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Posted: 9/24/2005 7:16:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/24/2005 4:01:55 PM EDT by tfisch67]
Does anyone know the legal length of a shotgun before it is considered a SBS? How is it measured, and are there variances in length minimums between pump and semi-autos? Thanks in advance for any info.
Link Posted: 9/24/2005 8:24:19 AM EDT
i believe thats its: 18'' bbl, 26in overall

same regulations (for length) for both semis and pumps

hope that is right....
Link Posted: 9/24/2005 8:54:38 AM EDT
ATF Uses a dowel down the barrel to the breechface to measure barrel length.

I knew a guy who cut down a Mossburg barrel to 18" from the barrel extension to the muzzle and it was an inch short. we had to weld on a piece of tubing to legthen it. We made the extension look like a half ass flash suppresor.

Always cut it to 18 1/2 or longer to avoid stupid attack like above.
Link Posted: 9/24/2005 3:58:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/25/2005 2:43:28 AM EDT by tfisch67]
Thanks for the info guys. I appreciate the help. I hate to do it, but here goes another Benelli M4/M1014 question, based on that info. If less than an 18" barrel and 26" overall length designates a "SBS"...WHY IN THE HECK is it a problem for someone to have the telescopic stock on their Benelli M4/M1014??!! With the stock collapsed, Benelli's specs show that an M4/M1014 is still 34"+...and it has an 18.5" barrel to boot.

So, if a Benelli M4/M1014 WITH STOCK COLLAPSED is still almost 10" longer than a SBS, what the heck is all of the controversy about? I'm not being a smartass, I'd really like to know.
Link Posted: 9/24/2005 4:11:34 PM EDT
On semi's and auto the oal dont come into play beacuse the receivers add so much length to the oal.
For doubles and singles it can become a peoblem.
Link Posted: 9/24/2005 4:49:51 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/24/2005 6:05:35 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 2:49:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/25/2005 2:55:53 AM EDT by tfisch67]

Originally Posted By HKG36K:
My Benelli M1 Entry is the same size as the M1014, and it has a 14" barrel!



Yeah, and an 870 (18" barrel) with folding pistol grip folded is even shorter than yours...and completely legal and not an sbs...go figure
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 7:17:12 AM EDT
It's just government BS. You can have folding stocks and mag extensions on current US-made shotguns, but not on foreign-made shotguns imported after '89.

I personally don't think that it is fair that some can have the "evil" features and some cannot, with the determining factor being where they were manufactured.
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