How are bang sticks regulated? > General Firearm Discussion

Posted: 6/21/2006 3:54:27 PM EDT

The pistol caliber diving devices

Thanks

Posted: 6/21/2006 5:38:05 PM EDT

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They're not; TTBOMK, just don't be dumb with one.

Posted: 6/22/2006 6:33:33 AM EDT

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Thanks

Posted: 6/22/2006 6:34:50 AM EDT

[#3]

My understanding is that as long as they are used for the intended purpose, you're ok.

get caught carrying one in your pocket, and you'll have problems.

Posted: 6/22/2006 8:10:24 AM EDT

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Depends what you happen to BUMP into with one.

Like maybe a

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Posted: 6/22/2006 8:11:22 AM EDT

[#5]

But don't do that.

Please.

Posted: 6/22/2006 12:28:55 PM EDT

[#6]

bang sticks? somebody please educate me.

Posted: 6/22/2006 1:07:52 PM EDT

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bang sticks? somebody please educate me.

Scuba divers use them to fend off sharks.

Posted: 6/22/2006 1:19:27 PM EDT

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bang sticks? somebody please educate me.

Scuba divers use them to fend off sharks.

Fend off? That's an interesting euphemism for deadly force.

Back away or I'll fend you off!
I'll have to remember that one!

Posted: 6/22/2006 7:45:40 PM EDT

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bang sticks? somebody please educate me.

Scuba divers use them to fend off sharks.
Fend off? That's an interesting euphemism for deadly force.

Back away or I'll fend you off!
I'll have to remember that one!

Posted: 6/22/2006 8:18:32 PM EDT

[#10]

Threat to Officer Safety from Bangsticks
According to a recent Palm Beach County, Fla. Sheriff's Office Law Enforcement Advisory, one of their deputy sheriff's arrested a man in possession of a "Bangstick" measuring 4 5/8" in length with a 1 3/4" barrel and capable of firing either a single 38 cal. short Colt, .38 special or .357 magnum cartridge. The device had been adapted to be worn around the neck or concealed in a pocket.

A "bangstick" is intended for use by fishermen and scuba divers to kill sharks and alligators. When used in such a way it is attached to a threaded pole and then used as a prod to hit the target. A very slight tap at the end of the barrel will cause the device to discharge.

When used in such a manner the law considers the use of the "bangstick" as legal. However, when detached and carried in a pocket or around the neck and used under circumstances clearly removed from the sport of fishing or diving, the "Bangstick" is considered to be a firearm under federal law. ATF has classified this device as an "any other weapon" that is prosecutable by 10 years in prison and up to $10,000 in fines under Title 26, Section 5871.

Deputies and officers should be extremely cautious when handling these devices as they can discharge simply by being tapped on the barrel end. In addition, the device's appearance is deceptive and can lead an officer to discount it as a non-dangerous weapon. It is a triggerless device that can easily be mistaken for a tool or some other harmless article. "Bangsticks" can be found at scuba or diving accessories shops.

they make them in big calibers too:

www.beco-products.com/beco_catalog.htm

Posted: 6/23/2006 10:05:45 AM EDT

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When used in such a manner the law considers the use of the "bangstick" as legal. However, when detached and carried in a pocket or around the neck and used under circumstances clearly removed from the sport of fishing or diving, the "Bangstick" is considered to be a firearm under federal law. ATF has classified this device as an "any other weapon" that is prosecutable by 10 years in prison and up to $10,000 in fines under Title 26, Section 5871.

Correct.

Posted: 6/23/2006 10:36:40 AM EDT

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Awesome! I had totally forgotten about these. They were featured in a few movies when I was a kid (Mako: Jaws of Death!) and I always thought they were the coolest.

Now where is the thread about quicksand?

Posted: 6/23/2006 11:18:11 AM EDT

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John Clark used a modified version of a bangstick with a 12 guage shell to kill a pimp in the novel "No Remorse" by Tom Clancy. Sounded like it could be a pretty deadly, contact weapon....

Posted: 6/23/2006 11:33:21 AM EDT

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John Clark used a modified version of a bangstick with a 12 guage shell to kill a pimp in the novel "No Remorse" by Tom Clancy. Sounded like it could be a pretty deadly, contact weapon....

Beat me to it.
Bandanna the pusher got whacked!

Posted: 6/23/2006 6:06:42 PM EDT

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"Bangsticks" themselves aren't registered but if you use yours on somebody who doesn't want you to, you may go to jail and when you get out you may have to register with the govt. every time you move into a new neighborhood.

Posted: 6/23/2006 8:03:52 PM EDT

[#16]

These work like the supressed .22 contraptions used in the movie "Munich"?

Posted: 6/23/2006 8:18:33 PM EDT

[#17]

I carry one when spear fishing, but have never used it on a shark. I have used it on a 60lb Albacore, a 90lb Amberjack and an 80lb Giant Trevally. It works WAY better than a speargun. Fish don't swim much after a .44mag hp goes through them.

Posted: 6/23/2006 8:28:50 PM EDT

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I carry one when spear fishing, but have never used it on a shark. I have used it on a 60lb Albacore, a 90lb Amberjack and an 80lb Giant Trevally. It works WAY better than a speargun. Fish don't swim much after a .44mag hp goes through them.

No, but they might tend to bleed a bit............

<ta-nah, ta-nah......... ta-nah ta-nah ta-nah, ta-nah na nah! />

Posted: 6/23/2006 10:34:56 PM EDT

[#19]

That's kinda true, thats why I always carry extra ammo.

Posted: 6/23/2006 10:40:38 PM EDT

[#20]

CCW?

Posted: 6/24/2006 7:59:18 AM EDT

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I carry one when spear fishing, but have never used it on a shark. I have used it on a 60lb Albacore, a 90lb Amberjack and an 80lb Giant Trevally. It works WAY better than a speargun. Fish don't swim much after a .44mag hp goes through them.

Just get a Glock....they shoot underwater.

Posted: 6/24/2006 12:57:47 PM EDT

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what is the sound like when it goes off under water..

Posted: 6/24/2006 2:25:25 PM EDT

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what is the sound like when it goes off under water..

Probably like when I fired my Glock underwater.... *PFFUMP!*

Posted: 6/24/2006 2:28:50 PM EDT

[#24]

Don't sound waves travel through water better than air?

Posted: 6/24/2006 6:29:14 PM EDT

[#25]

It's pretty loud and you can hear it from far away when it goes off. Sound travels 4x faster through water than air.

Posted: 6/24/2006 8:43:38 PM EDT

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John Clark used a modified version of a bangstick with a 12 guage shell to kill a pimp in the novel "No Remorse" by Tom Clancy. Sounded like it could be a pretty deadly, contact weapon....

Just what I was thinking.

Great book!

Clark is da man!

Posted: 6/25/2006 9:12:42 AM EDT

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These work like the supressed .22 contraptions used in the movie "Munich"?

Roughly. Where the ones in the movie were fired by whacking the back end I believe bang sticks are fired when you whack the muzzle against the target.

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