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Posted: 12/6/2011 10:19:50 AM EDT
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Hey people of ARFcom I was hoping some of you could help me out. I got a gun that I paid $550 for and it is 99%.
I got a chance to get a Winchester Model 94 in 30-30 in trade for the gun. The serial number is 23338**. The guy says that it was bought 35 years or more ago I don't know if there is any truth to that or not I am trying to find out what the gun would be worth if it was 99%. The only thing that really sucks about it is that it has some rust on it. The bore looks good thus far and I don't know if the rust is pitting or not. I am going to try and get some of the rust off of it tonight after work. Anything that I should be watching out for with this gun? Any help would be great. Thanks so much. 
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Pretty hard to give a value without more info/pics, kinda need to know.....
Is it a carbine or a saddle ring carbine? Or a rifle? Wood condition? Drilled & tapped for receiver sights or scope? How bad is the rust? Original sights still there? Oh, and it looks like date of manufacture was 1958ish. |
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Pretty hard to give a value without more info/pics, kinda need to know..... Is it a carbine or a saddle ring carbine? Or a rifle? The length of the barrel is 19 5//8 of an inch from the muzzle to the front of the receiver Wood condition? Some wear and a few nicks put it this way its been used but not abused as far as the wood goes Drilled & tapped for receiver sights or scope? None of the above How bad is the rust? describe what you mean by how bad   lets jut say this I wanted to hit him over the head with the gun. See above for the rust explanation.
Original sights still there? Appears to be yes. Oh, and it looks like date of manufacture was 1958ish. Oh real quick BTW the gun that I got is a brand new (fired less than 125 times seriously) S&W M&P 9 mm compact 99% condition with everything that the gun came with when I bought the gun right down to the obiglatory gun lock and fired case in the little envelope. OK The RUST The rust is the worst on the barrel there is one spot that is really bad I'd say it is 2 to 4% (1 1/2 long by 1/2 in wide) of the guns total surface area. This rust I really don't know it might be pitting rust. As for the rest of the gun and the rest of the rust lets just say the gun is riddled with it I would say that minus what I have said already about the rust, the rest of the guns total surface area I would say that the rust covers about 15% on the low end to a conservative high end of 25%. But other than that one spot mentioned above I think it could be taken off by hand with some patience and steel wool. It looks like over spray when your painting something with a spray gun if you know what I mean. I am just really trying to find what would be a fair price for the gun as to what it is worth in a trade situation. There is no doubt in my mind with the way that the gun sits I have the upper hand (not that I am going to use that against him after all he is one of my patients, but at the same time I don't want to be ripped off either you know what I mean) What would the gun be worth if it was 100% just out of curiosity? Thanks for taking the time folks for answering my questions this is the reason why I love ar15.com so much. |
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http://oldguns.net/sn_php/windateslookup.php?file=win1894.dat
enter you serial and will tell you the year. They made millions of the guns and the commemorative models are the collectors. I have a 1973 that looks new. I paid $200 for it and it was a good investment for nothing else that they are no longer made. |
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Okay, from your description of the finish issues, I personally would call this a shooter, not a collectible at this point unless it had some significant documentable historical aspect or association.
As the poster above said, there were quite a few made, and collectors can still find very good to mint condition pre-64 .30-30 examples (most common caliber) to fill holes in their collections without too much effort and $$. For example, about 4 months ago I sold a 1954 .30-30 carbine in 95-98% condition for $650. It was complete with original sights, excellent wood and finish, and no wear on the loading gate. This was absolutely top dollar for this gun, since it did not have the factory box or paperwork. Based just on your description, with no other info or pix, I'd conservatively guesstimate a value of $295-375. The value can be higher for a shooter in other regions such as states with heavy brush hunting or that prohibit semiautos for hunting. Lever guns command higher prices there because of their magazine capacity, quick handling and rapid firing, faster than most bolt guns. You need to go to your local library or bookstore, find a current copy of the Blue Book of Gun values, the one with photo examples of several different types of condition guns and see how your gun matches up. Then see what the value of that % is listed as. Hope that helps! |
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