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Posted: 7/24/2019 3:55:35 PM EDT
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Hardly anyone has their hands on one. I've seen at least one person whose opinion I respect say he likes it better than his Trail. I think there just aren't enough out in the wild yet to have any consumer feedback.
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Posted: 7/24/2019 4:57:05 PM EDT
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Solid thermal in my opinion. Does everything the Trail did and more. We have a couple Thermion XM38’s in stock. I can offer an ARFcom discount on them if you call me. I will own and run the XP50 when we get them. I’m impressed!
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Posted: 7/24/2019 8:55:36 PM EDT
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I'm not sure if the Thermion XP50 has even been released yet. I check you tube everyday looking for videos and I think there is only one.
With all the Trail POI shifts I cant help but wonder if the Thermions will have the same problem. Oh and apparently there is no audio in the now released Thermion XM line and I'm sure that's going to be the same for the XP's. Pulsar did that same CRAP when they released the Trails too. |
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Posted: 7/24/2019 11:25:53 PM EDT
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Pulsar did that same CRAP when they released the Trails too. The POI shift issue was a non-issue. One tenth of one percent of all scopes users had actual problems, and one hundred percent of those people were taken care of by the mothership. A much bigger problem is someone shooting a 4" handwarmer and complaining that their group size sucks. Hint: the problem is between the keyboard and the chair. |
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Posted: 7/25/2019 12:02:39 PM EDT
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I'm waiting on the XM30. Hopefully this fall.
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Posted: 7/25/2019 4:14:52 PM EDT
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The Thermion is good to go. The display is very crisp with good contrast and the color palettes and reticles look really good. I just posted a new video on our YouTube channel with lots of footage from the Thermion XP50 and XM38. We currently have both the XP50 and XM38 in stock. No XM30's yet.
 30-50 Feral Hogs? How about Hundreds... |
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Posted: 7/25/2019 4:40:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yet those Trails have great audio now. Try that with a Flurrrr. Thanks. |
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Posted: 7/25/2019 5:18:05 PM EDT
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My XP50 has a pretty bad audio lag. Might be worse with the last firmware update? I've been meaning to ask if anyone else has noticed this? Thanks. |
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Posted: 7/25/2019 6:29:50 PM EDT
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That's correct. I have never hooked scope to a computer to download videos.
Thanks. |
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Posted: 7/25/2019 8:44:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yet those Trails have great audio now. Try that with a Flurrrr. The POI shift issue was a non-issue. One tenth of one percent of all scopes users had actual problems, and one hundred percent of those people were taken care of by the mothership. A much bigger problem is someone shooting a 4" handwarmer and complaining that their group size sucks. Hint: the problem is between the keyboard and the chair. There's pretty convincing evidence that the POI Pulsar shift is real. Here is a very current video of it happening with the xq50. I think this guy is in Europe or something. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC-gHgRAddk&t=464s I own a Trail XP50 and I dont take a chance on my POI shifting by sighting it in every time I use it. I still look forward to the Thermion XP50 though. I like the looks and all the bells and whistles Pulsar offers in their XP line thermals. |
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Posted: 7/25/2019 9:33:09 PM EDT
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I own a Trail XP50 and I dont take a chance on my POI shifting by sighting it in every time I use it. I dont have have to do this with mine. Do you actually make an adjustment to your reticle each time you use yours? |
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Posted: 7/25/2019 10:09:24 PM EDT
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I do adjust it each time, but I always remove it from my rifle at the end of each hunt to download the videos.
It's always close though from where it was. I just cant accept the possible POI "may" shift and I miss my target. Thats why I sight in each time. Peace of mind I guess. |
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Posted: 7/26/2019 2:06:39 PM EDT
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I do adjust it each time, but I always remove it from my rifle at the end of each hunt to download the videos. It's always close though from where it was. I just cant accept the possible POI "may" shift and I miss my target. Thats why I sight in each time. Peace of mind I guess. Luckily mine doesn't shift. But I did have trouble with the mount not staying tight in the past. In fact, I've been using the 44 inch pound setting recommended by the mount manufacturer, and actually had that work loose recently. I am just resolved to the fact that I will have to check the torque setting from time to time. |
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Posted: 9/2/2019 9:56:47 PM EDT
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Looking at a Thermion XM30 or XM38 and wondering if anyone has an update on the POI issue? I know the XMs haven't been in the wild long, but has anyone using them experienced POI shifts?
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Posted: 9/4/2019 1:26:37 AM EDT
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Just got a XM38.couldn't wait any longer for the XM30 (Oct now I think) mounted on my Sig 308.still going thru the manual.
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