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Posted: 6/22/2012 7:10:05 AM EDT
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Any idea where I could get something like that? Does that fit on any 49/56 without drilling or tapping? It should slide onto a bracket that is already on the receiver. The problem is finding the scope and mount. Awhile back I found one, but it was more than I paid for the rifle. |
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Quoted: Any idea where I could get something like that? Does that fit on any 49/56 without drilling or tapping? The original scope & mount with accessories (case, adjustment tool, manual) is very expensive these days. You're going to pay way more for the scope than the rifle, I'm afraid. The last time I saw the scope/mount/case for sale, prices had climbed to over $500. In May, one sold for $550 on Gunboards. A cheaper option is to track down an aftermarket mount. KVAR used to offer one...   They're out of production, but you can find them sometimes.... McCann makes one too... http://www.mccannindustries.com/mas.htm |
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Very nice! They all look like they were only dropped once. : ) I couldn't love the 49/56 that I owned, so I sold it. I have a 36 that I haven't fired yet. Rob The 49/56 I have has really impressed me favourably. I was always taught being of Germanic descent that French Engineering is somehow faulty. An example is some of my German friends took delight in pointing out that Citroen sounds like the German word for Lemon. But the MAS 49/56 to me seems to be a pretty well thought out little rifle... With a scope mounted on one I might seriously consider using it for hunting wild hogs or even deer. |
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Very nice! They all look like they were only dropped once. : ) I couldn't love the 49/56 that I owned, so I sold it. I have a 36 that I haven't fired yet. Rob The 49/56 I have has really impressed me favourably. I was always taught being of Germanic descent that French Engineering is somehow faulty. An example is some of my German friends took delight in pointing out that Citroen sounds like the German word for Lemon. But the MAS 49/56 to me seems to be a pretty well thought out little rifle... With a scope mounted on one I might seriously consider using it for hunting wild hogs or even deer. The MAS 49/56 served the French very well for many years in some really unpleasant places: Algeria, sub-Saharan Africa, French Guyana, and elsewhere. Brutally simple, and a joy to shoot. What other rifle can, with such ease, launch rifle grenades in the morning, and be a marksman's rifle in the afternoon? The iron sights appear crude, but they are great for quickly acquiring the target. Some might think the ten round magazine a handicap, but it makes snap shooting well, a snap. 
I'm looking to slap a scope on one of mine. They are every bit as accurate as an AR. |
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Honestly, the 49/56 is a GREAT shooting rifle. It's accurate, reliable, handy, and does everything an M1A, Garand, or even AR-15 in standard trim will do. The only "drawback" is it's caliber. 7.5 is kind of pricey around here, so it doesn't get shot as much as it should, however, it's a fine rifle. I like it a lot. |
Of course I never "served" in the French armed forces, so my shooting experience was only at the range. I just found it uncomfortable to shoot. My impression probably wasn't helped by having the plastic on the bolt knob fracture while shooting. I turned a replacement out of nylon before selling the rifle (fully disclosed).
My MAS 36 (appears to be original finish and no import marks) 
Rob |
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Of course I never "served" in the French armed forces, so my shooting experience was only at the range. I just found it uncomfortable to shoot. My impression probably wasn't helped by having the plastic on the bolt knob fracture while shooting. I turned a replacement out of nylon before selling the rifle (fully disclosed). http://www.teddydog.org/guns/french/mas4956_newknob2.JPG My MAS 36 (appears to be original finish and no import marks) http://www.teddydog.org/guns/french/mas36_1.JPG http://www.teddydog.org/guns/french/mas36_3.JPG Rob Just curious, but why was it uncomfortable to shoot? Mine has very soft recoil with both Prvi and French surplus, plus muzzle rise is minimal, or at least much less pronounced as an M1 or M14. Anyhow, like any firearm, not everyone will find them appealing. Nice looking -36. I have a Word Document with all the production dates and could look up when it was made if you don't already know. |
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Honestly, the 49/56 is a GREAT shooting rifle. It's accurate, reliable, handy, and does everything an M1A, Garand, or even AR-15 in standard trim will do. The only "drawback" is it's caliber. 7.5 is kind of pricey around here, so it doesn't get shot as much as it should, however, it's a fine rifle. I like it a lot. If you reload it is pretty much the exact same price to shoot as 7.62x51 NATO or .308 Win. If you buy new Prvi Partisan brass in quantity the price for 7.5x54 MAS is comparable to most other similar size cartridges. |
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Just curious, but why was it uncomfortable to shoot? Mine has very soft recoil with both Prvi and French surplus, plus muzzle rise is minimal, or at least much less pronounced as an M1 or M14. Anyhow, like any firearm, not everyone will find them appealing. Nice looking -36. I have a Word Document with all the production dates and could look up when it was made if you don't already know. You know, that was several years ago and I don't really remember exactly what it was that I didn't like about it. Short stock? It wasn't a recoil problem (I have no problem with 30-06, 8mm and 7.62x54 bolt rifles). Rob |
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Just curious, but why was it uncomfortable to shoot? Mine has very soft recoil with both Prvi and French surplus, plus muzzle rise is minimal, or at least much less pronounced as an M1 or M14. Anyhow, like any firearm, not everyone will find them appealing. Nice looking -36. I have a Word Document with all the production dates and could look up when it was made if you don't already know. You know, that was several years ago and I don't really remember exactly what it was that I didn't like about it. Short stock? It wasn't a recoil problem (I have no problem with 30-06, 8mm and 7.62x54 bolt rifles). Rob I was going to say that most of them come with the grenade launching boot that slips around the butt. Fixes any LOP problems. |
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my one and only frenchie.
factory mas 36 sporting rifle in 10,75x68mm, very rare in the US http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/dirtyjim/sporters/mas36.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/dirtyjim/sporters/mas36right.jpg one of the last living professional ivory hunters Tony Sanchez-Arino on his first elephant hunt in Gabun 1952, mas 36 10,75x68mm http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/dirtyjim/big%20bore/PHandoneofthelastlivingprofessionalivoryhuntersTonySanchez-ArinoonhisfirstelephanthuntinGabun1952mas361075x68mmjpg.jpg |
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my one and only frenchie. factory mas 36 sporting rifle in 10,75x68mm, very rare in the US http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/dirtyjim/sporters/mas36.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/dirtyjim/sporters/mas36right.jpg one of the last living professional ivory hunters Tony Sanchez-Arino on his first elephant hunt in Gabun 1952, mas 36 10,75x68mm http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/dirtyjim/big%20bore/PHandoneofthelastlivingprofessionalivoryhuntersTonySanchez-ArinoonhisfirstelephanthuntinGabun1952mas361075x68mmjpg.jpg 
Now that's something. Seems like a neat and competent big game cartridge. I got questions, and you'd best be forthcoming with answers. Or else. Or else what? Exactly. 
Where did you pick that one up? Ever shot it? If you have, how's it shoot? Who did the custom work? How many rounds in the magazine? Any more information of Sr. Sanchez-Arino? |
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factory loaded ammo is hard to come by and usually runs around $50 for 10 rounds when i find it. brass is also very expensive at $80 for 20 cases but buffallo arms is now selling them for around half that. ch4d has reloading dies.
the standard bullet is a 347grain but a lot of people use heavier bullets intended for the 404 jeffery. its a factory built mas 36 sporting rifle not a conversion. its also very light for a dgr but the factory brake tames it down quite a bit. it holds 4 down & i picked it up on gunbroker 4 or 5 years ago. i've seen pictures of a couple others on the web. here are a couple more pics http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/dirtyjim/sporters/mas36buttplate.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/dirtyjim/sporters/mas36left.jpg just google Tony Sanchez-Arino for more info on him. he was a PH and has written several good books on african hunting |
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The 49-56 is such a funky, cool looking rifle. I love the idea of getting one in 7.62x51 but have heard so many horror stories about rifles that either wouldn't feed or extract reliably at all or ones that would be okay for about 50 rounds and would start acting up. Someone told me that the extractors weren't good at handling the 7.62 cases or something like that.
Anyone have success stories or tales of woe about one of the conversions they can share? |
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The 49-56 is such a funky, cool looking rifle. I love the idea of getting one in 7.62x51 but have heard so many horror stories about rifles that either wouldn't feed or extract reliably at all or ones that would be okay for about 50 rounds and would start acting up. Someone told me that the extractors weren't good at handling the 7.62 cases or something like that. Anyone have success stories or tales of woe about one of the conversions they can share? There are some that have never and will never have a problem, and those that will never work reliably. The chance of getting the latter is high enough for me not consider. since .308 surplus is drying up, the cost of new-production ammo for the two calibers is going to be about the same, and you should be reloading for either caliber. So, get one in 7.5 French and you know that it will work as it should. |
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The 49-56 is such a funky, cool looking rifle. I love the idea of getting one in 7.62x51 but have heard so many horror stories about rifles that either wouldn't feed or extract reliably at all or ones that would be okay for about 50 rounds and would start acting up. Someone told me that the extractors weren't good at handling the 7.62 cases or something like that. Anyone have success stories or tales of woe about one of the conversions they can share? Don't bother with the 7.62x51 conversions... The 7.5x54 MAS cartridge is equal in power and really is a great cartridge. Once you are set up to hand load it, the cost is basically the same as loading for 7.62x51. |
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Those '44's are the sexiest semi-auto rifle I've yet to see. Nice grab, BUCC. I have to buy a MAS 49 and a 49/56 to go with them. If I was truly a sick man, I'd get a 36/51 too. Do it. A 36/51 and another 49/56 are on my list. If I could ever find a French MAS-49, I'd be all over it. The Syrian -49's (the ones with the bayonet) do not appeal to me. I really want to have some copies of a training rifle grenade I have made so I can launch them. 
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