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12/24/2015 12:11:20 PM EDT
This is one of those things I don't want to buy the first iteration of, but am definitely interested in getting down the line.

Does anyone have experience with this? I despise hauling my chronograph out. Even if it didn't have all the bells and whistles and downrange tracking, I think it would still be worthwhile just for not having to setup a standard chrony.
12/24/2015 1:02:36 PM EDT
[#1]
I don't have one but want one.  My opinion is they are THE way to go but they are priced too high for my "budget".  It's not that I can't afford it, I just don't want to pay that much.  There isn't enough return on the investment.  A chronograph is not THAT important in load development testing.

As nice as they are, as much as I want one, they've placed their product at the wrong price point.

Group size the most important metric for load testing and that is determined on the target.  Vertical spread is more important than velocity variations.  Horizontal spread is more important than knowing wind speed (via a wind speed meter).

12/24/2015 1:16:12 PM EDT
[#2]
I bought the Magnetospeed V3 just for those reasons, work awesome so far. LabRadar is looking pretty trick, but way too much coin for My purposes.
12/24/2015 2:43:18 PM EDT
[#3]
I got one of the 1st batches to the public. Yes its expensive. Is it worth it? YES. Don't have to wait for the range to go cold to make adjustments. No worrying about shooting it. Not finicky on weather. Print out data for future reference. Here is a link to my review on another site with allot of pictures....
http://www.mnguntalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=54583
12/24/2015 3:22:46 PM EDT
[#4]
LabRadar Review on this forum.
12/24/2015 4:39:08 PM EDT
[#5]
So is this just a logging chronograph?  What's so special about this vs other designs?
I was wondering WTH you were talking about when I saw this, I was thinking...








<removed>, this is a Technical Forum. dryflash3
12/24/2015 4:41:35 PM EDT
[#6]
It's a radar system, as opposed to a typical chronograph. No skyscreens, no setup, no downrange box to accidentally shoot. No false readings due to light conditions, no hauling a table...

I do agree with the above- a chrono is somewhat overrated. It's good and useful information, but the groups are what REALLY matters. That is a very valid point.

Doesn't stop me from wanting a cool new gadget, though. At the cost of a decent prefit barrel, I can probably justify it... but I'm going to wait for a generation or two. Maybe find a used one someday.
12/24/2015 4:41:59 PM EDT
[#7]
<removed>, this is a Technical Forum. dryflash3
12/24/2015 5:48:48 PM EDT
[#8]
A chrono and a good ballistics app can help you with your dope. Invaluable tool if you reload. Reason why I spent the bucks. Worth every penny.
12/24/2015 7:09:15 PM EDT
[#9]
I'm glad to hear you are happy with their performance.

"Invaluable", not hardly!

Still, one of these remains "on my radar" but the price is wrong, IMO.  <-- bad pun, I know, I know, I know...
12/25/2015 5:17:00 AM EDT
[#10]
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So is this just a logging chronograph?  What's so special about this vs other designs?
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The short answer is that LabRadar has more pros and eliminates the cons of all other chronos . . . except price.

The cons?

Optical chronos: Must be set up ~10' downrange on a tripod while the range is cold. Must wait for a cold range to adjust. Often need to adjust when shifting to another target. Consistent results from session to session depend on setting up at the same distance and angle as the previous session. Unusable in (most) indoor ranges. Must shoot through a narrow area without shooting the chrono. Depends on reasonably consistent (natural) lighting to work. Known to fail to register more than just the occasional shot.  Does not play well in the rain.

MagnetoSpeed: Must be attached to the firearm, ie, not usable on many pistols and other firearms. When attached to the barrel, changes the POI. If attached using the velcro strap, any change in the position or tightness of the strap during shooting will result in a changed POI. (While changes in POI are well documented, there is currently no evidence that groups size is altered other than by a loosened/slipped strap during a group.) The change in POI diminishes its value during load development - which is mostly when one is interested in chrono data.

LabRadar: Price.


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