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I always put 2"-24" for barrel length when making an SBR. This is a simple way to make sure you do not get hassled. mark [email protected] |
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Budam: If you use 2"-24" on barrel length, what figures do you use for overall length? Thanks! hug.gif |
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Another Question… If I filled out a form 1 to make my AR15 into a SBR(and was approved) can I legally take the upper to a gunsmith and have him/her put the shorter barrel on the upper? Would this be legal? Or a different question. Can I legally buy an upper with a barrel length less then 16 inches without breaking the law? |
As long as the smith only has the upper, it should be fine. You may also buy the upper. |
You could give the complete gun to the FFL gunsmith who would put a short barrel onto the upper. Any smith worth their salt will test it on your complete gun and make sure it works. Completely legal... No form 5 is required for gunsmithing like above.
If you have an SBR, MG o an AR15 pistol. mark [email protected] |
I measure the length of fire less barrel assembly and then add it to minimum/maximum length. mark [email protected] |
Yes, you are the manufacture of the SBR. Put your initials and a abbreviation of your city and state. Example: Lostgone Itching Goodboy at Merrimack, New Hampshire would be: LIG MMK NH mark [email protected] |
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Two more newbie (dumb) questions: On the Citizenship form, who's name is entered on line 2. ..Certifying to citizenship__________? Does this form need to be notarized? -LS |
Pro-Life = capable of loving another, more than yourself.
It’s not a tadpole, it’s a BABY.
It’s not a tadpole, it’s a BABY.
Your name goes in line#2. You end up certifying yourself. No, the form does not need to be notarized. |
If your not shooting, you should be moving. If your not moving, you should be reloading. Clint Smith - Thunder Ranch
I glued mine on using some of my daughters "Arts+Crafts" glue. |
If your not shooting, you should be moving. If your not moving, you should be reloading. Clint Smith - Thunder Ranch
simply answer the question. Why do you want one? I put "enhance collection" |
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I was informed to put "Firearms Collector" by a couple of friends who have already went through the process. The ATF just cashed my check last week, I assume thats a good sign. 
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If your not shooting, you should be moving. If your not moving, you should be reloading. Clint Smith - Thunder Ranch
Quick questions on Corporate Route: 1. The SBR would be considered an asset, therefore Taxable, right? Also it would depreciate just like any other Asset, right? 2. Does it matter what type of a Corporation, such as a standard Corp, sun-chapter S, LLL, and most importantly a Trust??? I am thinking of forming a Family Trust for personal finance reasons, and if this could also be used as the holder of the SBR, then everything would be PERFECT for me???? |
Hey- this link doesn't work anymore- can someone find the thread referenced here? |
You should ask your accountant about this. Mine said that unless the item is in used in the corporation's business (like a computer would be), it is considered an investment asset instead of a working asset. So he would not write off any depreciation, but if/when the corporation sells the SBR, any loss becomes deductible.
"C" corps, "S" corps and LLCs are fine. Family Trusts are another matter -- I know of several cases where BATF has refused to transfer NFA items to trusts here in Florida. Other states may vary. In addition, NFA-savvy attorneys and accountants have told me that for legal/accounting reasons, trusts are not a good way to go. (I don't recall the details because I use an established "S" corp; however, BATF generally requires the transferee to be a legal entity acknowledged, chartered or licensed by the state of residence, and many trusts do not meet that criteria.) HTH. |
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You are a licensed collector, not a licensed dealer, so no, you would not need to. You can put that info in if you like, but I doubt it will have any effect either way. |
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| Did I call too soon? I mailed my packet to them on 11/22/04 and the USPS confirmed that it was delivered on 11/26/04. I called today to check the status and was told that they had no record of my serial number. My check hasnt been cashed yet either. The operator told me that I may have to resumit my forms. That would not be good. Should I be patient and keep looking for the check to be cashed and call again later? |
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I'm new to AR ownership (2 weeks) and considering an SBR build. Most of the SBR build websites refer to pre-ban and post-ban lower receivers, but not non-ban. I'm assuming this is because they haven't been updated since the sunset. But just in case, as long as I don't live in a state or city that regulates SBRs, can I build it using any lower? Thanks! |
Yes |
If your not shooting, you should be moving. If your not moving, you should be reloading. Clint Smith - Thunder Ranch
They won't have a record of your serial number until well after your check has cleared. I would check with your bank for your check to clear and then wait atleast 10 days for BATF to have you on record. You have a while to wait still, expect about a 4 month wait (minimum). |
Ask around in your hometown forum. You can also call your sheriffs/police dept., and ask to speak with the sherif/police chief ( you probabkly won't get further than their secretary however) and just ask them (chief or secretary). |
Spec. for life in the Nasty G who knows that there is no such thing as a stupid question, only stupid people.
Did you get approval yet? |
Now that's a good problem to have....
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From my post on 10/29/2004:
Well its now 02/14/2005 and I am still waiting. BATFE cashed my check on Nov 15, I know that doesn't mean anything. |
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I went to the ATF's website to order my fingerprint cards and there are 4 FD-258s listed. Is this the one I need to submit with my SBR paperwork: FBI FD-258LE - NFA, Imports ORI DCATF0100? I printed all my other forms but need to order these. Thanks! |
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If this has been asked, then I'm sorry, I didn't see it. <aybe it's just obvious. So basically, I buy the lower first, correct? then this is the serial number I use? and obvously the part that gets engraved when I get approved. can I buy the lower as a Pistol, build it as a pistol then convert it when aproved? Thanks. |
"War is less costly than servitude. The choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." -Jean Dutourd
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I was under the impression that once it's registered as a pistol, it's a pistol. Does the addition of a stock make it an AOW or SBR? And remember, as Mr. Garrison would say on South Park, "there are not dumb questions, just dumb people." Thanks in advance. Shot, over. 
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I'm not positive about how this applies to AR's but I'm sure it's the same as everything else. I have a T/C Encore Pistol, which I can buy all the hardware for and turn it into a rifle (if I buy rifle length barrels). If I had a T/C rifle, I could legally turn it into a pistol. Sounds weird right, well the reason it is legal is that all T/C frames are registered as pistols. |
"War is less costly than servitude. The choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." -Jean Dutourd
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