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Posted: 7/11/2012 6:38:52 PM EDT
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I'm accumulating an impressive but depressing collection of resizing dies with stuck cases, using Hornady one shot. Tonight it was new remington 260 brass and new redding die. Did everything by the book, and 90 rounds in, stuck case.
Time to move on. Please no tutorials on proper use of H one shot. Been there. I'm looking for alternative. Simply put, how can I keep from sticking brass in my die? |
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A lot of folks on here will recommend Imperial Sizing Wax, but I just did a run-off between it and the standard RCBS lube and pad method. I have used the pad since starting reloading in 1972 and have yet to stick a case in any die.
I use a mix of Lee, Hornady and RCBS dies in a range of calibers from 223 to 338RUM, plus 38/357, 45ACP, and 45 Colt. I recently bought 1500 LC 7.62 cases, and had to process them. During this processing, I cleaned my dies a couple of times. I noted that when I had clean dies, the Imperial felt like it was going to stick the case, and had a lot more pressure on the handle of the RockChucker, than a clean die running a case lubed on the pad with the RCBS lube. I tried this several times with the same results, so I think I have bought my last can of Imperial. The RCBS has always worked for me, and is about half the cost of the imperial. Either method was about equally messy. Little to none. I used a rotary tumbler and a vibratory to clean the case lube off. Hope this helps, and good luck. |
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Get rid of the one shot and get any one of these
Dillon Case Lube Frankford Arsenal Case Lube Imperial Sizing Wax I have used all 3 products and have only stuck a handful of cases. Get a stuck case removal tool if you do not own one to save them dies. This is the one that I have and it worked just fine for me. RCBS stuck case remover |
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A lot of guys on here swear by the Dillon case lube. I personally have never used it, but I have done the DIY lube using liquid lanolin and Anhydrous Isopropyl
Alchohol (99%). The Recipe I used I got HERE. So far I haven't had any problems with it. Good luck. |
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A lot of folks on here will recommend Imperial Sizing Wax, but I just did a run-off between it and the standard RCBS lube and pad method. I have used the pad since starting reloading in 1972 and have yet to stick a case in any die. I use a mix of Lee, Hornady and RCBS dies in a range of calibers from 223 to 338RUM, plus 38/357, 45ACP, and 45 Colt. I recently bought 1500 LC 7.62 cases, and had to process them. During this processing, I cleaned my dies a couple of times. I noted that when I had clean dies, the Imperial felt like it was going to stick the case, and had a lot more pressure on the handle of the RockChucker, than a clean die running a case lubed on the pad with the RCBS lube. I tried this several times with the same results, so I think I have bought my last can of Imperial. The RCBS has always worked for me, and is about half the cost of the imperial. Either method was about equally messy. Little to none. I used a rotary tumbler and a vibratory to clean the case lube off. Hope this helps, and good luck. I have been wondering if anyone else here used a lube pad. It has worked flawlessly for me, ever since I started reloading in '08 (the worst time to start reloading.  )
I think I will buy some Dillion lube and see how it works, since it looks much easier to lube a large amount of cases that way. Either way, the lube pad works absolutely great. I use bonanza case lube. |
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Interesting (often reoccurring) thread.
Recently, ... ok ... within the past 3 years, I've been tempted to try something faster than RCBS's tried and true system of lube and pad. And I'll probably give the Dillon, et el, stuff a try....any day now...., because having moved up to a progressive makes the old way a bit of a bottle neck. I've bought and tried Imperial wax in spite of RCBS telling me that wax build-up is going to bite me sooner or later. It does work so far....but I admit that out of fear I clean the sizers more often than I ever did before...except that it is just as slow. I also bought a bottle of RCBS spray lube, (smells like something toxic I don't want to breathe) and a bottle of Dillon (lanolin formula) spray lube. I haven't tried either yet. You see, I started loading in 1971, with RCBS's Rock Chucker Kit...including their lube and pad. I've never owned a stuck case remover....and I've enjoyed 41 years of stuck-case-free reloading......so far. Perhaps one can give me a little slack for being just a bit nervous about changing methods, seeing that the internet gun forums are full of stuck case stories. I'm also worried about stretched necks due to not enough lube inside the necks....or hell, too much lube in the necks. I know, I know, nothing to worry about, say the experts. Only sure thing for me is I will never buy Hornady's spray lube as now formulated. Too many examples of failure for my liking. I know some Imperial fans will suggest RCBS is critical of that product because it competes with theirs, but RCBS is known for bringing out their own versions of stuff that works. Who knows maybe they will...we'll see....and a lanolin product too! 
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i love my imperial over 2k cases and barely a dent in the tin.
It can be used for larger batches pretty quickly smear some on your hands then grab handfuls of cases and swish them around. I do them one at a time as i handle the cases on the way in to the sizing die just touch the wax every few cases and you can swipe your finger across the mouth or just stick one of the mouths right in the tin every once in a while. haven't cleaned my die out yet still sizes 223 smooth as butter. The homemade version seems a great choice as well i read many great reviews |
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Quoted: A lot of guys on here swear by the Dillon case lube. I personally have never used it, but I have done the DIY lube using liquid lanolin and Anhydrous Isopropyl Alchohol (99%). The Recipe I used I got HERE. So far I haven't had any problems with it. Good luck. This is what I use as well. I even dye mine a nice blue. :) |
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i love my imperial over 2k cases and barely a dent in the tin. It can be used for larger batches pretty quickly smear some on your hands then grab handfuls of cases and swish them around. I do them one at a time as i handle the cases on the way in to the sizing die just touch the wax every few cases and you can swipe your finger across the mouth or just stick one of the mouths right in the tin every once in a while. haven't cleaned my die out yet still sizes 223 smooth as butter. The homemade version seems a great choice as well i read many great reviews I also recently threw out the one shot after getting two stuck cases in a week (all 'properly' lube per one shot directions), and am loving the imperial and have deployed this exact method for lubing large batches at a time. Sizing is extremely smooth now with the imperial compared to how much resistance i still felt on the press stroke with the one shot. The convenience of the one shot was great and I'll admit i'm a little neurotic about getting my hands greasy while in my pristine reloading room but i'm a devout convert to the imperial now... |
| I am using a 650 with a case feeder and I've been using One Shot for a month now. Laid them out in a line, sprayed, rolled them all over, sprayed again, then a shot in the neck and haven't even come close to getting a 223 case stuck. BTW Dillon dies too, steel not carbide. |
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Imperial. I've never stuck a case. Been close, though, tryng to size .30 Carbine cases without lube. There's no reason to collect dies with stuck cases. Pull 'em out so the dies can be used. ^^^^^^ This... Differential coefficient of thermal expansion is your friend. Heat the die and stuck case up with a little torch, until spit sizzles. Blow chilled air up the center of the case. Case should fall right out. |
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i have always used one shot, mostly because its the first thing i ever bought and it hasnt run out. i havent had a stuck case yet. i use a paper plate and put 20-30 cases on it spray um shake um around and spray again..
now that i finally have a progressive im thinking maybe of making my own. |
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A lot of guys on here swear by the Dillon case lube. I personally have never used it, but I have done the DIY lube using liquid lanolin and Anhydrous Isopropyl Alchohol (99%). The Recipe I used I got HERE. So far I haven't had any problems with it. Good luck. This is what I use as well. I even dye mine a nice blue. :) Another thumbs up for homemade lanolin based lube. I've been using the recipe from this thread for .223. I use imperial for other stuff (.458 Socom, necking up .243 to .260 Rem, etc) but I do too many .223 at a time to handle every case. With the homemade lube I just dump a 100 or so cases in a bag and spray into it a few times and mix it up to get them all coated. Dump em on a tray, and give the alcohol a minute or so to evaporate and you are good to go |
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Imperial die wax..
*put a dab in your palm *rub palms together *run several peices brass through your palms like your starting a friction fire with a stick *add more imp die wax to palms continue to "wash rince repeat." *About every 6th or so peice of brass rotate the neck in your palm this will pick up enough wax to ease the expander ball in and out of the case mouth. *Lee paste lube will work also but IMP DIE WAX is my favorite. I can lube 1000peices of 223 brass in under 5 minutes and thats not rushing. |
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Been using an RCBS pad & lube since my dad started me reloading in '68 at the age of 6. 40+ years of reloading with only 2 stuck cases, both my fault. About 5 years ago I decided to give one of the spray lubes a try, followed directions exactly and promptly stuck the first 3 cases. Went back to the pad and haven't stuck another since.
Although I have to admit, when forming brass I use a sizing wax. MLG |
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Often imitated but never duplicated... 
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/counterclockwisester/caselube2.jpg Be careful using the water soluble lube, it does have a tendency to rust the inside of the sizer if not cleaned after use. 'Borg |
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I have never stuck a case. Came close a couple of times.
I use Imperial wax when I neck size my .308 and .30-'06. I just dip some up with my finger and rub it on the neck. I normally grab 5 or so cases at a time and lube them together. It doesn't take much to lube them. For .223 I use some C-H lube that I bought in the mid '60s. I grab a handful of cases and run a bead of lube down one case. Then I rub the handful between my palms. Works well. |
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Often imitated but never duplicated...
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh133/counterclockwisester/caselube2.jpg Be careful using the water soluble lube, it does have a tendency to rust the inside of the sizer if not cleaned after use. 'Borg Good advice about the rust. I use a RCBS lube die for 223 and Hornady unique case lube for other rifle brass. Both work very well. |
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A lot of guys on here swear by the Dillon case lube. I personally have never used it, but I have done the DIY lube using liquid lanolin and Anhydrous Isopropyl Alchohol (99%). The Recipe I used I got HERE. So far I haven't had any problems with it. Good luck. This is what I use as well. I even dye mine a nice blue. :) Another thumbs up for homemade lanolin based lube. I've been using the recipe from this thread for .223. I use imperial for other stuff (.458 Socom, necking up .243 to .260 Rem, etc) but I do too many .223 at a time to handle every case. With the homemade lube I just dump a 100 or so cases in a bag and spray into it a few times and mix it up to get them all coated. Dump em on a tray, and give the alcohol a minute or so to evaporate and you are good to go This ^ yet again. You can even "tweak" the recipe for your specific dies if needed or just to your liking for the heck of it. I've gone through many thousands of rounds without one being stuck using this lube. It just works ........ |
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