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Hey guys, any help with the following: it is a PVS15 GP with an MX10160WG tube but with L3 CAGE code. I know these were made before any Elbit/Harris/ITT/L3 merger, so what would a legacy L3 MX10160 be? Thank you.
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L3 M814-DF2 SN#100339030
Very difficult to find information online https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gFY22e_PvIo0xRNedYlPnnr7490Z0JRd/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/14MmhHd2Uat2cQJV8tTGdNzDTuxzbELyO/view?usp=sharing Purchased on Ebay for a decent price (not sure if we can talk about $$ on here, I'm new) My guess is that its a Gen3 autogated thin film Gain knob is functional and has a very faint whine Has zero blemishes in zone 1 and 2, only a couple at the very edge of zone 3 that are so small I did not notice for the first couple weeks of owning Has a small spot right in the center that's just a little brighter than the rest of the tube. Any input is much appreciated |
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^^ good luck getting any info, this thread is pretty much dead and/or ignored and forgotten. Look at how no one has responded to the posters above you when they had questions.
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Thread looks dead but Ill ask anyway just in case as I cannot find a single lead on what this tube is.
Exelis F9815M14C The pigtail has nothing at all written on it. |
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Originally Posted By kkendall99: L3 M814-DF2 SN#100339030 Very difficult to find information online https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gFY22e_PvIo0xRNedYlPnnr7490Z0JRd/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/14MmhHd2Uat2cQJV8tTGdNzDTuxzbELyO/view?usp=sharing Purchased on Ebay for a decent price (not sure if we can talk about $$ on here, I'm new) My guess is that its a Gen3 autogated thin film Gain knob is functional and has a very faint whine Has zero blemishes in zone 1 and 2, only a couple at the very edge of zone 3 that are so small I did not notice for the first couple weeks of owning Has a small spot right in the center that's just a little brighter than the rest of the tube. Any input is much appreciated View Quote Not an expert, bit have good GoogleFu. https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/nv-tubes.81776/ Since the Delta series is not autogated, and yours appears to be autogated, I would expect it to be part of their Defender series. My guess is the DF stands for Defender. If so, it appears that it was intended to be a mil (possibly Omni 8) tube that didn't meet the specifications. |
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Originally Posted By wwglen: Are you sure the last letter is a C and not a G. View Quote absolutely |
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Originally Posted By RFBean: absolutely View Quote Can't help you then. Closest I saw was a Harris (who owned Exelis for a while) page showing some information on their F9800 series tubes (F9815 looks to be part of their series). It showed the: F9800M16G as 1600 FOM autogated. F9800M18G as 1800 FOM autogated. So if it was a G instead of a C then I would assume a 1400 FOM autogated. |
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Can anyone tell me the specs on these two tubes? They look great in person. Attached File |
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“When you have to shoot…shoot, don’t talk.” Tuco
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Originally Posted By MadeintheUSA: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/433328/809E7BDC-377E-47E8-A5DE-D4F6E34CCFF3_jpe-2149320.JPGCan anyone tell me the specs on these two tubes? They look great in person. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/433328/0600E3DC-98A0-47A2-A1A5-C1063E69AFF3_jpe-2149310.JPG View Quote From what I’ve found they’re milspec F9800YG tubes, so the minimum specs would be 64 resolution 25 snr 1800 sensitivity 2.5 max ebi 1.0 max halo 40000-70000 gain Those are just the minimums, and they probably exceed them by quite a bit. They’re nice tubes. |
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Originally Posted By shreddingaxes: From what I've found they're milspec F9800YG tubes, so the minimum specs would be 64 resolution 25 snr 1800 sensitivity 2.5 max ebi 1.0 max halo 40000-70000 gain Those are just the minimums, and they probably exceed them by quite a bit. They're nice tubes. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By shreddingaxes: Originally Posted By MadeintheUSA: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/433328/809E7BDC-377E-47E8-A5DE-D4F6E34CCFF3_jpe-2149320.JPGCan anyone tell me the specs on these two tubes? They look great in person. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/433328/0600E3DC-98A0-47A2-A1A5-C1063E69AFF3_jpe-2149310.JPG From what I've found they're milspec F9800YG tubes, so the minimum specs would be 64 resolution 25 snr 1800 sensitivity 2.5 max ebi 1.0 max halo 40000-70000 gain Those are just the minimums, and they probably exceed them by quite a bit. They're nice tubes. |
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Originally Posted By wjoutlaw: Looking to get some info on these tubes. Could be Harder but not so sure. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284782/20200615_113509_jpg-1466518.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284782/20200615_113520_jpg-1466519.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284782/20200615_113532_jpg-1466520.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284782/20200615_113850_jpg-1466521.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/284782/20200615_113902_jpg-1466522.JPG View Quote I'm sorry to bring up an old post, but did you ever figure out the manufacturer for that tube? I have two gen 2+ pvs-14's, each from different retailers that have the exact same S/N format. they're both 11769 format tubes. |
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Going through this thread (wow! what a lot of expertise and info you guys have) trying to nail down a couple of tubes. These are mounted in a set of ANVIS 9's my buddy is trying to get me to buy from him. I'd appreciate a second (or third) opinion on my deductions in red below.
Left Tube MX-10160A/AVS-6 CAGE 13567 (likely ITT/Harris?) Contr. F09603-98-C-0295 (1998?) ID No. 80063-A3256389 (seems OMNI IV or V? Thin filmed and not autogated?) Warranty Exp. 09/01 CAD 0038 Right Tube MX-10160A/AVS-6 MFR 13567 Contr. 0AA807-96C-1209 (1996?) ID No. 54490-A3256389 CAD 9907 It looks like these tubes were made at least a couple years apart and there's a possibility it was some sort of armorer level refit on one side at some point in their life? My main concern is what the tubes are worth, how much life they may have left, and of course if they were somehow rebuilt in a garage somewhere before they came into my buddy's possession (not collimated, purged, etc.). Yeah, yeah I know the whole "my buddy" schtick... not the case here. He wants $5k for the goggles but I'm tempted keep saving for something a little newer. |
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Originally Posted By Turok: Going through this thread (wow! what a lot of expertise and info you guys have) trying to nail down a couple of tubes. These are mounted in a set of ANVIS 9's my buddy is trying to get me to buy from him. I'd appreciate a second (or third) opinion on my deductions in red below. Left Tube MX-10160A/AVS-6 CAGE 13567 (likely ITT/Harris?) Contr. F09603-98-C-0295 (1998?) ID No. 80063-A3256389 (seems OMNI IV or V? Thin filmed and not autogated?) Warranty Exp. 09/01 CAD 0038 Right Tube MX-10160A/AVS-6 MFR 13567 Contr. 0AA807-96C-1209 (1996?) ID No. 54490-A3256389 CAD 9907 It looks like these tubes were made at least a couple years apart and there's a possibility it was some sort of armorer level refit on one side at some point in their life? My main concern is what the tubes are worth, how much life they may have left, and of course if they were somehow rebuilt in a garage somewhere before they came into my buddy's possession (not collimated, purged, etc.). Yeah, yeah I know the whole "my buddy" schtick... not the case here. He wants $5k for the goggles but I'm tempted keep saving for something a little newer. View Quote The top one was made the 38th week of 2000, and the bottom was made the seventh week of 1999. ITT filmed non gated tubes. Probably very nice tubes. The late nineties/ early 2000s ITT tubes I’ve had all had excellent cosmetics, and good performers. |
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First they came for TheHorta, and I did not speak out because I wasn’t a metrosexual. Then they came for Scott, and I sent them a flaccid dick pic to show them I was not pleased.
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Originally Posted By shreddingaxes: The top one was made the 38th week of 2000, and the bottom was made the seventh week of 1999. ITT filmed non gated tubes. Probably very nice tubes. The late nineties/ early 2000s ITT tubes I’ve had all had excellent cosmetics, and good performers. View Quote Thanks! They look pretty good but quite a bit of noise in lower ambient conditions compared with a newer (2018 mfg) 2200+ FOM PVS14. They also seem dimmer compared with the PVS. Is this an indication of high usage/hours and maybe tubes aren’t as good anymore? |
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I have an ITT 273350-34 SN 1314 00 279
It is manual gain (MX11679) and is autogated The only markings I can see on it are the ITT number and SN. Can anyone help me identify what exact tube it is? Thanks! |
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Alright, so I have one more inquiry. Can any provide any details about this Exelis tube? I wonder when it was produced. Thanks!
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Originally Posted By MadeintheUSA: Alright, so I have one more inquiry. Can any provide any details about this Exelis tube? I wonder when it was produced. Thanks! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/433328/4EED3E8D-2BB5-4142-8CF3-CAA9B0255195_jpe-2200611.JPG View Quote The specifications of that tube type are posted a few posts above for another set of tubes. Also ITT broke off Exelis in 2011 and from 2011-2013 it was known as ITT/Exelis. Also Harris bought Exelis put in 2015 and then it was sold again to Elbit in 2019. So my guess would be between 2011 and 2015, unless Harris kept the Exelis name, then it might have been as late as 2019 |
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Got an interesting tube, hopefully someone might have some idea as to what it is?
It's some kind of MX-11769 type. It's an Exelis tube, it reads: EXELIS NV505A-X7C S/N 1621 91 360 1167680 The trim pots are in a recess just like the pigtail connection which is unusual, and the Fixed pattern Noise, the hexagonal honeycomb pattern is much smaller, you could fit two or three of the hexagons in this tube in one hexagon in a typical tube. Any help would be appreciated. |
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Originally Posted By akaf47: Got an interesting tube, hopefully someone might have some idea as to what it is? It's some kind of MX-11769 type. It's an Exelis tube, it reads: EXELIS NV505A-X7C S/N 1621 91 360 1167680 The trim pots are in a recess just like the pigtail connection which is unusual, and the Fixed pattern Noise, the hexagonal honeycomb pattern is much smaller, you could fit two or three of the hexagons in this tube in one hexagon in a typical tube. Any help would be appreciated. View Quote Looks like it should be an Exelis NV5050A-X7C (instead of NV505A-X7C) Page 9 of this thread has a discussion on it. |
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Any help would be appreciated. Was thinking Omni8 off of the CAD but the contract number is not what I’m used to seeing.
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If anyone can help identifying this tube I would greatly appreciate it. What I do know it's ITT, manual gain, made 3rd week of 2010. Not sure if it's OMNI VII or VIII, thin filmed or not. I think it’s OMNI VII due to the contract number. I did try google. Is it thin filmed, pinnacle, standard filmed etc ??? That's the best I can come up with.
Thanks guys MX-11769/UV CAD 1003 War Exp Feb11 Mfr 13567 ID 80063 A3297320 Contr No W9124Q 5 D 0821 NSN 5855 01 504 4590 S/N 38246XX |
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Originally Posted By 2nd2none: If anyone can help identifying this tube I would greatly appreciate it. What I do know it's ITT, manual gain, made 3rd week of 2010. Not sure if it's OMNI VII or VIII, thin filmed or not. I think it’s OMNI VII due to the contract number. I did try google. Is it thin filmed, pinnacle, standard filmed etc ??? That's the best I can come up with. Thanks guys MX-11769/UV CAD 1003 War Exp Feb11 Mfr 13567 ID 80063 A3297320 Contr No W9124Q 5 D 0821 NSN 5855 01 504 4590 S/N 38246XX View Quote Almost same tube answered on page 8. |
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Originally Posted By French1966: Any help would be appreciated. Was thinking Omni8 off of the CAD but the contract number is not what I’m used to seeing. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/496867/A610C4E2-5757-4390-9628-B9692AA23F63_jpe-2293262.JPG View Quote My quick look showed that contract format is for the Department of Energy. |
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Yep, found this:
Federal Contract Opportunity for ATPIAL AN/PEQ-15, ATP-000-A18 Kits DE-AD52-09NA29267. Posted Jul 22, 2009. Due Aug 6, 2009. Posted by the Headquarters (DOE) https://govtribe.com/opportunity/federal-contract-opportunity/atpial-anpeq-15-atp-000-a18-kits-dead5209na29267 |
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Oh damn thats crazy. Last 3 digits are different, this one is for a peq15 contract right?
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How about this tube.
https://imgur.com/a/cjSVTSg |
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What the constituents want doesn't matter anymore
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Originally Posted By 1014773475: How about this tube. https://imgur.com/a/cjSVTSg View Quote Your tube appears to be a docked MX-11769 tube. I have the same series tubes in my RNVGs. I bought them from tlandoe07, he removed the pigtail and soldered in a resistor. He told me they were Omni-VIII equivalent specs. They are damn good tubes and seem to outperform Omni-VII just based on my observations. |
"When you buy a jar of peanut butter do you look at the born on date? No. You buy it, stick your dick in it and go to town" aBADidea
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I got brave and removed the ocular. The power supply is a KM 272069-8 date 05 24. What kind of tube do I have?
https://imgur.com/a/vvzexhq |
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What the constituents want doesn't matter anymore
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Originally Posted By 1014773475: I got brave and removed the ocular. The power supply is a KM 272069-8 date 05 24. What kind of tube do I have? https://imgur.com/a/vvzexhq View Quote That tube was manufactured on the 24th week of 2005. My best guess would be an Omni-V. Good tubes and perform well. |
"When you buy a jar of peanut butter do you look at the born on date? No. You buy it, stick your dick in it and go to town" aBADidea
Adapt, improvise and overcome....or fucking die trying. |
Question for Gurus!!
I just picked a MX-10160A with a CAD of 1603, is this a refurbished tube or something? I assumed they would only make Mx10160C after a certain date! |
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Question about MX-10160C/AVS-6G,
Originally Posted By tlandoe07: Current production Omni 8 anvis tube. Mil spec equivalent to the F9800YG. View Quote - How would they hold up compared to say MX-10160C, what and how would the specs be different ? - And would it be G designated for Ground troops ? |
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I’m at a dead-end to identify these…but if anyone can, I’ll send some beer money to your way!
Source: AGM NVD-50 3AL1 purchased in 2020 (AGM reps claim they use new L3 or Elbit. And they’re auto-gated and thin-filmed) What’s known: MX11769 pattern tubes, GP No markings anywhere… except for serial numbers. Tube 1 SN: 12596 Tube 2 SN: 12570 https://i.ibb.co/51YqR0H/B976-A0-BD-0-BD7-4-F19-9402-756068-B56527.jpg https://i.ibb.co/CwVSJCP/24-A146-FC-F8-B7-46-E2-B0-E5-111328345-E76.jpg https://i.ibb.co/378XRXf/DFA766-F6-D749-47-B9-8-B8-D-C3-F4-B41-DE9-B9.jpg |
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Originally Posted By 1014773475: I got brave and removed the ocular. The power supply is a KM 272069-8 date 05 24. What kind of tube do I have? https://imgur.com/a/vvzexhq View Quote That is an ITT F9800SELA, it`s a thin-film tube with a non-gated power supply. they were very good tubes for the time, I had one that was 72lpmm - 29.8 S/N - 2340 PCR. Vic sold a lot of them back then. |
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Originally Posted By Madcat207: Curious what the input on this tube is: https://i.imgur.com/xvxWyFg.jpg Contract: DAAB07-98-C-J418 Part: A3256388 NSN: 5855014224720 Date: 0321 Going by the spreadsheet here, it seems like it should be at least Omni V (based on contract) but the date could push it to VI. View Quote CAD date 21st week of 2003, OMNI V non-gated, probably a good performing tube, I have one just like it. |
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Looked through the forums for info on this tube. I could have sworn the list was set up differently once. anyway here are the details on the label.
MX-10160A/AVS-6 cage 55311 NSN 5855-01-423-1497 Contr No DAAB07-01-D-N413 ID NO 80063-A3256389 WARR EXP 1202 CAD 0152 Any info is greatly appreciated. Is it auto-gated? General specs etc. Thank you very much in advance. |
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Originally Posted By outlawsix: Looked through the forums for info on this tube. I could have sworn the list was set up differently once. anyway here are the details on the label. MX-10160A/AVS-6 cage 55311 NSN 5855-01-423-1497 Contr No DAAB07-01-D-N413 ID NO 80063-A3256389 WARR EXP 1202 CAD 0152 Any info is greatly appreciated. Is it auto-gated? General specs etc. Thank you very much in advance. View Quote Omni VIII, autogated and a mispec tube. Should be a nice tube. Made by L3. |
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"I said I never had much use for one, never said I didn't know how to use it"
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Thank you very much Sir.
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Howdy!
I have a tube which is proving really difficult to find information on. Picture 1: https://i.imgur.com/fck5ol9.jpg Picture 2: https://i.imgur.com/SzubHJl.jpg Info on the tube is: S/N: 1087059 Two part numbers (?): 379782 / 271165 Mystery value: 0.160 (I was wondering if this is a measurement, relating to the recession of the output window face - perhaps for focusing reasons, telling a tech what shim to use etc.) "P" and "R", alongside "++" It's a Gen3 tube, pulled out of an Envis M703E. From my research that suggests it should be a Harris/Excelis F9800P, but I'm not so sure. A friend pointed out that the recessed side of the tube, at the output window, tends to be an L3/Litton design hallmark and occasionally ITT. The outer boot doesn't have any lines running around it like I've seen on Harris tubes. I'm not sure though, any additional context would be appreciated! |
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Originally Posted By CoupleThou: Howdy! I have a tube which is proving really difficult to find information on. Picture 1: https://i.imgur.com/fck5ol9.jpg Picture 2: https://i.imgur.com/SzubHJl.jpg Info on the tube is: S/N: 1087059 Two part numbers (?): 379782 / 271165 Mystery value: 0.160 (I was wondering if this is a measurement, relating to the recession of the output window face - perhaps for focusing reasons, telling a tech what shim to use etc.) "P" and "R", alongside "++" It's a Gen3 tube, pulled out of an Envis M703E. From my research that suggests it should be a Harris/Excelis F9800P, but I'm not so sure. A friend pointed out that the recessed side of the tube, at the output window, tends to be an L3/Litton design hallmark and occasionally ITT. The outer boot doesn't have any lines running around it like I've seen on Harris tubes. I'm not sure though, any additional context would be appreciated! View Quote Can't tell you more than what you already know. It looks to me as if the tube has been repotted. Most Envis tubes are failed aviation tubes due to blemishes. I have several of those tubes and not one looks even close to yours. If it whines when powered it is autogated. Most I can tell you. Certainly looks like someone has been working on that tube. If it works well just enjoy it. |
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"I said I never had much use for one, never said I didn't know how to use it"
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Originally Posted By Dino1130: Can't tell you more than what you already know. It looks to me as if the tube has been repotted. Most Envis tubes are failed aviation tubes due to blemishes. I have several of those tubes and not one looks even close to yours. If it whines when powered it is autogated. Most I can tell you. Certainly looks like someone has been working on that tube. If it works well just enjoy it. View Quote Thank you! I appreciate the reply. A friend suggested it was repotted too, which does make sense. In terms of blemishes, this definitely has them - there's a soft, very very faint honeycomb blemsh (not FPN as such) over the full image, and some interesting line-shaped blems on the right side of the tube. It doesn't feel like the blemishes were post-production, but I don't know enough to say that for sure. Here's an image: https://i.ibb.co/6XW51gV/IMG20230118025657.jpg You can see the vague honeycomb pattern I was talking about in the sky. In any case, I'm not hoping for any further information, just sharing the image because tubes are cool :) Thank you again for your thoughts. |
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