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Link Posted: 2/20/2018 9:17:42 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By westernhaikus1:
Hey guys - any comments on the following:

MX11769UV
Contract No - W91CRB-11-D-0082/0005
ID No. A3297320
Warranty Exp Feb 15
CAD1245
MFR 13567

Based on the beginning posts in this thread it appears to be a milspec ITT tube and I think Omni VIII? Non autogated?
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Omnibus 8 contract, Harris manufacture, 45th week of 2012.

No info on the delivery order itself, this one wasn't made public (most aren't public) so you can only assume it's somewhere around the contract minimums. It should be autogated, and it was probably a military delivery tube.
Link Posted: 2/22/2018 5:40:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By awptickes:

Omnibus 8 contract, Harris manufacture, 45th week of 2012.

No info on the delivery order itself, this one wasn't made public (most aren't public) so you can only assume it's somewhere around the contract minimums. It should be autogated, and it was probably a military delivery tube.
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I agree with what you have posted on that tube. however, i would like to note that at the time when that tube was manufactured and sold under contract, Exelis was the Company that was in charge of ITT tube production. Harris took over on 29 May 2015 from Excelis. On 1 July 2015 they did some "restructuring" which as I was told meant a bunch of Excelis folks being laid off, thereby reducing the workforce. just thought id add that for anyone who may not have known the takeover date and or about the layoff of experienced employees that happened almost immediately after Harris took over.
Link Posted: 2/23/2018 2:05:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By dts-blackout25:
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I agree with what you have posted on that tube. however, i would like to note that at the time when that tube was manufactured and sold under contract, Exelis was the Company that was in charge of ITT tube production. Harris took over on 29 May 2015 from Excelis. On 1 July 2015 they did some "restructuring" which as I was told meant a bunch of Excelis folks being laid off, thereby reducing the workforce. just thought id add that for anyone who may not have known the takeover date and or about the layoff of experienced employees that happened almost immediately after Harris took over.
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Good to know, I never knew when the takeover happened.
Link Posted: 2/24/2018 12:34:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/24/2018 12:35:12 PM EDT by abomb5800]
I have a tube that needs ID'ed. From what I can read through the optic this is what I can see,

mfg 13576
403779
cad0017
Link Posted: 2/24/2018 10:04:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By awptickes:
Good to know, I never knew when the takeover happened.i
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Originally Posted By awptickes:
Originally Posted By dts-blackout25:
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I agree with what you have posted on that tube. however, i would like to note that at the time when that tube was manufactured and sold under contract, Exelis was the Company that was in charge of ITT tube production. Harris took over on 29 May 2015 from Excelis. On 1 July 2015 they did some "restructuring" which as I was told meant a bunch of Excelis folks being laid off, thereby reducing the workforce. just thought id add that for anyone who may not have known the takeover date and or about the layoff of experienced employees that happened almost immediately after Harris took over.
Good to know, I never knew when the takeover happened.i
Ya i thought it was something worth noting as it seemed like the exact takeover date wasnt clear and somewhat unknown by many.

I have a tube that needs ID'ed. From what I can read through the optic this is what I can see,

mfg 13576
403779
cad0017
Need a bit more info off the tube to give a positive ID on the tube. The data you were able to read and provide here onll tells that it is an ITT tube dated to the 17th week of 2000. date falls within the OMNi 5 contract era, but without knowing the actial contract number on the back the tube it cant be said that it is an Omni 5 era tube with any degree of certainty as the CAD doesnt always correlate with the tubes OMNI Contract number. often times tubes are made during more recent OMNI eras to fulfill a contract order from an Earlier OMNI Contract. So this makes using the CAD unreliable as a way to determine what OMNi a tube falls under to determine minimum spec requirements.
Link Posted: 3/9/2018 11:28:00 AM EDT
Bought an MX-10160 off the EE. ITTs website tells me it’s an autogated PINNACLE tube but I’m curious about when it was mfg if possible. There’s only 2 numbers on the tube.

F9800FG
Serial No. 3593406
Link Posted: 3/9/2018 4:44:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By spectre3:
Bought an MX-10160 off the EE. ITTs website tells me it’s an autogated PINNACLE tube but I’m curious about when it was mfg if possible. There’s only 2 numbers on the tube.

F9800FG
Serial No. 3593406
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You could try calling Harris. There's just not enough information based on what you posted.
Link Posted: 3/9/2018 6:12:49 PM EDT
This is the most info you’re going to get without an actual spec sheet. It’s a good tube.

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Originally Posted By spectre3:
Bought an MX-10160 off the EE. ITTs website tells me it’s an autogated PINNACLE tube but I’m curious about when it was mfg if possible. There’s only 2 numbers on the tube.

F9800FG
Serial No. 3593406
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Link Posted: 3/11/2018 12:26:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By spectre3:
Bought an MX-10160 off the EE. ITTs website tells me it’s an autogated PINNACLE tube but I’m curious about when it was mfg if possible. There’s only 2 numbers on the tube.

F9800FG
Serial No. 3593406
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ITT serial numbers seem to roughly ascending over the years with large breaks in sequence.

From what I've seen, your tube is probably from late 2008.
Link Posted: 3/25/2018 1:01:33 AM EDT
I bought a used tube on eBay that came in an ENVIS housing.

It has the following information:

KM 272069-8
SN: 751225 DC 04 07

On the opposite side it has the following written on it in sharpie:

1466369 9801x e-1

Compared to my XD4 reject I got from chosos on EE, it has slightly higher resolution and a bit better extreme low light performance. However not the large difference that I'd expect between a thinfilmed gen III and a ~XD4 tube.

From digging online, it seems to be a F9800 series tube. Does anyone have anymore information on it?
Link Posted: 3/26/2018 1:03:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cajer:
I bought a used tube on eBay that came in an ENVIS housing.

It has the following information:

KM 272069-8
SN: 751225 DC 04 07

From digging online, it seems to be a F9800 series tube. Does anyone have anymore information on it?
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Not much more info to add. ENVIS tubes are typically rejected ANVIS tubes. The rejection criteria was pretty stringent and was often for minor things like tiny blems. Otherwise they're very healthy and very nice tubes. They tend to be Omni 4 era thick film tubes with a DC power supply. Tough and nice tubes. I'd never look down on one.
Link Posted: 3/28/2018 4:00:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cajer:
I bought a used tube on eBay that came in an ENVIS housing.

It has the following information:

KM 272069-8
SN: 751225 DC 04 07

On the opposite side it has the following written on it in sharpie:

1466369 9801x e-1

Compared to my XD4 reject I got from chosos on EE, it has slightly higher resolution and a bit better extreme low light performance. However not the large difference that I'd expect between a thinfilmed gen III and a ~XD4 tube.

From digging online, it seems to be a F9800 series tube. Does anyone have anymore information on it?
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Thinfilm, non-autogated, Select Alpha f9800. Not bad tubes, most of them are VERY clear in low-light. I wish I had the foresight to buy up every single envis I saw offered for sale years ago.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/How-to-tell-what-type-of-tube-you-have/18-426658/?page=8#i4845738
Link Posted: 4/2/2018 2:06:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/2/2018 2:07:28 PM EDT by ChandlerKJ]
MX-11769/UV
CAD 0824
MFR 13567
W15P7T-04-A-J208
Link Posted: 4/4/2018 11:35:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/12/2018 8:12:47 PM EDT by Sdsu619]
See below
Link Posted: 4/5/2018 9:42:49 AM EDT
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Could I get help with this one?

MX-10160A
Contract No - W15P7T-04-A-J208
ID No. 80063-A3256389
Warranty Exp Aug 07
CAD 0626
MFR 13567
Link Posted: 4/12/2018 7:28:29 PM EDT
Help with this?

http://i63.tinypic.com/120mngg.jpg

Could be under NSN 5855015489651?

ASSY 245180-907

The charts are under MX-10160B, but this has a WG designation
Link Posted: 4/19/2018 2:25:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sdsu619:
Help with this?

http://i63.tinypic.com/120mngg.jpg

Could be under NSN 5855015489651?

ASSY 245180-907

The charts are under MX-10160B, but this has a WG designation
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Looks like an L3 mx10160 auto-gain tube, and I'd suspect it's not a mx10160b, but a mx10160WG, which is actually an F9800WG. @DTSBlackout25 can probably expand upon this better.
Link Posted: 4/19/2018 3:00:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TravelingMan0491:
Could I get help with this one?

MX-10160A
Contract No - W15P7T-04-A-J208
ID No. 80063-A3256389
Warranty Exp Aug 07
CAD 0626
MFR 13567
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Excellis manufacture, non-autogated. manufactured 26th week of 2006, delivered to the army.
Link Posted: 4/20/2018 10:54:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By awptickes:

Excellis manufacture, non-autogated. manufactured 26th week of 2006, delivered to the army.
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awptickes,

Thank you. I was also wondering which omni contract it would've fallen under. I'm thinking Omni IV.
Link Posted: 4/20/2018 2:54:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TravelingMan0491:

awptickes,

Thank you. I was also wondering which omni contract it would've fallen under. I'm thinking Omni IV.
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That was an omnibus 6 contract number, but where it gets odd is that the part number you posted is on the omnibus 4 and 5 contracts. Without seeing the actual BPA calls, I can't say for sure how that tube was ordered, and what the deal is with it. It's technically delivered under omnibus 6.

PN 80063-A3256389 was Omnibus 4 and 5. That wasn't specifically spelled out in omnibus 6, however, there were a number of AN/AVS-6 CLINs on that contract, so I suspect the MX-10160a tubes in those AN/AVS-6 devices were just pulled off the shelf because they met the omnibus 6 delivery order specifications already, and installed, shipped, and got accepted.
Link Posted: 4/20/2018 10:28:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By awptickes:

Looks like an L3 mx10160 auto-gain tube, and I'd suspect it's not a mx10160b, but a mx10160WG, which is actually an F9800WG. @DTSBlackout25 can probably expand upon this better.
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Thanks! Any info is much appreciated. I tried to reach out to DTSBlackout25 but the forum doesn't recognize him or a similar variation of that Username?
Link Posted: 4/22/2018 2:04:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sdsu619:
Thanks! Any info is much appreciated. I tried to reach out to DTSBlackout25 but the forum doesn't recognize him or a similar variation of that Username?
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Originally Posted By Sdsu619:
Originally Posted By awptickes:

Looks like an L3 mx10160 auto-gain tube, and I'd suspect it's not a mx10160b, but a mx10160WG, which is actually an F9800WG. @DTSBlackout25 can probably expand upon this better.
Thanks! Any info is much appreciated. I tried to reach out to DTSBlackout25 but the forum doesn't recognize him or a similar variation of that Username?
Looks like the dash is missing between the DTS and The last part of my handle and thats why It wasnt recognized. It was close tho. Anyways what you have is a 10160WG or weapons grade tube installed in what looks like a pvs-15? Or 18? The picture was small on my phone and I couldnt tell which of those units it was installed in for sure. Anyways the qeapons grade L-3 tubes are basically the same as in comparison to similar L-3 non-weapons grade tubes except for that the halo will be much larger on the weapns grade. the halo is dertermined by the distance between the MCP and the Photocathode. The farther the MCP is away from the PC the greater the halo value. The closer the MCP is to the PC the smalller the halo value. So weapons grade tubes have halo values much greater than the normal contract tubes becausethey are made for use in units mounted on a weapons platform. The reason halo value matters alot for tubes installed in weapon mounted systems is because of the way the mcp is secured inside the tube it is very rigid around the entire circumference, but thw center of the MCP is still flexible and can be forced backwards and or forwards from any type of lateral shock or force that is subjected to the tube,ssuch as recoil from a rifle that is caused by high pressure expelling gasses from the muzzle after the round exits. if the distance is very short between the MCP and The PC when the shock of the recoil is felt, it is very probable that if the recoil force is to great the MCP center will flex forward as the tube construct, that the MCP is secured inside of, is forced rearward. often this results in the mcp striking the photocathode and causing a large black burn mark in the center of the image, rendering it unusable in all likelyhood. If the tube has an ion barrier film their will also be a giant smear left around the burn mark in the center of the image causing the tube to be even more unusable than if it was formless usually. So there are weapons grade tubes made in order to reduce the chance of this happening. these tubes have larger halos than the normal.tubes and the halo size can be used to figure out roughly how much distance is between the PC and MCP. This can be done by taking the halo value of the tube and multiplying it by 4 or so times. This may not be exact, but should be close to the actual measurement. Also Autogated power suplies are not the best choice for weapon mounted tubes because the way an autogated tube works, in that it is constantly turning the tube on and off many times a second in order to keep the photocathode voltage at it optimum operating voltage to allow for greater resolution in high light environments, causes the gradient in the electrostatic field between the MCP and the PC to experience constant changes nstead of remaining constant like in a DC power supply. These changes in the electeostatic field are constantly pushing and pulling at the center of the MCP causing the center to flex back and forth very rapidly at all times which causes the signature whine that is audible and heard cominf from most autogated tubes. So if the lateral force from a heavy recoil event coinsides with the forward flexion at the centerbof the MCP in an autogated tube then almost certainly their will be contact between the mcp and the Phtocathode and damge will occur. If a tube with an autogated power supply is going to be mounted on weapon chambered in 5.56 NATO/.223 REM then it should have a halo value of at least 1.30 and as the calibers of the rifle to be used get larger, so should the halo value of the tube. to use a tube with the least risk of damage on a rigle chambered in 7.62 the halo value has to increase to around 1.65mm-1.75mm. And DC power supplies will always be the best choice for a tube that will see most of its use while mounted on a weapon.

Why a weapons grade tube would be installed in a pvs-15 is most likely because the original tube went bad and the WG tube was all that the person who did the swap had available at the time. What does the data label on the tube in the other side's MHA read?.
Link Posted: 4/23/2018 2:48:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bigbear_98:

I have an older version of this tube. I found the same information you stated but Would mine be Autogated as well? Very happy with this one btw.

MX-11769/UV
ID NO 80063-A3297310
NSN 5855-01-504-4590
CAGE 55311
CONTR DAAB07-02-C-J010
CAD 06/19
WAR EXP. Jul 09
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Any info?
Link Posted: 4/24/2018 9:03:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By awptickes:

That was an omnibus 6 contract number, but where it gets odd is that the part number you posted is on the omnibus 4 and 5 contracts. Without seeing the actual BPA calls, I can't say for sure how that tube was ordered, and what the deal is with it. It's technically delivered under omnibus 6.

PN 80063-A3256389 was Omnibus 4 and 5. That wasn't specifically spelled out in omnibus 6, however, there were a number of AN/AVS-6 CLINs on that contract, so I suspect the MX-10160a tubes in those AN/AVS-6 devices were just pulled off the shelf because they met the omnibus 6 delivery order specifications already, and installed, shipped, and got accepted.
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Thanks again awptickes.
Link Posted: 4/28/2018 3:20:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/3/2018 12:20:52 AM EDT by paladin5150]
Any detailed info on the EXELIS NV5050A-X7C ??

It's in my Sightmark SM14064

Thanks,

Aaron
Link Posted: 5/2/2018 1:19:31 AM EDT
I have the Exelis NV5050A tube as well. I read a response where it is autogated. Is there any other info about them? I purchased it in a Sightmark PVS14 LE version monocular.

Thanks for any info? Just could find anything while looking it up.
Link Posted: 5/9/2018 9:17:50 AM EDT
Hello everyone,

I'm plannig to buy one of these units:

PVS 14

tube

MX11769/uv
ID No. 80063-A3297320
CONTR. NO. W9124Q-05-D-0821
MFR 13567
CAD 1538
WARRANTY EXP. MAR17
(Probably OMNI VII ag.)

OR

PVS 14

tube

MX11769/uv
ID NO. 80063-A3297320
CONTR. NO. M67854-03-C-6022
MFR 13567
CAD 0849
WARRANTY EXP. JAN10
(I'd not found any info on this tube.)

Which one would you take and why?
I like that top CAD 1538 tube more, because of newer mfg. date, but maybe, you'll have another feeling.
Thanks a lot for any opinion.
Link Posted: 5/12/2018 9:33:26 PM EDT
Cage 55311
Cad Warr EXP
Nsn 5855-01-504-4590
ID no. 80063-A-3297310
Mx11769 NV

Any info
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