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Posted: 7/8/2015 12:09:32 PM EDT
Help me design homemade armor that is cheap and practical. Every few years, the leftist control freaks float the idea of an armor ban but if we can demonstrate that someone can build something just as effective, if a bit less comfortable with $20 of supplies from Home Depot, it takes a lot of the wind out of their sails. I'd like to hear your ideas on what we can do to make a lighter, cheaper, better plate.
Link for phones that, like, totally don't even Flash. Here is Royal Nonesuch's contribution to the project:
Link for phones This is the thread that gave me the idea in the first place. |
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A ceramic is an inorganic non-metallic solid made up of either metal or non-metal compounds that have been shaped and then hardened by heating to high temperatures. In general, they are hard, corrosion-resistant and brittle. The problem here is people dont understand that not all "ceramics" are created equal. A clay ceramic floor tile is not in the same ball park of strength as say a boron carbine ceramic used in modern ballistic rifle plates. Creating body armor from supplies in your home or that is available at a big box store is a neat concept and will make a excellent post on some SHTF blog but serves no purpose for modern safety and ballistics gear. if sheet metal and clay tiles were that impressive home depot would be supplying body armor to our troops, instead it takes highly skilled engineers thousands of hours of research and testing to develop the armor our soldiers use. |
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Actually, it takes skilled engineers and specialized materials to reduce bulk and weight. Stopping a bullet isn't very difficult. Watch the video(s). I managed to stop multiple rifle rounds with floor tiles and bed liner.
Also, the porcelain used in high traffic floor tiles shares a lot of material qualities with the boron CARBIDE used in SAPI plates. |
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Actually, it takes skilled engineers and specialized materials to reduce bulk and weight. Stopping a bullet isn't very difficult. Watch the video(s). I managed to stop multiple rifle rounds with floor tiles and bed liner. Also, the porcelain used in high traffic floor tiles shares a lot of material qualities with the boron CARBIDE used in SAPI plates. Oh? Other than being "ceramic", which qualities? |
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Both are much harder than lead, copper, or steel.
Other properties that are less relevant to armor use but they nevertheless share: non-magnetic, brittle. Probably others, but the important b it is the hardness. Now, boron carbide is harder than porcelain floor tile, of course, but the porcelain floor tile is a lot cheaper. That said, I spent have said "a lot". I should have just said that both materials are hard, and that is part of how a bullet is stopped. |
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Do a fiberglass layup with your bathroom tile and infuse the hell out of the glass with resin of some sort. Use several plies in front of the tile too to help with support. Don't skimp on curing the resin. The cheap level 4 plates that I can make here at work are Al2O3 tiles with several plies of a laminated woven aramid. Cut aramid to shape, layup with tile, bag, vacuum and cook, then coat with polyurea. Total cost of material and consumables is $60. CHRIS |
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I've seen alot videos on YouTube, that showed people making homemade plates. They seem to work. I wouldn't want to see with factory made or homemade. But I guess if that's all you have. I was surprised when I saw that they do work. Yeah they stop pistol rounds but so will a telephone book or a inch or two of hard wood, both of which would prob be lighter than layers of steel sheeting and floor tiles |
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Yeah they stop pistol rounds but so will a telephone book or a inch or two of hard wood, both of which would prob be lighter than layers of steel sheeting and floor tiles Quoted:
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I've seen alot videos on YouTube, that showed people making homemade plates. They seem to work. I wouldn't want to see with factory made or homemade. But I guess if that's all you have. I was surprised when I saw that they do work. Yeah they stop pistol rounds but so will a telephone book or a inch or two of hard wood, both of which would prob be lighter than layers of steel sheeting and floor tiles This is my original hillbilly body armor. It stopped .223, 7.62x39mm, and multiple rounds of .40 S&W.
As I mentioned above, specialized materials reduces weight significantly, but stopping bullets isn't really all that hard. What I'm looking to do is create a "Sure, dumbass." argument to use any time someone brings up banning body armor. The video above is fairly compelling but I think we can further reduce weight and cost by using steel rather than bed liner. I also want to find a configuration that is simple, easy, cheap, and get confirmation from several users that they were able to replicate the results. This is not intended to be a substitute for "real" armor. It is intended primarily as a political argument against possible bans, and secondarily as a curiosity that might wind up being useful when Skynet takes over. |
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This is not intended to be a substitute for "real" armor. It is intended primarily as a political argument against possible bans, and secondarily as a curiosity that might wind up being useful when Skynet takes over. Michael J. Fox's (Marty McFly's) use of the oven door in BTTFIII demonstrates that. |
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This is my original hillbilly body armor. It stopped .223, 7.62x39mm, and multiple rounds of .40 S&W.  https://youtu.be/SXmyCfB_k5I
As I mentioned above, specialized materials reduces weight significantly, but stopping bullets isn't really all that hard. What I'm looking to do is create a "Sure, dumbass." argument to use any time someone brings up banning body armor. The video above is fairly compelling but I think we can further reduce weight and cost by using steel rather than bed liner. I also want to find a configuration that is simple, easy, cheap, and get confirmation from several users that they were able to replicate the results. This is not intended to be a substitute for "real" armor. It is intended primarily as a political argument against possible bans, and secondarily as a curiosity that might wind up being useful when Skynet takes over. Quoted:
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I've seen alot videos on YouTube, that showed people making homemade plates. They seem to work. I wouldn't want to see with factory made or homemade. But I guess if that's all you have. I was surprised when I saw that they do work. Yeah they stop pistol rounds but so will a telephone book or a inch or two of hard wood, both of which would prob be lighter than layers of steel sheeting and floor tiles This is my original hillbilly body armor. It stopped .223, 7.62x39mm, and multiple rounds of .40 S&W. https://youtu.be/SXmyCfB_k5I
As I mentioned above, specialized materials reduces weight significantly, but stopping bullets isn't really all that hard. What I'm looking to do is create a "Sure, dumbass." argument to use any time someone brings up banning body armor. The video above is fairly compelling but I think we can further reduce weight and cost by using steel rather than bed liner. I also want to find a configuration that is simple, easy, cheap, and get confirmation from several users that they were able to replicate the results. This is not intended to be a substitute for "real" armor. It is intended primarily as a political argument against possible bans, and secondarily as a curiosity that might wind up being useful when Skynet takes over. Cool, awesome video. Good info. |
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This is my original hillbilly body armor. It stopped .223, 7.62x39mm, and multiple rounds of .40 S&W. https://youtu.be/SXmyCfB_k5I
As I mentioned above, specialized materials reduces weight significantly, but stopping bullets isn't really all that hard. What I'm looking to do is create a "Sure, dumbass." argument to use any time someone brings up banning body armor. The video above is fairly compelling but I think we can further reduce weight and cost by using steel rather than bed liner. I also want to find a configuration that is simple, easy, cheap, and get confirmation from several users that they were able to replicate the results. This is not intended to be a substitute for "real" armor. It is intended primarily as a political argument against possible bans, and secondarily as a curiosity that might wind up being useful when Skynet takes over. Quoted:
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I've seen alot videos on YouTube, that showed people making homemade plates. They seem to work. I wouldn't want to see with factory made or homemade. But I guess if that's all you have. I was surprised when I saw that they do work. Yeah they stop pistol rounds but so will a telephone book or a inch or two of hard wood, both of which would prob be lighter than layers of steel sheeting and floor tiles This is my original hillbilly body armor. It stopped .223, 7.62x39mm, and multiple rounds of .40 S&W. https://youtu.be/SXmyCfB_k5I
As I mentioned above, specialized materials reduces weight significantly, but stopping bullets isn't really all that hard. What I'm looking to do is create a "Sure, dumbass." argument to use any time someone brings up banning body armor. The video above is fairly compelling but I think we can further reduce weight and cost by using steel rather than bed liner. I also want to find a configuration that is simple, easy, cheap, and get confirmation from several users that they were able to replicate the results. This is not intended to be a substitute for "real" armor. It is intended primarily as a political argument against possible bans, and secondarily as a curiosity that might wind up being useful when Skynet takes over. Well as far as a political argument goes, anyone who has access to steel plates can easily make armor as well. Just guessing but 3/8 mild steel is prob equal to 1/4 of the ballistic AR500 type steel, so heavier but plenty of people have steel just laying around in their back yard, hell you could go in old abandoned buildings and cut up the steel supports. |
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Michael J. Fox's (Marty McFly's) use of the oven door in BTTFIII demonstrates that. Quoted:
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This is not intended to be a substitute for "real" armor. It is intended primarily as a political argument against possible bans, and secondarily as a curiosity that might wind up being useful when Skynet takes over. Michael J. Fox's (Marty McFly's) use of the oven door in BTTFIII demonstrates that. You do know that wasn't a documentary, right? 
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Well as far as a political argument goes, anyone who has access to steel plates can easily make armor as well. Just guessing but 3/8 mild steel is prob equal to 1/4 of the ballistic AR500 type steel, so heavier but plenty of people have steel just laying around in their back yard, hell you could go in old abandoned buildings and cut up the steel supports. I doubt that 3/8" is enough but that's a fair point. I still think that floor tiles are more readily available. |
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I have an issue with your last video: the "plate" is not restrained at all. A fair amount of the impacting bullet's energy is expended moving the plate out of position instead of giving a realistic showing of the armor's performance as if it were held in place by some sort of carrier against a human body (or hung as vehicle armor).
As a political argument, it won't carry weight to those who are immune to reason, but it might help, and it look like you're enjoying your little science project. Carry on. 
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