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VA, USA
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I'm getting tired of using a powder trickler to weight my charges and am looking at getting an automatic powder dispenser. Which one do you guys like the best?
I'm also considering a Sinclair concentricity gauge, but can't decide between the dial indicator or the digital indicator. Help me decide on the best way to treat myself for Christmas. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 12/11/2013 9:21:56 AM EST
RCBS Charge master. Little over $300 but RCBS still has the $50 rebate going on.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/11/2013 9:42:55 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/11/2013 9:43:07 AM EST by delirious1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Graham2990:
RCBS Charge master. Little over $300 but RCBS still has the $50 rebate going on. agree |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 12/11/2013 9:50:28 AM EST
No issues with the RCBS?
How does it compare to the Hornady? |
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Posted: 12/11/2013 9:53:28 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By SWThomas:
No issues with the RCBS? How does it compare to the Hornady? I have trouble with my Hornady... I would say at least 50% of my charges go over even running on slow. I load to be dead on so maybe I am just being too picky. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/11/2013 10:53:24 AM EST
A few of mine run over on the RCBS but that's not the fault of the machine. More like the fault of using extruded powder. It can't tell the difference between ball and extruded.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 12/11/2013 11:02:12 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By delirious1:
A few of mine run over on the RCBS but that's not the fault of the machine. More like the fault of using extruded powder. It can't tell the difference between ball and extruded. Have you tried the McDonald's straw mod? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/11/2013 11:04:47 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By SWThomas:
Have you tried the McDonald's straw mod? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SWThomas:
Originally Posted By delirious1:
A few of mine run over on the RCBS but that's not the fault of the machine. More like the fault of using extruded powder. It can't tell the difference between ball and extruded. Have you tried the McDonald's straw mod? I read about that but I don't eat at McDonald's. No seriously, It only happens in 1-2 out of 20 loads. Thanks for the reminder. I'll try that. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 12/11/2013 11:09:56 AM EST
I have the Lyman 1200 DPSII. I have loaded several thousand rounds with it from .45ACP, .223. .308 , and never had a problem. This unit is very accurate, consistent, and it has been plugged in and turned on for about three years.
I would get the digital readout concentricity gauge, but I have old eyes. No other reason |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 12/11/2013 11:38:50 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/11/2013 11:42:11 AM EST by Guilty]
Here is a article that the OP might find useful comparing what the writer identifies as the three top-selling automatic powder dispensers on the market.
RCBS ChargeMaster Combo - Lyman 1200 DPS II - PACT Digital Dispenser/Scale - Digital Powder Dispensers Here's another article titled Speed Up Your RCBS ChargeMaster |
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Posted: 12/11/2013 1:57:44 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/11/2013 2:03:56 PM EST by bfoosh06]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Guilty:
Here is a article that the OP might find useful comparing what the writer identifies as the three top-selling automatic powder dispensers on the market. RCBS ChargeMaster Combo - Lyman 1200 DPS II - PACT Digital Dispenser/Scale - Digital Powder Dispensers Here's another article titled Speed Up Your RCBS ChargeMaster Good stuff there. And I'd like to add that the whole being able to speed up the RCBS puts an extra feather in its cap. Whichever one you decide on... you can speed the process up even more by throwing a 3/4ish partial powder throw from your powder measure and let the automatic powder dispenser "top off" the remaining charge. And don't forget the "McDonalds" straw trick ! You might also consider the Hornady Ammunition Concentricity Tool.... you can "adjust" the round right there with the tool. http://www.hornady.com/store/Ammunition-Concentricity-Tool/ |
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Posted: 12/11/2013 2:43:12 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/11/2013 2:44:08 PM EST by Motor1]
Charge Master first) Yes I id the straw mod and it works very well. It will take your 2 in 20 to 2 in 50 and the overage is seldom more than .2gr and this is with IMR-4064 and the other large stick powders.
I also did the speed mod. A conservative one. It's real easy to do sorry I didn't save the You Tube link. Indicator) As a career machinist and QA inspector for part of that time (goin on 30 years) I think a dial version will work much better for reading run out. With the dial indicator its purely a visual thing. You watch how much the needle moves. With the digital you will go nuts trying to see the numbers while they fly by (change rapidly). The dial being totally mechanical is more dependable too. Hope this helps. |
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USA
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Posted: 12/11/2013 3:45:25 PM EST
Originally Posted By SWThomas:
I'm also considering a Sinclair concentricity gauge, but can't decide between the dial indicator or the digital indicator. Help me decide on the best way to treat myself for Christmas. The GEM dial indicator is exactly that, a gem! Get the "analog" dial indicator, the GEM. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 12/11/2013 3:51:10 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By bfoosh06:
Good stuff there. And I'd like to add that the whole being able to speed up the RCBS puts an extra feather in its cap. Whichever one you decide on... you can speed the process up even more by throwing a 3/4ish partial powder throw from your powder measure and let the automatic powder dispenser "top off" the remaining charge. And don't forget the "McDonalds" straw trick ! You might also consider the Hornady Ammunition Concentricity Tool.... you can "adjust" the round right there with the tool. http://www.hornady.com/store/Ammunition-Concentricity-Tool/ Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bfoosh06:
Originally Posted By Guilty:
Here is a article that the OP might find useful comparing what the writer identifies as the three top-selling automatic powder dispensers on the market. RCBS ChargeMaster Combo - Lyman 1200 DPS II - PACT Digital Dispenser/Scale - Digital Powder Dispensers Here's another article titled Speed Up Your RCBS ChargeMaster Good stuff there. And I'd like to add that the whole being able to speed up the RCBS puts an extra feather in its cap. Whichever one you decide on... you can speed the process up even more by throwing a 3/4ish partial powder throw from your powder measure and let the automatic powder dispenser "top off" the remaining charge. And don't forget the "McDonalds" straw trick ! You might also consider the Hornady Ammunition Concentricity Tool.... you can "adjust" the round right there with the tool. http://www.hornady.com/store/Ammunition-Concentricity-Tool/ I considered the Hornady concentricity tool, but it has a lot of people scratching their heads. How does it "correct" unconcentric rounds? It basically bends the projectile straight. It doesn't get to the heart of why the round is unconcentric in the first place. A regular concentricity tool may not be able to "correct" unconcentric rounds, but if I use it during each step of the loading process, I can nail down which step is introducing the run out and fix it. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 12/11/2013 3:52:28 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Guilty:
Here is a article that the OP might find useful comparing what the writer identifies as the three top-selling automatic powder dispensers on the market. RCBS ChargeMaster Combo - Lyman 1200 DPS II - PACT Digital Dispenser/Scale - Digital Powder Dispensers Here's another article titled Speed Up Your RCBS ChargeMaster Great info! I'm pretty much sold on the RCBS. There's just too many positive reviews for me to think about another unit. 
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USA
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Posted: 12/11/2013 6:39:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/12/2013 6:41:52 AM EST by Trollslayer]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SWThomas:
I considered the Hornady concentricity tool, but it has a lot of people scratching their heads. How does it "correct" unconcentric rounds? It basically bends the projectile straight. It doesn't get to the heart of why the round is unconcentric in the first place. A regular concentricity tool may not be able to "correct" unconcentric rounds, but if I use it during each step of the loading process, I can nail down which step is introducing the run out and fix it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SWThomas:
Originally Posted By bfoosh06:
Originally Posted By Guilty:
Here is a article that the OP might find useful comparing what the writer identifies as the three top-selling automatic powder dispensers on the market. RCBS ChargeMaster Combo - Lyman 1200 DPS II - PACT Digital Dispenser/Scale - Digital Powder Dispensers Here's another article titled Speed Up Your RCBS ChargeMaster Good stuff there. And I'd like to add that the whole being able to speed up the RCBS puts an extra feather in its cap. Whichever one you decide on... you can speed the process up even more by throwing a 3/4ish partial powder throw from your powder measure and let the automatic powder dispenser "top off" the remaining charge. And don't forget the "McDonalds" straw trick ! You might also consider the Hornady Ammunition Concentricity Tool.... you can "adjust" the round right there with the tool. http://www.hornady.com/store/Ammunition-Concentricity-Tool/ I considered the Hornady concentricity tool, but it has a lot of people scratching their heads. How does it "correct" unconcentric rounds? It basically bends the projectile straight. It doesn't get to the heart of why the round is unconcentric in the first place. A regular concentricity tool may not be able to "correct" unconcentric rounds, but if I use it during each step of the loading process, I can nail down which step is introducing the run out and fix it. I have three concentricity gages, or is it four,... one of which is the Hornady. I actually dislike the Hornady gage. The NECO gage with the GEM indicator is the best gage on the market. None are super-fantastic but the NECO is the best of what's out there. Edited to fix brain fart. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 12/11/2013 8:03:41 PM EST
Is the GEM indicator the one that comes with it?
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USA
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Posted: 12/12/2013 6:39:55 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By SWThomas:
Is the GEM indicator the one that comes with it? I really screwed up. <-- brain fart! I meant to say the NECO is the best of the bunch. I bought mine from Sinclair International and I blurred those two facts. The NECO comes with the GEM indicator. I own Sinclair, NECO and Hornady concentricity gages. NECO is first, Sinclair's is second, Hornady is a distant last place. Link to NECO gage at Sinclair 
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Posted: 12/12/2013 6:40:39 AM EST
RCBS Chargemaster.
I have loaded a few thousand with mine. The first one developed a dead spot and would not throw between 4.5 and 5.0 grains of 231 after about 8 months. I sent it back and they sent me a new one under warranty. The new one has been running fine for over a year. They can be had for under $300 regularly. Short of a progressive press, it was the best money I spent on reloading in the last 15 years. NOTE: The straw trick works great and it takes a can of compressed air to truly clean out all the powder. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 12/12/2013 12:15:25 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Graham2990:
RCBS Charge master. Little over $300 but RCBS still has the $50 rebate going on. +1 very nice piece of equipment |
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