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Posted: 8/30/2005 8:19:02 AM EDT
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One thing for sure, you're going to want a DSA aluminum lower, and a couple or three of their other aluminum parts, such as trigger guard, charging handle, etc.. Lose the bopod, or get a QD bipod from DSA if you must have one. Think small (light) on muzzle device. Don't forget alloy-bodied mags. Next to the lower, the biggest single weight-saver. Basically, you want a DSA StG58 Carbine with as many aluminum parts as possible. If you order it that way, DSA might work with you and you can save a little $. Make sure you get one with composite, NOT metal handguards. BBL might not be chrome lined tho... check it out. |
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Posted: 8/30/2005 10:16:47 AM EDT
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DSA just shipped my new FAL last week. It's a SA58 w/ 18" military contour barrel and Steyr short flash hider. (No chrome lining though.) I don't have an accurate scale, but it seems to weigh less than my 16" AR w/ Aimpoint. I got the Type I receiver, but I think the Type II may be even a little lighter. It has the aluminum lower, trigger guard, charging handle, maybe something else. This rifle is much lighter than I ever expected. Just have to shoot it now...
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Posted: 8/30/2005 11:43:28 AM EDT
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Build your own, however you like.
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Posted: 8/30/2005 2:40:17 PM EDT
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Might I suggest a full-length screw-on gas tube, not the soldiered on short version. It won't add much weight and it's one less place for debris to get in. Even DSA will build it like that if you ask them nicely. |
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Posted: 8/31/2005 8:26:36 AM EDT
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I just got off the phone with DSA and it was hard to find someone who knew what they were talking about. The lady on the phone recommended "A Stainless Steel Model Because They Are Lighter" GEEEEEZ. I finally was transferred to John who was helpful but advised there are no plans for a chrome lined barrel model.
Where can I get aluminum mags? Any custom smiths who can make what I want? Thanks for the help so far. DSA sounds great except for the barrel. |
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Posted: 8/31/2005 11:32:36 AM EDT
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This guy can, but you usually have to supply the parts for the build. www.arizonaresponsesystems.com/ Another idea is have DSA built it as close as they can to what you want, then buy the barrel, etc., you want and have a smith install it. DSA is the only game in town for some of the parts and it will probably add up to much more if bought separately rather than have them built the initial rifle. When you want custom the price goes up accordingly. I'd email ARS or another smith for the best way to put this project together. |
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Posted: 9/1/2005 3:04:35 PM EDT
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That sounds like my rifle. DSA Type 2 upper and light weight para lower, Imbel para 18.25" chrome-lined barrel, FSE or DSA parts where needed. Of course it's been at ARS for six months waiting for a build and finishing...
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Posted: 9/1/2005 11:50:11 PM EDT
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If you can't find an 18" CL barrel, have one cut down, crowned and threaded. I'm having it done as we speak.
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Posted: 9/2/2005 6:56:45 AM EDT
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The std 21" Imbel bbl is chromed for the chamber only; you may find exceptions in other models/mfg.
Argentine 21" bbls are fully chrome lined, and can be found at times for about $100. You can cut/crown from there. You'll have to beat bushes for alum Para mags now, as there never were very many. |
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Posted: 9/2/2005 7:41:35 AM EDT
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Thanks again for all the help. Where can I locate an Argentine barrel? Are these barrels of high quality?
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Posted: 9/2/2005 7:42:33 AM EDT
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Thanks again for all the help. Where can I locate an Argentine barrel? Are these barrels of high quality?
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Posted: 9/2/2005 6:53:03 PM EDT
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Why don't you take some steroids and ignore the weight issue. Your only gonna end up with a gun that you don't enjoy to shoot.
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Posted: 9/2/2005 8:08:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/5/2005 1:25:27 AM EDT
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The Argentine barrels are of exceptional quality. Second only to the Steyr StG58 barrels IMHO. I have two Argentine Barrels. One mounted and one for a spare if I ever wear the first one out. |
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Posted: 9/5/2005 9:27:52 AM EDT
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I just found a chrome lined bore/chamber "Imbel" barrel. Is this of good quality?
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Posted: 9/5/2005 11:21:47 AM EDT
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IMBEL is the name of the company in Brasil that manufactured that barrel. IMBEL is an FN licensed manufacturer of F A L rifles and are still manufacturing them. IMBEL is also the company that manufactures the slides and frames for Springfield Armory 1911s. IMBEL is a quality outfit and they produce quality parts and firearms. New IMBEL para barrels bring a premium price. One that is chrome lined bore and chamber is especially desirable. |
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