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Link Posted: 12/26/2018 7:27:32 PM EST
Folks talking about warranty support. You know, if you buy a class-3b U.S.-made laser, even if you buy it legally, it won't have a warranty either since the manufacturers won't support private owners.

Just saying. If you don't want to pay for an A4 or MAWL (or D2 for non-tactical), this is probably the best you're gonna get besides a used PEQ-15, PEQ-2/2A, or DBAL-A2 (PEQ-15A), or the rare class-3b DBAL-I2. Of which, buy from a reputable source or it could be stolen goods.

If you want a warranty, the D2, A4, or MAWL are the best ticket. Ivan may support his customers, and I genuinely hope he does and I truly want these to be a great success, but good luck if he doesn't.

I hope I don't sound to negative. Just trying to be realistic.
Link Posted: 12/26/2018 7:53:04 PM EST
Link Posted: 12/26/2018 9:35:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe:

In theory, since they aren't US made, you shouldn't run into the issue you do with class-iii units.

That said, how do you expect to be able to take advantage of warranty? Once they're state-side, you can't re-export them without running afoul of ITAR.
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It’s not a US product, would itar even apply?
Link Posted: 12/26/2018 9:42:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By NVjunkie:

It's not a US product, would itar even apply?
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If it had a US designed anything in it, then it would need an exemption.

Zenitco doesn't show up on the EAR list or CSS search. You'd have to write Customs to get a real opinion.
Link Posted: 12/26/2018 10:17:16 PM EST
In all honesty for the price that it is I wouldn’t bother with a warranty and risking losing it in the mail.

If you want good product support, don’t order something from Russia. Get something from a reputable US manufacturer.
Link Posted: 12/26/2018 10:32:22 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/26/2018 10:44:55 PM EST by alemonkey]
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Originally Posted By 2JokersWild:
Damn that Perst-1 looks like a steal if you just want a stand alone powerful IR laser. How big is the dot on these? Wouldnt be so good if the dot is 3 yards across at 100 yards....
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@2JokersWild

I would guess 4 MOA maybe? I've only looked at mine a couple times, haven't had a chance to shoot with it yet. It's plenty small enough for shooting out to 2-300 yards, I'd say. I haven't pointed it at anything further than that.
Link Posted: 12/26/2018 10:34:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By NSFJojo:
If it had a US designed anything in it, then it would need an exemption.

Zenitco doesn't show up on the EAR list or CSS search. You'd have to write Customs to get a real opinion.
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Originally Posted By NVjunkie:

It's not a US product, would itar even apply?
If it had a US designed anything in it, then it would need an exemption.

Zenitco doesn't show up on the EAR list or CSS search. You'd have to write Customs to get a real opinion.
Please don't, we don't need these attracting the attention of the Feds.
Link Posted: 12/26/2018 10:58:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By mzincamo:
In all honesty for the price that it is I wouldn't bother with a warranty and risking losing it in the mail.

If you want good product support, don't order something from Russia. Get something from a reputable US manufacturer.
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Except, as pointed out earlier, nothing in the "non civilian" power ranges would have a warranty anyways. As a civilian the Russian option at least might have a warranty....Which means you would actually be better off buying the Russian version than the American products!
Link Posted: 12/26/2018 10:59:09 PM EST
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Originally Posted By alemonkey:
@2JokersWild

I would guess 4 MOA maybe? I've only looked at mine a couple times, haven't had a chance to shoot with it yet. It's plenty small enough for shooting out to 2-300 yards, I'd say. I haven't pointed it at anything further than that.
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Oh yeah 4 MOA is definitely usable. Thanks!
Link Posted: 12/26/2018 11:05:46 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
In theory, since they aren't US made, you shouldn't run into the issue you do with class-iii units.

That said, how do you expect to be able to take advantage of warranty? Once they're state-side, you can't re-export them without running afoul of ITAR.
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Originally Posted By SpyHawk:
Folks talking about warranty support. You know, if you buy a class-3b U.S.-made laser, even if you buy it legally, it won't have a warranty either since the manufacturers won't support private owners.

Just saying. If you don't want to pay for an A4 or MAWL (or D2 for non-tactical), this is probably the best you're gonna get besides a used PEQ-15, PEQ-2/2A, or DBAL-A2 (PEQ-15A), or the rare class-3b DBAL-I2. Of which, buy from a reputable source or it could be stolen goods.

If you want a warranty, the D2, A4, or MAWL are the best ticket. Ivan may support his customers, and I genuinely hope he does and I truly want these to be a great success, but good luck if he doesn't.

I hope I don't sound to negative. Just trying to be realistic.
In theory, since they aren't US made, you shouldn't run into the issue you do with class-iii units.

That said, how do you expect to be able to take advantage of warranty? Once they're state-side, you can't re-export them without running afoul of ITAR.
I don't know that that applies Joe. It wasn't made here. I think ITAR is irrelevant to these
Link Posted: 12/26/2018 11:38:36 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 2JokersWild:
Oh yeah 4 MOA is definitely usable. Thanks!
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Originally Posted By alemonkey:
@2JokersWild

I would guess 4 MOA maybe? I've only looked at mine a couple times, haven't had a chance to shoot with it yet. It's plenty small enough for shooting out to 2-300 yards, I'd say. I haven't pointed it at anything further than that.
Oh yeah 4 MOA is definitely usable. Thanks!
I almost think it's 2 moa... It's about the same size as my MRO dot... But I'm probably wrong.
Link Posted: 12/26/2018 11:42:02 PM EST
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Also, this fucking switch is goddamn huge. I'm not sure yet how I'm gonna lay this thing out...
Link Posted: 12/27/2018 12:19:32 PM EST
Just throwing this here:



My buddy and I each have one of these. They are pretty awesome. Adjustable power for visible laser, IR laser, and IR illuminator. On high power the IR laser and illuminators are absolute flamethrowers. It's like having an invisible light saber. On low power and with the diffuser cap installed it works great indoors.

The quality is good but not perfect. You can see that there is a lot of handwork involved with assembling these. They are built like a tank, and because of this they are heavy.

Overall I'm very happy with the purchase, and would recommend these. Just be careful because they are NOT eye safe and you can easily damage your eyes or night vision. It's not just about having good muzzle discipline because you also need to account for reflections.
Link Posted: 12/27/2018 4:56:54 PM EST
Usually I'd say fuck the LIF, but...
Link Posted: 12/28/2018 9:44:58 AM EST
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Here's the other one:



Running a Surefire M600DF on an Arisaka inline scout mount. There's not enough clearance for an offset scout mount, but I think this looks pretty good.

The nice thing about these units is that they have an integrated pic rail mount, so they sit pretty low on the rail. Compared to my Steiner OTAL these sit about 3/8" lower (estimating, haven't actually measured).

EDIT: Anyone know why my picture is showing up as a link? I used the "img" tags...
Link Posted: 12/28/2018 10:47:11 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Type7SOT:

EDIT: Anyone know why my picture is showing up as a link? I used the "img" tags...
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You need 50 posts to show pics. I hit approve on them.

Sits nice and low on the rail. I like that
Link Posted: 12/28/2018 10:47:46 AM EST
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Originally Posted By mzincamo:

You need 50 posts to show pics. I hit approve on them.
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Ah, I screwed it up again editing my post. Sorry :(
Link Posted: 12/28/2018 4:42:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Type7SOT:

Ah, I screwed it up again editing my post. Sorry :(
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No worries, I can see it just fine. Thanks for providing good content!
Link Posted: 12/28/2018 5:53:07 PM EST
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No worries, I can see it just fine. Thanks for providing good content!
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Ah, I screwed it up again editing my post. Sorry :(
No worries, I can see it just fine. Thanks for providing good content!
+1

I’m trying not to spend the $$ I have in hand, otherwise I’d be a buyer today (I’m saving toward DUALS).
Link Posted: 12/28/2018 8:50:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By mzincamo:
In all honesty for the price that it is I wouldn’t bother with a warranty and risking losing it in the mail.

If you want good product support, don’t order something from Russia. Get something from a reputable US manufacturer.
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The problem is there's no good civilian IR lasers out there. The MAWL is the closest to it, and it has issues that an item that expensive shouldn't have.

That's the big reason I posted this thread, to explore other options.
Link Posted: 12/28/2018 9:02:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Nameless_Hobo:

The problem is there's no good civilian IR lasers out there. The MAWL is the closest to it, and it has issues that an item that expensive shouldn't have.

That's the big reason I posted this thread, to explore other options.
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Known issues with the MAWL? Please let us all know.
Link Posted: 12/28/2018 9:19:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By NVjunkie:
Known issues with the MAWL? Please let us all know.
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Originally Posted By NVjunkie:
Originally Posted By Nameless_Hobo:

The problem is there's no good civilian IR lasers out there. The MAWL is the closest to it, and it has issues that an item that expensive shouldn't have.

That's the big reason I posted this thread, to explore other options.
Known issues with the MAWL? Please let us all know.
+1. What issues?
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 1:39:45 AM EST
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+1. What issues?
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Originally Posted By NVjunkie:
Originally Posted By Nameless_Hobo:

The problem is there's no good civilian IR lasers out there. The MAWL is the closest to it, and it has issues that an item that expensive shouldn't have.

That's the big reason I posted this thread, to explore other options.
Known issues with the MAWL? Please let us all know.
+1. What issues?
Count me in. I also haven't heard of any. Other than the price.
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 9:40:31 AM EST
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+1. What issues?
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Interested partyhere as well. So was my MAWL acquisition a bad one now?
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 9:38:57 PM EST
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The need to spend $460 bucks for a threaded endcap (if you've already bought it, or spend 2 or 300 more when you buy it initially), BE Meyer's customer service (see above, they put out a faulty product then instead of making it right, expect you to spend nearly $500 to have a usable unit), and the plastic selector switch mounted in plastic are the biggest issues, coming from guys I know that own several of them and use them in duty capacities.
They're no doubt the "best" on the civilian market currently, but I'm reluctant to spend that much money on a product that has such problems. With C1 lasers you're more paying for what kind of bullshit you're willing to deal with than what is really the best, it still looks like sucking it up and buying a MAWL is the best option for a really good performing unit, honestly.

To be fair, I've only heard rumors of the selector switch breaking off, so that may not be a real concern.
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 10:03:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Nameless_Hobo:
The need to spend $460 bucks for a threaded endcap (if you've already bought it, or spend 2 or 300 more when you buy it initially), BE Meyer's customer service (see above, they put out a faulty product then instead of making it right, expect you to spend nearly $500 to have a usable unit), and the plastic selector switch mounted in plastic are the biggest issues, coming from guys I know that own several of them and use them in duty capacities.
They're no doubt the "best" on the civilian market currently, but I'm reluctant to spend that much money on a product that has such problems. With C1 lasers you're more paying for what kind of bullshit you're willing to deal with than what is really the best, it still looks like sucking it up and buying a MAWL is the best option for a really good performing unit, honestly.

To be fair, I've only heard rumors of the selector switch breaking off, so that may not be a real concern.
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@brodband8 have you heard of these issues? I know you k ow pretty much everything about them....
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 10:10:02 PM EST
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@brodband8 have you heard of these issues? I know you k ow pretty much everything about them....
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Originally Posted By Nameless_Hobo:
The need to spend $460 bucks for a threaded endcap (if you've already bought it, or spend 2 or 300 more when you buy it initially), BE Meyer's customer service (see above, they put out a faulty product then instead of making it right, expect you to spend nearly $500 to have a usable unit), and the plastic selector switch mounted in plastic are the biggest issues, coming from guys I know that own several of them and use them in duty capacities.
They're no doubt the "best" on the civilian market currently, but I'm reluctant to spend that much money on a product that has such problems. With C1 lasers you're more paying for what kind of bullshit you're willing to deal with than what is really the best, it still looks like sucking it up and buying a MAWL is the best option for a really good performing unit, honestly.

To be fair, I've only heard rumors of the selector switch breaking off, so that may not be a real concern.
@brodband8 have you heard of these issues? I know you k ow pretty much everything about them....
I have not seen this firsthand with the selector switch so I can't speak for that unfortunately. We did use the mawl for the Geissele drop test twice and it seemed to hold up fine.

As for the threaded endcap, yeah it is kind of expensive, and offers additional pressure switch ports which I have really never found a need for and get in the way of things more than anything. The only good thing that comes from that end cap is the ability to be able to swap batteries on the fly without tools and not have to worry about potentially losing zero on the unit, (even though its a non issue if you just mark your screws with paint pen beforehand and return to their original locations.) Also, I didn't feel the sting of the $460 as I paid the upgrade charge of $100 to get a unit with the new style endcap instead of buying it separately.

Can you send me a source for the broken switch claims? I'm genuinely interested to find out more about that.
Link Posted: 12/30/2018 12:16:11 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Nameless_Hobo:
The need to spend $460 bucks for a threaded endcap (if you've already bought it, or spend 2 or 300 more when you buy it initially), BE Meyer's customer service (see above, they put out a faulty product then instead of making it right, expect you to spend nearly $500 to have a usable unit), and the plastic selector switch mounted in plastic are the biggest issues, coming from guys I know that own several of them and use them in duty capacities.
They're no doubt the "best" on the civilian market currently, but I'm reluctant to spend that much money on a product that has such problems. With C1 lasers you're more paying for what kind of bullshit you're willing to deal with than what is really the best, it still looks like sucking it up and buying a MAWL is the best option for a really good performing unit, honestly.

To be fair, I've only heard rumors of the selector switch breaking off, so that may not be a real concern.
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Thank you for the info. I have to respectfully disagree about the best for civilians though. Most civi’s I know don’t “need” the quick switching illuminator so the D2 is still the best all around bang for the buck civi lam.

Two way range? Professionals. Yes. Absolutely. The MAWL (or a4 v2)
Link Posted: 12/30/2018 9:06:31 AM EST
You guys with the perst-3. how true is the co-aligned visible laser? Can you confirm they are "trued up"?
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You guys with the perst-3. how true is the co-aligned visible laser? Can you confirm they are "trued up"?
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That’s a good question. We just got these about two weeks ago and I haven’t even sighted them in yet. I’ll take a look tonight and report back.

EDIT: Well, I'm a little disappointed to report the visible laser is off of the IR laser by about 1/4" at 20 feet. That equates to 3.75" at 100 yards if my math is correct. Oh well, I don't expect to be using the visible laser at long range anyway.

Edit again: Actually, I think thats normal. The visible and IR lasers are about 1/4" apart to begin with. So presumably they will be 1/4" apart at every distance. Crisis averted I guess?

Just played around with this again in the backyard. I must say, this thing works great! The illuminator really punches through the darkness. I'm gonna try to get some beam shots tonight.
Link Posted: 12/30/2018 8:04:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By brodband8:

I have not seen this firsthand with the selector switch so I can't speak for that unfortunately. We did use the mawl for the Geissele drop test twice and it seemed to hold up fine.

As for the threaded endcap, yeah it is kind of expensive, and offers additional pressure switch ports which I have really never found a need for and get in the way of things more than anything. The only good thing that comes from that end cap is the ability to be able to swap batteries on the fly without tools and not have to worry about potentially losing zero on the unit, (even though its a non issue if you just mark your screws with paint pen beforehand and return to their original locations.) Also, I didn't feel the sting of the $460 as I paid the upgrade charge of $100 to get a unit with the new style endcap instead of buying it separately.

Can you send me a source for the broken switch claims? I'm genuinely interested to find out more about that.
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I’ll have to ask the third party I discussed it with if he will contact you to talk about it. I’m operating off of discussions with a guy whose opinion I respect, I don’t have data compiled, sorry. He still recommends the MAWL for people with certain applications, however, so I wouldn’t say it’s a total condemnation.

And regarding “best,” I should specify best performing, not necessarily best bang for the buck.
Link Posted: 12/30/2018 8:24:35 PM EST
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Excellent. Very interested in seeing the pics and hearing your thoughts. Don't suppose you could compare it to an unrestricted PEQ15 (either side by side or from memory)?
Link Posted: 12/30/2018 8:59:09 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 556NAT0:

Excellent. Very interested in seeing the pics and hearing your thoughts. Don't suppose you could compare it to an unrestricted PEQ15 (either side by side or from memory)?
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I have no experience with PEQ15’s unfortunately. The only thing I have to compare it to is my Steiner OTAL-C IR laser which is 0.7mW.

Either way, I’m sure the beamshots will be helpful.
Link Posted: 12/30/2018 9:34:47 PM EST
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So I got some beamshots. Let me start by saying, I really considered not posting this because the photos look nothing like what I saw through the tube. I just couldn't get the phone to adjust well to the lighting conditions. But, I'll post them anyway and just make some notes about what I saw.

Tonight was VERY dark, no moon whatsoever although the sky was clear. Trees are 80 yards away.

First pic is IR laser only, on low:



Next is IR laser only, medium:



Next is IR laser only, high (bloom was not quite as bad in person):



Next is illuminator only, medium. Not sure what it doesn't look round in this pic, in person its perfectly circular. Also, the phone makes it look washed out. But in person everything inside that circle is perfectly crisp and bright:



In an attempt to recreate what my eye was seeing, I zoomed in with my phone and adjusted the brightness until it didn't appear washed out. Problem is, now its pixelated from my phone's poor resolution. Also, I turned the laser on one notch above low:



Here is basically the same thing as above, but with the laser on high:



Again, these image look like absolute garbage compared to what I saw. I don't think my iPhone 6 is really suitable for taking these pictures. Something with higher resolution and adjustable iris would do a much better job.
Link Posted: 12/30/2018 10:04:24 PM EST
Also FYI I'm using the terms "low, medium and high" pretty loosely. The lasers and illuminator have 5 different levels of intensity. I'm calling position 1 low, positions 2-4 are medium, and position 5 is high.

The cool thing is you can adjust all of the levels independently. The way you do it is a little weird, but it's effective.

When you are on IR laser + illuminator, the adjustment only affects the illuminator intensity. The laser stays the same. If you want to change the laser intensity, you have to switch to IR laser only, make your adjustment, and then switch back to laser + illum. This may seem weird, but I actually like it. When I'm running them together, I typically don't want to increase the laser intensity anyway. I like running the laser one notch above low under all conditions (indoors and out), and only adjust the illuminator power as needed.

If there is ever a time when I'm running laser + illum and for some reason I want to crank the laser, it's not a big deal to switch to the laser only and make my adjustment.

Whatever settings you use on each position, the unit remembers them as you switch back and forth and cycle the unit on and off.
Link Posted: 12/30/2018 10:54:46 PM EST
Very interesting, I am definitely going to have to pick one up, the photos look good to my unexperienced eye. Thanks for doing that!
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Also FYI I'm using the terms "low, medium and high" pretty loosely. The lasers and illuminator have 5 different levels of intensity. I'm calling position 1 low, positions 2-4 are medium, and position 5 is high.

The cool thing is you can adjust all of the levels independently. The way you do it is a little weird, but it's effective.

When you are on IR laser + illuminator, the adjustment only affects the illuminator intensity. The laser stays the same. If you want to change the laser intensity, you have to switch to IR laser only, make your adjustment, and then switch back to laser + illum. This may seem weird, but I actually like it. When I'm running them together, I typically don't want to increase the laser intensity anyway. I like running the laser one notch above low under all conditions (indoors and out), and only adjust the illuminator power as needed.

If there is ever a time when I'm running laser + illum and for some reason I want to crank the laser, it's not a big deal to switch to the laser only and make my adjustment.

Whatever settings you use on each position, the unit remembers them as you switch back and forth and cycle the unit on and off.
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That looks awesome. If my other things fall through, I’ll be buying.
Link Posted: 12/31/2018 10:55:11 AM EST
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What exactly do you think a LIF would do for you with regards to these lasers?
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What exactly do you think a LIF would do for you with regards to these lasers?
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What exactly do you think a LIF would do for you with regards to these lasers?
Maybe he's getting the green laser version :P

But on a serious note, those look pretty awesome. Would have loved to see an illuminator pic at, say a couple hundred yards.

I may have to get one too.
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So I just realized on my Perst-1 if I double tap the tape switch it goes into a slow flashing mode. Should be helpful when shooting with someone else. I didn't know since the manual was in Russian
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So I just realized on my Perst-1 if I double tap the tape switch it goes into a slow flashing mode. Should be helpful when shooting with someone else. I didn't know since the manual was in Russian
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How do you like it? It looks pretty cool, but I can’t figure out from pictures where the laser is emitted from, lol.
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How do you like it? It looks pretty cool, but I can't figure out from pictures where the laser is emitted from, lol.
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So I just realized on my Perst-1 if I double tap the tape switch it goes into a slow flashing mode. Should be helpful when shooting with someone else. I didn't know since the manual was in Russian
How do you like it? It looks pretty cool, but I can't figure out from pictures where the laser is emitted from, lol.
Haven't had a chance to shoot with it yet but hoping to this weekend. The laser emits from the lower right corner as you are standing behind it. ETA: This assumes it's mounted on the top of the handguard.

It seems pretty well made but a little clunky. You can tell it's Russian. It just barely sits low enough to mount in front of the front sight and still have a useable picture with irons. I had to switch my red dot to a lower 1/3 mount otherwise it took up too much of the field of vision. Zeroing is kind of a PITA, you need a hex wrench. I just looked through my red dot at something about 300 yards away and adjusted the laser to the same point. For the money I think it's a great deal, as long as it holds zero.

I'll try to get a picture tomorrow when I'm packing up to go hunting.
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Originally Posted By alemonkey:
Haven't had a chance to shoot with it yet but hoping to this weekend. The laser emits from the lower right corner as you are standing behind it.

It seems pretty well made but a little clunky. You can tell it's Russian. It just barely sits low enough to mount in front of the front sight and still have a useable picture with irons. I had to switch my red dot to a lower 1/3 mount otherwise it took up too much of the field of vision. Zeroing is kind of a PITA, you need a hex wrench. I just looked through my red dot at something about 300 yards away and adjusted the laser to the same point. For the money I think it's a great deal, as long as it holds zero.

I'll try to get a picture tomorrow when I'm packing up to go hunting.
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Originally Posted By alemonkey:
Originally Posted By mzincamo:
Originally Posted By alemonkey:
So I just realized on my Perst-1 if I double tap the tape switch it goes into a slow flashing mode. Should be helpful when shooting with someone else. I didn't know since the manual was in Russian
How do you like it? It looks pretty cool, but I can't figure out from pictures where the laser is emitted from, lol.
Haven't had a chance to shoot with it yet but hoping to this weekend. The laser emits from the lower right corner as you are standing behind it.

It seems pretty well made but a little clunky. You can tell it's Russian. It just barely sits low enough to mount in front of the front sight and still have a useable picture with irons. I had to switch my red dot to a lower 1/3 mount otherwise it took up too much of the field of vision. Zeroing is kind of a PITA, you need a hex wrench. I just looked through my red dot at something about 300 yards away and adjusted the laser to the same point. For the money I think it's a great deal, as long as it holds zero.

I'll try to get a picture tomorrow when I'm packing up to go hunting.
Uh, US made IR lasers sit so high that they take up a large portion of FOV when mounted on lower 1/3 mounts.

The 1.93” mounts were designed (in part) to alleviate this issue.
Link Posted: 1/3/2019 8:21:24 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/3/2019 8:22:00 AM EST by mzincamo]
Yeah most stuff gets in the way of an absolute cowitness mount, so that doesn’t bother me too much. Although it sounds like it has some decent functionality.

It’s tempting to get the 1 over the 4 because of the super low cost.
Link Posted: 1/3/2019 9:12:24 AM EST
Check out the ZenitCo 2IKS+ which is an IR laser and IR illuminator (LED type) for $275. Looks like its more of a pistol form factor but I suppose you could use it on a rifle.
Link Posted: 1/3/2019 10:03:27 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Type7SOT:
Check out the ZenitCo 2IKS+ which is an IR laser and IR illuminator (LED type) for $275. Looks like its more of a pistol form factor but I suppose you could use it on a rifle.
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That's kind of interesting. I didn't see that one before. I wish it wasn't LED based but sheesh that's affordable.
Link Posted: 1/3/2019 11:15:55 AM EST
HERE is a good thread page with some pics, info and video from Ivan.
Link Posted: 1/3/2019 12:18:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GripnAK47s:
HERE is a good thread page with some pics, info and video from Ivan.
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The videos that he linked are really a good look at the lasers and some of the other units.

Also, the training facility looks really cool.
Link Posted: 1/4/2019 11:47:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By NVjunkie:

Known issues with the MAWL? Please let us all know.
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Yea, it's to damn expensive.
Link Posted: 1/21/2019 7:51:57 PM EST
What is the rear circle knob on the back of the pressure switch?
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