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Posted: 7/7/2015 6:21:33 PM EDT
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Just picked one up for a song and dance.
He said it had been sitting for 15 years and that it needed to be cleaned and oiled. I've spent the last hour looking for a manual and come up with zilch. Any help out there? Thanks |
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You can use a furniture clamp. I actually did it with sheer arm strength by pushing the end piece against my work bench while my wife set the pins.
I use a furniture clamp on a 1/2 inch piece of steel tubing. It is the kind of clamp that screws on to the tube on one end and has a latch set up on the other end that slides along the tube. Probably get them at Home Depot. I got mine a Sears. To do the job properly, you should get in there and clean out the old stuff. Use synthetic grease if possible. If not, a small dab of high content molly grease around the piston seal works well also. It may smoke and diesel for a few shots but it will settle down and be just fine. Chamber oil worked best when the piston seals were leather. Now they are a plastic type material, the proper amount of grease is best. That gun is a sweet gun but a bit hold sensitive. Mine likes to be death gripped, while others accept the artillery hold. |
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OK, I put several drops of chamber oil in the chamber, but I may have put too much spring oil in the spring.
Is that going to hurt? Like I said, it's been sitting for over 15 years. I will let it sit overnight, barrel down so if there's too much in the chamber, it will drain out. |
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You can use a furniture clamp. I actually did it with sheer arm strength by pushing the end piece against my work bench while my wife set the pins. I use a furniture clamp on a 1/2 inch piece of steel tubing. It is the kind of clamp that screws on to the tube on one end and has a latch set up on the other end that slides along the tube. Probably get them at Home Depot. I got mine a Sears. To do the job properly, you should get in there and clean out the old stuff. Use synthetic grease if possible. If not, a small dab of high content molly grease around the piston seal works well also. It may smoke and diesel for a few shots but it will settle down and be just fine. Chamber oil worked best when the piston seals were leather. Now they are a plastic type material, the proper amount of grease is best. That gun is a sweet gun but a bit hold sensitive. Mine likes to be death gripped, while others accept the artillery hold. Agreed to a point. I didnt need a wife to put the pins in for me. 
I used Lucas "red and Tacky" as the grease, and a VERY light coat at that. its synthetic and very very sticky, which is a good thing. Good gun, watch the cocking lever for cracks around the hinge. Ive had 2 snap there in the 20 years that I have owned them. VERY powerful rifle, and VERY hold sensitive, I dont care who tells you they arent. A paint roller for a front rest and a good arigun rated scope and you are set. Good luck OP |
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OK, I put several drops of chamber oil in the chamber, but I may have put too much spring oil in the spring. Is that going to hurt? Like I said, it's been sitting for over 15 years. I will let it sit overnight, barrel down so if there's too much in the chamber, it will drain out. Your going to get alot of dieseling with the chamber oil. Probably going to sound like a 22 for the first half dozen shots, accompanied by lots of smoke. Possible damage to spring and piston. My recommendation would be to pick up a Macarri or Vortek kit. Macarri will improve shootability and smoothness while the Vortek will improve velocity and to an extent smoothness. YMMV. ETA: Spring oil is a joke. Any self respecting springer is going to use a light coat of spring tar, AKA high pressure moly bearing grease. Spring oil is just too thin. |
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Now you've got me scared, so 5 drops of chamber oil, left overnight, barrel down won't drain?
The old Beeman R1 I have, manual says to use something that looks like Dri-slide, several drops in the chamber, cock and uncock several times, then stand barrel down so it can drain overnight. Will chamber oil not do that? What if I used the chamber cleaning fluid on it, will it remove some oil? Just trying not to ruin a nice air rifle. |
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After 15 years, still under warranty and not being the original buyer?
Let it sit for 2 days and just ran a couple of patches down the bore, and the first one was soaked. Mopped out the oil in the port area, the shot a couple of pellets. Didn't even diesel or smoke that I could tell. Whew! I'm going to watch myself from now on. |
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Get a Maccari tune kit. You can get by without a spring compressor tool. The spring should be lubed with a thin coat of heavy grease, Maccari calls it spring tar and sells it on his web site. The seal gets a very thin coat of high content MolyB grease. I use MolyB caliper grease for brakes. Clean the compression tube of all the old gunk and the same for the piston. Install the new seal, spring and put it together. RWS guns are notoriously dry from the factory, mine was barren of lube. Once you put the new spring and seal in with the proper lubes, it will be an entirely new rifle.
If you dont want to install a complete kit, I would order a new seal and tar from Maccari and clean and relube it at the very minimum. I have a 48 in .177 that has a Maccari kit ad t spits CPH pellets at ~900ish fps. They are very hard shooting rifles. They are very accurate also and with a good tune, not as hold sensitive as they are from the factory. Vortek makes a good kit also. |
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After 15 years, still under warranty and not being the original buyer? .. . . Quoted:
After 15 years, still under warranty and not being the original buyer? .. . . Officially, the warranty only applies to the original owner but usually they honored it for whoever sent the gun in . . . at least they used to. That may have changed but I bet they would cover the gun if there was a problem. Quoted:
Let it sit for 2 days and just ran a couple of patches down the bore, and the first one was soaked. Mopped out the oil in the port area, the shot a couple of pellets. Didn't even diesel or smoke that I could tell. Whew! I'm going to watch myself from now on. I didn't think you'd have any problem. Shoot the dang thing. |
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