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8/18/2004 9:29:24 PM EDT
I need some tips on mounting a scope.  I just picked up an FN SPR A1a and will be mounting Nikon Tactical glass in Badger rings onto a Badger base.  Does anyone have any recommended tips/tricks to ensure the best mount possible?
8/20/2004 1:08:42 AM EDT
[#1]
Buy some rubbing alcohol, Q-tips, and both High and Medium-strength Lock-Tite.

Use the alcohol to degrease the area around the screw holes in the receiver.  Use red Locktite on the base screws, and tighten them back and forth like you would lug-nuts on a car.

Install the scope ring bases on the rail, set the scope on it, and figure out where it needs to be for optimum eye relief.  Note that you should have your scope dialed up to highest magnification for this, as this is where eye relief is most narrow.  Once you know where the scope is going to go, your rings should be as far apart as possible (the Badger rails are great for this, unlike other rails with just one or two slots front and back).  When you know where the rings need to be, use blue Locktite on the scope bases and tighten them down.

Now, install the ring caps.  Leave them loose so you can position the scope and ensure that it is level.  The best way to do this is to use a plumb line (some paracord with a weight on it hung 25 yards away) and, with the rifle level, align the scope's vertical crosshair to the plumb line.  Tighten the caps back and forth so they're even, and double-check that you didn't rotate the scope during the tightening.  Once you're done and happy with where the scope is, remove the cap screws one at a time, apply blue Locktite, and reinstall.

BTW, that SPR is a GREAT rifle!

-Troy
8/20/2004 7:43:30 AM EDT
[#2]
Thanks!
8/20/2004 4:46:41 PM EDT
[#3]
Whooaaaa Troy, never ever use locktite on scope mounts or rings... I mounted a scope on a .475 Linebaugh pistol a month back, WITHOUT any locktite, and it hasnt moved yet..

Do what you want for your own guns, but I would never tell anyone to use loctite..

Read this month's American Rifleman, they have a excellent article abiout mounting optics in it.. The author even stresse to leave the loctite in the garage...
8/20/2004 5:56:39 PM EDT
[#4]
Any threaded fastener that isn't locked into place can come off.  I've personally seen it happen well over a dozen times to guys at the range.  I've had it happen even after *I* tightened stuff down for these guys.

There is absolutely no reason NOT to use LockTite, and more than enough reason TO use it.

Don't believe everything you read.

-Troy
8/20/2004 6:55:54 PM EDT
[#5]
I guess it wont hurt.. If you never want to remove your scope.. But I have never had one.. IN QUALITY mounts or rings come loose..
8/20/2004 6:59:58 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
Buy some rubbing alcohol, Q-tips, and both High and Medium-strength Lock-Tite.

Use the alcohol to degrease the area around the screw holes in the receiver.  Use red Locktite on the base screws, and tighten them back and forth like you would lug-nuts on a car.

Install the scope ring bases on the rail, set the scope on it, and figure out where it needs to be for optimum eye relief.  Note that you should have your scope dialed up to highest magnification for this, as this is where eye relief is most narrow.  Once you know where the scope is going to go, your rings should be as far apart as possible (the Badger rails are great for this, unlike other rails with just one or two slots front and back).  When you know where the rings need to be, use blue Locktite on the scope bases and tighten them down.

Now, install the ring caps.  Leave them loose so you can position the scope and ensure that it is level.  The best way to do this is to use a plumb line (some paracord with a weight on it hung 25 yards away) and, with the rifle level, align the scope's vertical crosshair to the plumb line.  Tighten the caps back and forth so they're even, and double-check that you didn't rotate the scope during the tightening.  Once you're done and happy with where the scope is, remove the cap screws one at a time, apply blue Locktite, and reinstall.

BTW, that SPR is a GREAT rifle!

-Troy



I rarely use red anymore, one bad experience -- out of 50.  Gun shy, now.

I do use blue without reservation.
8/20/2004 8:02:54 PM EDT
[#7]
You really need to use Red when putting on things that MUST NOT come loose.  Glock front sights, for example.  But, otherwise, I agree: use blue by default, and even weaker stuff as the size of the screw/bolt/threaded area goes up.

-Troy
8/23/2004 5:40:56 PM EDT
[#8]
If your worried about removing screws that have had red loctite put on them, just take a soldering iron and heat the screw first when taking it out. Works every time for me.
8/25/2004 9:47:52 PM EDT
[#9]
Correct; heat will break the adhesion of red Locktite.

-Troy
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