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Paper Form 4 individual
Silencerco Sparrow .22 SilencerCo Saker 7.62 Purchase - 6/9/2018 (give or take a week) Dealer called saying I can pick them up: 4/26/2019 Wait time: Approx 321 days. |
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Form 4 trust
ATF received/check cashed 1/26/2018 Approved 4/18/2019 At dealer 4/29/2019 Examiner: Carrie Fisher Dates are correct. I spoke with my examiner personally after trying to check on it and apparently the ATF's lawyers decided to change the definition of "responsible person" to include successor trustees so had to acquire their prints and photos as well. Just a heads up to those who have a trust pending |
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Originally Posted By jparish62:
Form 4 trust ATF received/check cashed 1/26/2018 Approved 4/18/2019 At dealer 4/29/2019 Examiner: Carrie Fisher Dates are correct. I spoke with my examiner personally after trying to check on it and apparently the ATF's lawyers decided to change the definition of "responsible person" to include successor trustees so had to acquire their prints and photos as well. Just a heads up to those who have a trust pending How far along in the process were you when you found out you needed additional RPQs for successor trustees? Did they pro-actively contact you or did you get lucky when checking in? For my trust successor trustees have no authority, no more than a beneficiary, so I'll be pissed if they pull this arbitrary bullshit going forward. Has anyone else seen this change in interpretation of Responsible Person? |
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Originally Posted By KalmanPhilter:
@jparish62 How far along in the process were you when you found out you needed additional RPQs for successor trustees? Did they pro-actively contact you or did you get lucky when checking in? For my trust successor trustees have no authority, no more than a beneficiary, so I'll be pissed if they pull this arbitrary bullshit going forward. Has anyone else seen this change in interpretation of Responsible Person? Originally Posted By KalmanPhilter:
Originally Posted By jparish62:
Form 4 trust ATF received/check cashed 1/26/2018 Approved 4/18/2019 At dealer 4/29/2019 Examiner: Carrie Fisher Dates are correct. I spoke with my examiner personally after trying to check on it and apparently the ATF's lawyers decided to change the definition of "responsible person" to include successor trustees so had to acquire their prints and photos as well. Just a heads up to those who have a trust pending How far along in the process were you when you found out you needed additional RPQs for successor trustees? Did they pro-actively contact you or did you get lucky when checking in? For my trust successor trustees have no authority, no more than a beneficiary, so I'll be pissed if they pull this arbitrary bullshit going forward. Has anyone else seen this change in interpretation of Responsible Person? My successor trustee didn't either in mine. Literally all they were was a holding party until my beneficiaries were of age. Nothing more. It may be in your best interests to check in on it |
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This was a two stamp out of state transfer through a silencer shop powers dealer.
Form 4: individual seller to dealer. Pending: 2/6/18 Approved 5/15/18 Form 4: dealer to individual buyer Form Type: Form 4 (MG) Transferee: Individual Pending: 06/7/2018 Approved: 04/26/2019 Dealer Received: 5/7/19 Standardized wait: 335 days State: TX |
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Form 4 Silencer Shop Single Shot Trust(s) with 1 Responsible Person 1 Obsidian 45 1 Razor 762 Purchased: 3/21/2018 Form 4: (Single Shot): Tax Stamp Cashed on 4/20/2018 Form 3: Disposed to Dealer On 4/24/2018 Pending FBI Background Check: 12/14/2018 Verified with Examiner via phone Approved: 4/29/2019 Stamp In Hand 5/10/2019 Total Time: 1 year, 1 month, 19 days (415 days) |
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F4 Trust x1 RP
Pending 7/26/18 Approved 5/13/19 Days 291 WA Silencershop SDN6 F4 Trust x1 RP Pending 7/30/18 Approved 5/13/19 Days 287 WA Silencershop Sandman-K Contacted an ATF director on 5/11/19 asking what's the hold up on my pending applications. My two previous F4's from 2019 were approved within 270 days or less. He expedited my pending applications to an examiner who approved them on the Monday 5/13/19. I have a unique name, ultra clean record, and various documentations/security clearences held with TSA/DHS if that adds anything or not. |
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Form 4 Trust (silencer shop Kiosk)
Wolf 9SD Feb 28, 2018 (Order placed on SS website) March 6, 2018 (Paperwork reviewed and completed by SS) March 6, 2018 (Document ready to be signed arrives in my email) March 18, 2018 (Application received by ATF - CHECK CASHED) March 20, 2018 (Form 3: Disposed to Dealer) March 27, 2018 (Single shot trust documents arrive in email) 8/13/2018 Arial - Application is "Pending" 10/1/2018 Pending FBI background check 02/21/2019 Daffany - Still pending 4/28/2019 Stamp Approved 5/10/2019 ATF mails Approved Stamp (as printed on envelope) 5/16/2019 Call from FFL to pick up 429 days from checked cashed to FFL pickup |
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Received email today.
Trust - 2 RP, me and my son. Hybrid from BOGO promotion Mailed 7/3/18 Pending 7/27/18 Stamp at dealer - 5/16/19 GET THIS! Free Octane 9 from promotion Mailed F4 - 12/21/18 Pending - Never Called Stamp at dealer - 5/16/2019 Update - I have 14 cans in my truck. 8 F4's from July 18 and 6 BOGO freebies on F4's from December. Thee different trusts - 4, 3, &2 RP's. Batched approvals. |
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4x Form 4 & 1x Form 1 (all paper submissions)
Mailed: 10/9/18 Check Cashed: 10/16/18 Approved: 5/5/19 (208 days) 3x Form 4 & 1x Form 1 (all paper submissions) Mailed: 3/1/19 Credit Card Charged: 3/6/19 Approved (3 of 4): 5/5/19 (65 days) |
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Form 4 trust, purchased through silencer shop, and my ffl silencer shop powered dealer
Got 13 stamps in Friday’s mail- dated from 6-18 to 1-19 All 13 in separate envelopes, postmarked the same day I’m still in shock- but I can’t stop grinning Think I’ll go buy a lottery ticket Attached File |
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Originally Posted By 402joel:
Form 4 trust, purchased through silencer shop, and my ffl silencer shop powered dealer Got 13 stamps in Friday's mail- dated from 6-18 to 1-19 All 13 in separate envelopes, postmarked the same day I'm still in shock- but I can't stop grinning Think I'll go buy a lottery ticket https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/243712/2BA9BD5C-9E17-45DF-A833-95D0CE414629_jpeg-949654.JPG Purchased from May 2018 through November 2018, all approved May 5th 2019 by the same examiner (Listed as NCHARTSOC but the signature reads Anthony something or other). All were a combination of individual and trust. I did both to see which would come back faster but they all ended up the same Pending: May 10: Ghost M - Capitol Armory August 13: YHM Resonator - Silencer Shop/Primary Arms August 24: Sandman S - LGS August 27: Larue Tranquillo - F3 Transfer Silencershop September 17: Sandman K #2 - Capitol Armory September 17: Sandman K #3 - Capitol Armory September 18: Rugged Micro 30 - Capitol Armory October 1: TBAC Ultra 5 - Capitol Armory November 1: Sandman K - Silencer Shop/Primary ArmsNovember 1: Omega 9k - Silencer Shop/Primary Arms November 1: DA Mask - Silencer Shop/Primary Arms November 1: Wolf 9SD - Silencer Shop/Primary Arms February 18: Omega 9k - LGS Approved: All May 5th 2019 Capitol Armory mentioned that the ATF appears to be doing batch processing now, when your name comes up they check and see if anything else is pending and approve them all at once. Seems true enough ![]()
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Originally Posted By mdavis:
4x Form 4 & 1x Form 1 (all paper submissions) Mailed: 10/9/18 Check Cashed: 10/16/18 Approved: 5/5/19 (208 days) 3x Form 4 & 1x Form 1 (all paper submissions) Mailed: 3/1/19 Credit Card Charged: 3/6/19 Approved (3 of 4): 5/5/19 (65 days) |
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Form 4 Individual Paper, (2) Silencers
Purchased: 6/12/18 Prints Arrived: 7/12/18 Approved : 5/23/19 Post Marked: 6/3/19 Stamp Arrived: 6/8/19 Total wait: 361 days State: IN ---------------------------------------------- So much for batch approval, I still have 7 pending from 8/18-1/19. If anyone has any idea who I would contact regarding a batch approval, please let me know. |
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Form 4 individual paper.
1-12-18 mailed form 4 1-23-18 check cashed 8-23-18 status check and was told it was "in process". 8-24-18 called and was told pending FBI background 3-19-19 called and was told still pending FBI background. Spoke with examiner and was told FBI was currently processing background checks from 7-18 and could be several more months. 5-15-19 form was approved 5-24-19 form was at dealer and picked up can. From mailbox to mailbox 497 days or 16.33 months. |
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Silencer Shop individual Purchased: 6/16/18 Stamp cashed: 7/11/18 Pending: 7/13/18 Approved: 5/30/19 320 days pending to approved Stamp to dealer: June 7th |
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Originally Posted By OAK667:
Form 4 Individual Paper, (2) Silencers Purchased: 6/12/18 Prints Arrived: 7/12/18 Approved : 5/23/19 Stamp Arrived: ?/?/?? Standardized wait: 315 days State: IN ---------------------------------------------- So much for batch approval, I still have 7 pending from 8/18-1/19. If anyone has any idea who I would contact regarding a batch approval, please let me know. |
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Originally Posted By Bowhntr6pt:
Individual Form 4 YHM LT .30 Silencer Shop Kiosk Check Cashed 7-24-19 Approved 5-30-19 Stamp at Dealer ? Surefire SOCOM RC SS kiosk Check cashed 07/07/18 Approved 05/30/19 Stamp received 06/14/19 |
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Originally Posted By searchin4shacks:
Form 4 2 suppressors from Silencer Shop on 2 person trust purchased: 6/11/2018 Check Cashed: 7/11/2018 Approved: 5/25/2019 Received: 6/3/2019 So almost 1 year from purchase. Purchased: 06/10/2018 Check cashed: 07/10/2018 Approved: ?? At dealer: 06/07/2019 Time to bow out of this thread for a while. |
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UPDATE
Individual form 4 through Silencer Shop. Purchased 8/20/2018 Check cashed 9/6/2018 I never called to get a pending date Approved 5/23/2019 FFL Dealer called me 6/6/2019 and said that he had received my approved paperwork. 259 days from check cashed to approved. 290 days from purchased to arrival at the dealer. |
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