now. The difference is night & day. ETA: the standard bayonet stuff is plenty usable so go out and play with it, but still be on the lookout for an entry into dovetail. -looks over sadly at credit card- lol same. I bit the bullet and ordered a g24 and wilcox j arm. As someone already mentioned, these mounts hold their value well. I'll almost certainly be adding either a 2nd 14 or a Breach down the road. At that point, I'll just sell the j arm, buy a bridge and be gtg. |
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Posted: 7/12/2020 11:13:53 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/12/2020 11:15:52 AM EDT
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Oh hell, I'm in!
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Posted: 7/12/2020 11:36:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Or a new Rhino II from eBay for $80, a dovetail socket for the rhino II from TNVC and a Norotos dual dovetail for $150. All for less than the cost of a G24. Quote HistoryQuoted: Or a new Rhino II from eBay for $80, a dovetail socket for the rhino II from TNVC and a Norotos dual dovetail for $150. All for less than the cost of a G24. Awesome. Thanks for the info. Seems like a much better option, as I was planning on driving the Ranger around at night with this and the Ranch roads arn't exactly smooth Yes. Very helpful. Thanks bud. |
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Posted: 7/12/2020 11:54:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Awesome. Thanks for the info. Seems like a much better option, as I was planning on driving the Ranger around at night with this and the Ranch roads arn't exactly smooth Yes. Very helpful. Thanks bud. I know how that is with the Ranger. When we go check on the cows its bump after bump after bump
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Posted: 7/12/2020 12:04:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOh yeah, that ties it all together. Thanks to all the helpful people here. I've got my parts ordered and know how to put them together. |
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Posted: 7/12/2020 1:27:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryHoly shit that’s awesome So after the $70 dovetail adaptor, what’s the other piece To mount to the 14? Is this the only option or anything else? |
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Posted: 7/12/2020 1:30:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Holy shit that’s awesome So after the $70 dovetail adaptor, what’s the other piece To mount to the 14? Is this the only option or anything else? I ordered the Notoros PVS 15/18 socket to convert the Rhino to a dovetail for 55$ from TNVC, and then a Notoros Dual Dovetail Adapter from them for $140 |
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Posted: 7/12/2020 1:39:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I ordered the Notoros PVS 15/18 socket to convert the Rhino to a dovetail for 55$ from TNVC, and then a Notoros Dual Dovetail Adapter from them for $140 This for $54, right? And this for $142? |
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Posted: 7/12/2020 1:48:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lol same. I bit the bullet and ordered a g24 and wilcox j arm. As someone already mentioned, these mounts hold their value well. I'll almost certainly be adding either a 2nd 14 or a Breach down the road. At that point, I'll just sell the j arm, buy a bridge and be gtg. @-Abyss- where did you buy them? You get an estimated wait time on the order? |
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Posted: 7/12/2020 3:11:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @-Abyss- where did you buy them? You get an estimated wait time on the order? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: lol same. I bit the bullet and ordered a g24 and wilcox j arm. As someone already mentioned, these mounts hold their value well. I'll almost certainly be adding either a 2nd 14 or a Breach down the road. At that point, I'll just sell the j arm, buy a bridge and be gtg. @-Abyss- where did you buy them? You get an estimated wait time on the order? If you are looking, check kosher surplus. IIRC the black G24 is $415. |
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Posted: 7/12/2020 3:13:56 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryYes. Unfortunately, my helmet, Mohawk, mounts, and laser are all backordered. |
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Posted: 7/12/2020 3:43:55 PM EDT
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Pimp
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Posted: 7/12/2020 4:00:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @-Abyss- where did you buy them? You get an estimated wait time on the order? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: lol same. I bit the bullet and ordered a g24 and wilcox j arm. As someone already mentioned, these mounts hold their value well. I'll almost certainly be adding either a 2nd 14 or a Breach down the road. At that point, I'll just sell the j arm, buy a bridge and be gtg. @-Abyss- where did you buy them? You get an estimated wait time on the order? @DV8EDD It took me a couple of days to pull the trigger on my 14, so I'm looking at 8-10 weeks before I'll need a mount. Worst case I buy the cheapest used rhino I can find and make do with that until the g24 arrives. I placed an order with kosher surplus. I was able to upgrade to the j arm with on/off and still come out $40 cheaper. They have both the g24 and j arm listed as being in stock. |
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Posted: 7/12/2020 4:09:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you are looking, check kosher surplus. IIRC the black G24 is $415. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: lol same. I bit the bullet and ordered a g24 and wilcox j arm. As someone already mentioned, these mounts hold their value well. I'll almost certainly be adding either a 2nd 14 or a Breach down the road. At that point, I'll just sell the j arm, buy a bridge and be gtg. @-Abyss- where did you buy them? You get an estimated wait time on the order? If you are looking, check kosher surplus. IIRC the black G24 is $415. You just saved me some cash. 
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Posted: 7/12/2020 5:23:15 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You just saved me some cash. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: lol same. I bit the bullet and ordered a g24 and wilcox j arm. As someone already mentioned, these mounts hold their value well. I'll almost certainly be adding either a 2nd 14 or a Breach down the road. At that point, I'll just sell the j arm, buy a bridge and be gtg. @-Abyss- where did you buy them? You get an estimated wait time on the order? If you are looking, check kosher surplus. IIRC the black G24 is $415. You just saved me some cash. 
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Posted: 7/12/2020 5:34:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: AU has tan for $425, i think it took 4 days for mine to show up. |
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Posted: 7/12/2020 5:43:03 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: AU has tan for $425, i think it took 4 days for mine to show up. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: AU has tan for $425, i think it took 4 days for mine to show up. Those are OOS FWIW. |
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Posted: 7/12/2020 5:52:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those are OOS FWIW. My bad, just got mine this week. |
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Posted: 7/15/2020 11:56:20 AM EDT
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Got some dovetail stuff back ordered from TNVC. Again, fuck this J arm non sense
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Posted: 7/15/2020 12:18:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/15/2020 3:49:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Got a link for a good price on 3/32x1/4" Rollins? Trying to avoid this... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/184182/978EED84-0B04-471D-B53F-55C2D54993D7_png-1504927.JPG |
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Posted: 7/15/2020 4:07:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Got a link for a good price on 3/32x1/4” Rollins? Trying to avoid this... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/184182/978EED84-0B04-471D-B53F-55C2D54993D7_png-1504927.JPG I have a shit ton of roll pins left from my rhino conversion. Shoot me a PM and I’ll mail you some. |
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Posted: 7/15/2020 4:41:36 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a shit ton of roll pins left from my rhino conversion. Shoot me a PM and I’ll mail you some. IM sent |
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Posted: 7/15/2020 5:38:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: IM sent Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have a shit ton of roll pins left from my rhino conversion. Shoot me a PM and I’ll mail you some. IM sent Stuff like this is why I keep coming back. I forget that once you step out of the flaming carousel that is General Discussion, there's a community of people wanting to help one-another out and see us all being happy and successful. |
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Posted: 7/15/2020 5:46:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a shit ton of roll pins left from my rhino conversion. Shoot me a PM and I’ll mail you some. I need two as well. I just IM'd you. |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 4:49:50 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: lol same. I bit the bullet and ordered a g24 and wilcox j arm. As someone already mentioned, these mounts hold their value well. I'll almost certainly be adding either a 2nd 14 or a Breach down the road. At that point, I'll just sell the j arm, buy a bridge and be gtg. @-Abyss- where did you buy them? You get an estimated wait time on the order? If you are looking, check kosher surplus. IIRC the black G24 is $415. You just saved me some cash. mount and j-arm just came in! Thanks. @Honda4828 @-Abyss- |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 5:36:12 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: mount and j-arm just came in! Thanks. @Honda4828 @-Abyss- Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: lol same. I bit the bullet and ordered a g24 and wilcox j arm. As someone already mentioned, these mounts hold their value well. I'll almost certainly be adding either a 2nd 14 or a Breach down the road. At that point, I'll just sell the j arm, buy a bridge and be gtg. @-Abyss- where did you buy them? You get an estimated wait time on the order? If you are looking, check kosher surplus. IIRC the black G24 is $415. You just saved me some cash. mount and j-arm just came in! Thanks. @Honda4828 @-Abyss- Awesome! Glad it worked out. |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 6:55:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/18/2020 7:09:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: mount and j-arm just came in! Thanks. @Honda4828 @-Abyss- Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: lol same. I bit the bullet and ordered a g24 and wilcox j arm. As someone already mentioned, these mounts hold their value well. I'll almost certainly be adding either a 2nd 14 or a Breach down the road. At that point, I'll just sell the j arm, buy a bridge and be gtg. @-Abyss- where did you buy them? You get an estimated wait time on the order? If you are looking, check kosher surplus. IIRC the black G24 is $415. You just saved me some cash. mount and j-arm just came in! Thanks. @Honda4828 @-Abyss-  Attached FileMine came in as well. Looks like some quality kit for sure. |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 7:21:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In stock alert on the tan adapter socket Mine arrives Tuesday 
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Posted: 7/20/2020 10:10:01 AM EDT
[#39]
Anyone with the 1-2wk window hear anything?
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Posted: 7/20/2020 10:17:11 AM EDT
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Nope im in the 1-2 week crowd and nothing on my end yet.
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Posted: 7/20/2020 11:48:25 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone with the 1-2wk window hear anything? Nothing yet for me |
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Posted: 7/20/2020 2:30:11 PM EDT
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So I’m one week in on my wait for the JRH WP HP tube. This is my first dive into NV. So... the standard included J-arm and G11 I just ordered from TNVC is going to be a wobbly bitch?
Edit: also what DBAL should I be looking at? Or ATPIAL-C? Any other units? Totally nv noob |
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Posted: 7/20/2020 4:07:54 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Edit: also what DBAL should I be looking at? Or ATPIAL-C? Any other units? Totally nv noob I went with the DBAL-D2, since everyone says it has a better illuminator. But, it also weighs a little more, if that matters to you. |
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Posted: 7/20/2020 5:25:00 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I went with the DBAL-D2, since everyone says it has a better illuminator. But, it also weighs a little more, if that matters to you. D2 is the one I've seen people pushing, if not doing a MAWL |
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Posted: 7/20/2020 6:22:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I went with the DBAL-D2, since everyone says it has a better illuminator. But, it also weighs a little more, if that matters to you. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Edit: also what DBAL should I be looking at? Or ATPIAL-C? Any other units? Totally nv noob I went with the DBAL-D2, since everyone says it has a better illuminator. But, it also weighs a little more, if that matters to you. @AstraPat I'm new to this also and I've been trying to research and understand this stuff, gets confusing. I had a helpful chat with Bill at TNVC and Augee made a post earlier today that resonated with me. Spoiler - I ended up with a DBAL D2 and a clicky tailcap with my Surefire Scout white light. I ordered a unity hot button for the D2, I think it will be ergonomic with how I shoot. This will leave me a button for the D2, and a separate button (in a different area) for the white light. Two buttons, easy for a new guy. @Augee made a comment that keeping the two activation points physically separate will reduce chances of hitting your white light by accident. Makes sense, I've actually hit my white light by accident in day classes. That would be a huge liability in a night setting, particularly under NODs. D2 is 12 ounces but the illuminator is said to be great on this vs other options. Good IR illumination is a necessity in this application and I will hunt with it so I want range. The D2 visible laser and IR laser are slaved so I can zero it during the day and be ready to shoot it at night. Again, good for a NODs noob who has shooting experience. It was also on sale and in stock. I considered a combo of laser and separate IR light but felt D2 was the path of least resistance, simpler for a new guy. Going the other route would mean maybe two lights (one IR and one white) plus the laser so then I have three separate things on my gun instead of two. I want to simplify as I train up but I want to retain a white light on my gun. The next question is what the fuck do I do about iron sights? I got a T2 AND lasers, do I even keep them on my gun and what do I do about the front sight!?!?  |
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Posted: 7/21/2020 7:07:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @AstraPat I'm new to this also and I've been trying to research and understand this stuff, gets confusing. I had a helpful chat with Bill at TNVC and Augee made a post earlier today that resonated with me. Spoiler - I ended up with a DBAL D2 and a clicky tailcap with my Surefire Scout white light. I ordered a unity hot button for the D2, I think it will be ergonomic with how I shoot. This will leave me a button for the D2, and a separate button (in a different area) for the white light. Two buttons, easy for a new guy. @Augee made a comment that keeping the two activation points physically separate will reduce chances of hitting your white light by accident. Makes sense, I've actually hit my white light by accident in day classes. That would be a huge liability in a night setting, particularly under NODs. D2 is 12 ounces but the illuminator is said to be great on this vs other options. Good IR illumination is a necessity in this application and I will hunt with it so I want range. The D2 visible laser and IR laser are slaved so I can zero it during the day and be ready to shoot it at night. Again, good for a NODs noob who has shooting experience. It was also on sale and in stock. I considered a combo of laser and separate IR light but felt D2 was the path of least resistance, simpler for a new guy. Going the other route would mean maybe two lights (one IR and one white) plus the laser so then I have three separate things on my gun instead of two. I want to simplify as I train up but I want to retain a white light on my gun. The next question is what the fuck do I do about iron sights? I got a T2 AND lasers, do I even keep them on my gun and what do I do about the front sight!?!? This could be an option |
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Posted: 7/21/2020 7:21:30 AM EDT
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Just grabbed a dovetail aka2 for $160 with shroud on ebay.
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Posted: 7/21/2020 7:32:58 AM EDT
[#48]
A Co. Hardware has the correct diameter Roll Pins, but they are twice as long - a cutting wheel or Bench Grinder works fine. I actually never reinstalled the front Roll Pin, never was even close to ever going that far out + tethered anyway.
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Posted: 7/21/2020 7:57:57 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryThanks, was definitely one of the options. I see them on the EE from time to time also. Honestly I always have irons on my guns, even like shooting with them sometimes, but got thinking about the chances that a T2 AND a laser would both go down. Got to be a slim chance but it maybe best not to tempt fate
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Posted: 7/21/2020 8:06:21 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks, was definitely one of the options. I see them on the EE from time to time also. Honestly I always have irons on my guns, even like shooting with them sometimes, but got thinking about the chances that a T2 AND a laser would both go down. Got to be a slim chance but it maybe best not to tempt fate Look at the unity fast mount has irons built into it |
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