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Posted: 10/20/2008 11:04:23 AM EDT

I am thinking of shooting a K31 in local 200yd precision rifle matches and would really appreciate any range reports anyone would be willing to share.

Mostly to shoot something a bit different than the standard bolt guns everyone else uses.

I have read that they can be very accurate, but old eyes and iron sights leave a lot to be desired for determining the rifle's capability so a clamp-on mount and scope are going to be added.

Thanks for your time.

OFG

Posted: 10/20/2008 2:36:43 PM EDT

[#1]

Vs. what?
What ammo?

Keep in mind a shooters skill is the most important thing.

Assuming the same optics, I would put the K-31 up against any NEW factory rifle let alone
WW2 era.

Only a $1000+ custom rifle is going to out shoot a K-31 given the same shooter.

Posted: 10/20/2008 4:42:05 PM EDT

[#2]

Quoted:
Vs. what?
What ammo?

Keep in mind a shooters skill is the most important thing.

Assuming the same optics, I would put the K-31 up against any NEW factory rifle let alone
WW2 era.

Only a $1000+ custom rifle is going to out shoot a K-31 given the same shooter.

Well saId my brotha

Posted: 10/20/2008 6:22:56 PM EDT

[#3]

6rds at 100 yds with front rest and irons, and I am not that good a shot.

Same rifle, 6 rds at 100yds with front rest and a cheap 6x40 scope.

I was using surplus GP11 both times.

Posted: 10/20/2008 10:47:39 PM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
6rds at 100 yds with front rest and irons, and I am not that good a shot.

img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/johnrippert/K31Target.jpg

Same rifle, 6 rds at 100yds with front rest and a cheap 6x40 scope.

img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/johnrippert/K31Scope.jpg

I was using surplus GP11 both times.

Nice groups.

I have two K31's that I've yet to take out. One I am going to put the Rock Solid mount on (it already had some of the furniture removed when I picked it up).

Posted: 10/21/2008 4:40:13 AM EDT

[#5]

Thanks John R. for the irons vs scope report - exactly what I was looking for.

I have one K31 and 1k rounds of GP11 so I'll be ready to go as soon as I get the mount & scope. Then I'll work on getting a bipod mounted as our matches are shot prone with bipods & rear bags.

Anyone used the clamp-on mount that puts the scope over the bore as opposed to off to the right? BTW, where did you get your mount? Steel or aluminum?

Thanks,
OFG

Posted: 10/21/2008 6:12:42 AM EDT

[#6]

From what I have read most of the guys who use scopes on K31's use the clamp on mount

Posted: 10/21/2008 6:29:57 AM EDT

[#7]

I have the clamp on mount on one of my K31s and the offset has not been a problem at all. The one I have is by Accumount and made of aluminum costs $70 or close. St. Marie also makes one exactly like the Accumount and I think Brownells carrys it.

Posted: 10/21/2008 6:55:58 AM EDT

[#8]

I need a scope mount for my K-31 badly.

Posted: 10/21/2008 2:22:17 PM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:

Nice groups.

I have two K31's that I've yet to take out. One I am going to put the Rock Solid mount on (it already had some of the furniture removed when I picked it up).

i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk304/vwcraig/new%20toy%20pics/IMG_0342.jpg

You don't have any K31s.

Those are 96/11's, if I'm not mistaken.

Posted: 10/21/2008 5:33:15 PM EDT

[#10]

It is a steel St. Marie offset mount that I got from Graf&Sons a few years back.

Posted: 10/21/2008 7:30:07 PM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Nice groups.

I have two K31's that I've yet to take out. One I am going to put the Rock Solid mount on (it already had some of the furniture removed when I picked it up).

i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk304/vwcraig/new%20toy%20pics/IMG_0342.jpg

You don't have any K31s.

Those are 96/11's, if I'm not mistaken.

Or M1911s. They have a longer action, I don't know if the clamp on mounts will work for those.

Posted: 10/22/2008 7:31:59 PM EDT

[#12]

well at 100 yards i'm shooting about .75 of an inch and thats with pri partizan 174 grain ammo fmj. i have 2 k31's and both seem to like that ammo

Posted: 10/23/2008 4:44:39 PM EDT

[#13]

About 3 yrs ago I shot a Garand match at my local club, and they had a Bolt gun match afterward open to all WWII bolt guns. The rules are simple, stock rifles, no scopes, open sights only, 200yds offhand, prone, and a rapid fire prone and offhand.Ammo could be either your own loads or surplus. Using Swiss surplus 7.5 ammo I came in 3rd, I beat out over 30 other shooters who were using either a Mauser, or a '03 or a '03A3....That convinced me, these are very accurate rifles,

Posted: 10/24/2008 8:04:04 AM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
About 3 yrs ago I shot a Garand match at my local club, and they had a Bolt gun match afterward open to all WWII bolt guns. The rules are simple, stock rifles, no scopes, open sights only, 200yds offhand, prone, and a rapid fire prone and offhand.Ammo could be either your own loads or surplus. Using Swiss surplus 7.5 ammo I came in 3rd, I beat out over 30 other shooters who were using either a Mauser, or a '03 or a '03A3....That convinced me, these are very accurate rifles,

O man, if you where the only one with a K-31 and u placed 3rd, they all must have been ooo'ing and awe'ing the K-31 eh?

Posted: 10/24/2008 5:46:08 PM EDT

[#15]

Yep, they are accurate. Much to the chagrin of 03 and 1917 shooters.

Posted: 11/19/2008 5:55:57 PM EDT

[#16]

I've gotten 5/16" groups at 100 yards using the Sierra GameKing 150 sp boattail over Reloader 15 powder.

Posted: 11/21/2008 5:51:36 AM EDT

[#17]

They shoot pretty well, while I prefer Swedes, it's a fair toss up.

PS-
http://clubs.odcmp.com/cgi-bin/report_eventAward.cgi?matchID=3426&eventID=14&awardID=1

2008 National Trophy Rifle Matches & SAFS

Vintage Military Rifle Match Results

It's a Swede, Swiss, 1917 contest where the shooter matters far more than the gun.

Posted: 11/21/2008 12:33:45 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
They shoot pretty well, while I prefer Swedes, it's a fair toss up.

PS-
http://clubs.odcmp.com/cgi-bin/report_eventAward.cgi?matchID=3426&eventID=14&awardID=1

2008 National Trophy Rifle Matches & SAFS

Vintage Military Rifle Match Results

It's a Swede, Swiss, 1917 contest where the shooter matters far more than the gun.

Thanks for the link man, that's pretty interesting.