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Link Posted: 6/12/2017 12:45:35 AM EDT
Hello everyone,

Long time lurker, first time poster.

I recently purchased a bunch of polymer lowers and am considering my first from-scratch build to be an SBR and I was going to get an engraver to go ahead and get at least 2 of them done. There is a very small amount of aluminum that is used for structural integrity and a small section of it was left exposed for an engraved S/N. My question is, since there is no metal portion to be engraved, would engraving on the polymer be acceptable as "permanent"? For example "American Tactical Summerville, SC" is embossed into the polymer.

I'll start on getting the required paperwork filled out in the next couple of days and I'm sure I'll have more questions then. This thread has been a great resource to get me started though, so thanks everyone for that.
Link Posted: 8/4/2017 11:33:03 PM EDT
First off, BigWaylonThanks for all the info on submitting a Form 1, your step by step tutorial is awesome. I'm not sure if this has been answered or even asked, but for question 4d for model, I'm not sure what to put down, I'm using a Sig Sauer M400 lower for my SBR, and there is no "model" designation, other than SIG on the mag well and the sn and manufacturer & city info above the trigger. I know your previous answers have specified to put what is on the lower. Should I leave it blank or should I put down SIG? Thanks in advance.
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 7:26:23 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 7:34:01 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/5/2017 10:13:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigWaylon:
I don't have a definite answer on that. The problem is that if you put something in the box, it's supposed to be engraved. So, if you put something there that's not already on the firearm, you'd be responsible for getting it added.

On top of that, it seems the ATF has access to manufacturer info (or maybe just a database of previous info) that has model name. I say that because they often give suggestions when they send out an error letter. So...you might put something down that is different from what they think it should be.

Others may be able to give you a better answer...but I'll tell you want I'd do. I'd take a pic of both sides of the receiver showing all engravings, put "N/A" in 4d, and then print the pics on a single sheet of paper along with a sentence saying you put N/A because the model wasn't designated on the receiver. The regulation says the model has to be engraved, if designated. (My F1 suppressors have N/A on the F1s for model, and I didn't engrave anything for model). I'd send that sheet in with my forms.

Odds are no matter what I chose to do, they'd send an error letter requesting something different.
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Originally Posted By WarriorSoulM4:
First off, BigWaylonThanks for all the info on submitting a Form 1, your step by step tutorial is awesome. I'm not sure if this has been answered or even asked, but for question 4d for model, I'm not sure what to put down, I'm using a Sig Sauer M400 lower for my SBR, and there is no "model" designation, other than SIG on the mag well and the sn and manufacturer & city info above the trigger. I know your previous answers have specified to put what is on the lower. Should I leave it blank or should I put down SIG? Thanks in advance.
I don't have a definite answer on that. The problem is that if you put something in the box, it's supposed to be engraved. So, if you put something there that's not already on the firearm, you'd be responsible for getting it added.

On top of that, it seems the ATF has access to manufacturer info (or maybe just a database of previous info) that has model name. I say that because they often give suggestions when they send out an error letter. So...you might put something down that is different from what they think it should be.

Others may be able to give you a better answer...but I'll tell you want I'd do. I'd take a pic of both sides of the receiver showing all engravings, put "N/A" in 4d, and then print the pics on a single sheet of paper along with a sentence saying you put N/A because the model wasn't designated on the receiver. The regulation says the model has to be engraved, if designated. (My F1 suppressors have N/A on the F1s for model, and I didn't engrave anything for model). I'd send that sheet in with my forms.

Odds are no matter what I chose to do, they'd send an error letter requesting something different.
Thanks again, I will do just that
Link Posted: 11/8/2017 5:47:09 PM EDT
Sorry to rehash this thread but hopefully someone can help me understand something with the Form 1.

Filing as individual, section 4c, 4d, and 4g:

For an AR lower, do I use the model and serial number that's already on the receiver from Anderson, or as the "maker" of the SBR, do I come up with my own serial number, such as "001" or something?  CAN I use Anderson's serial number to make it easier?

Section 4h:

Walkthrough thread here says used to be left blank, but now you enter the information you'll engrave on the receiver.  Would that information to be engraved be the following:

XXXX (serial number no smaller than 1/16th inch, .003 depth)
AR-15 5.56mm (model and caliber, .003 depth)
John Q. Public, Anytown, NY USA (makers name and place SBR was made, .003 depth)

Also, is there any way to have it be for multiple calibers, or would I need to list each caliber I "might" ever want?

Thanks
Link Posted: 11/9/2017 10:34:19 AM EDT
Does location of engraving matter as long as it is on the receiver? A company I have been looking at to engrave mine offers the option to engrave under the receiver above and below where the trigger comes out so it would be hidden.
Link Posted: 11/9/2017 1:32:24 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/27/2017 2:45:45 PM EDT
@BigWaylon can you help me out?
Is it legal to travel interstate with a sbr lower using a 16” barrel?
And do you need a 5320.20 for a suppressor to travel out of state?
I know that they are both legal to do, but I can’t find the language or the answer on the FAQ page.
Link Posted: 11/27/2017 3:53:00 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/31/2018 5:03:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/31/2018 5:05:33 PM EDT by Proto3]
Edit: Nevermind, found the answer.
Link Posted: 2/18/2018 10:04:36 AM EDT
@elkoholic
Link Posted: 7/24/2018 4:50:51 PM EDT
@BigWaylon I filled out the pdf form of the 5320.20, do you know the email address that I’m supposed to send it to? I’ve always went the snail mail route, that I’d try something different.
Link Posted: 7/24/2018 4:59:59 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/31/2019 4:16:32 PM EDT
Ok...have my first sbr. Did the trust....this way my fam can shoot my sbr and stuff. I didnt put them on yet becauae I knew I was gonna be adding another sbr to the trust. When this one is said and done..I will adding them.
Now I know some things have changed with paper work over the year or two since my first sbr.
Last time I went with silencer shop, what is a easier way to do it this time? And how do I add this one to the trust...the first time was confusing as hell and this is no different. I know I have to get this lower engraved also, and I should engrave it the same way as the other lower, right? Meaning name on it and all?

Thanks guys...I really appreciate your time.
Link Posted: 12/31/2019 6:34:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/31/2019 6:35:09 PM EDT by BigWaylon]
Link Posted: 7/1/2020 7:58:05 PM EDT
I submitted the F1 for my AR lower, it currently has a rifle upper but was originally a pistol.

Once I have the approval and engraving, it is only a NFA item with the rifle stock on it correct, if I swap on a SBA3 stock and it has a 10.5" upper it is no longer a NFA item correct. Also is it still ok to swap to different barrel length uppers or does it need to remain at 10.5" like I filled out initially.
Link Posted: 7/2/2020 11:40:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/2/2020 11:41:15 AM EDT by SilverLightning]
Not sure if this is the thread to ask this question-

When engraving a Form 1 SBR, what if I don't live within city limits? Do use the town on my mailing address or just the county?
Link Posted: 1/7/2021 12:53:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SilverLightning:
Not sure if this is the thread to ask this question-

When engraving a Form 1 SBR, what if I don't live within city limits? Do use the town on my mailing address or just the county?
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Use the city and state from block 3B on your approved Form 1.
Link Posted: 7/13/2021 2:05:16 PM EDT
Form 1 SBR engraving question - I have an 80% lower that I want to have specific personally-amusing engravings, but it's also going to be a registered SBR. If the front of the magwell gets the proper (real name, location et cetera) markings, would I use those for the registration and still be able to run (for example) "Nerf Firearms Division, Fun City, West Pensyltucky" in the traditional left-side-receiver location?
Link Posted: 7/13/2021 3:12:20 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/13/2021 3:14:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigWaylon:

Are you asking if you can do both of these?

1. Engrave all the required info in an acceptable spot
2. Engrave additional nonsense anywhere on the firearm

If so, I know of no regulation that would prevent #2 as long as #1 happened.
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Cool, just wanted to verify. Thanks!
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