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Posted: 11/13/2009 12:27:11 PM EDT
| This has probably been discussed hundreds of times but here is my question. I have a Cobb/Bushmaster BA50 I want to put a 8x32x50mm scope on it but dont know if I need medium or high rings on it. I have no problem removing the front rail to get a lower profile mount. Also any suggestions on rings I know Badger, Smith Enterprises Rings are some of the best but $270 is a tad much for my wallet right now. Thanks |
| I appreciate the input KD185 but the question was for people with experience with Cobb/Bushmaster BA50's not someone who used their Bohica Arms upper on their only ar-15 lower and buying a DPMS .308 upper to throw in the mix just for shits and giggles. Why is the question I asked a far stretch from the other questions asked on this forum when you have 32 responses to "my first .50" I don't think my question is too complicated to answer expecially if I'm your neighbor and sighting in my rifle. I wouldn't want those MOA's being too far off and missing the backstop. So is there anyone out there who wants to help or am I dealing with retards like KD185 here and have to find a place to go with educated indivudals who want to help a newbie out. Thanks |
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I appreciate the input KD185 but the question was for people with experience with Cobb/Bushmaster BA50's not someone who used their Bohica Arms upper on their only ar-15 lower and buying a DPMS .308 upper to throw in the mix just for shits and giggles. Why is the question I asked a far stretch from the other questions asked on this forum when you have 32 responses to "my first .50" I don't think my question is too complicated to answer expecially if I'm your neighbor and sighting in my rifle. I wouldn't want those MOA's being too far off and missing the backstop. So is there anyone out there who wants to help or am I dealing with retards like KD185 here and have to find a place to go with educated indivudals who want to help a newbie out. Thanks Dude get off your high fucking horse! He's asking what sort of MOA you need. Evidently you haven't considered that as part of your build plan. The amount of MOA you need will determine just what you need. He's only offering a solution depending on what you need which is obvious, you don't know. |
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I appreciate the input KD185 but the question was for people with experience with Cobb/Bushmaster BA50's not someone who used their Bohica Arms upper on their only ar-15 lower and buying a DPMS .308 upper to throw in the mix just for shits and giggles. Why is the question I asked a far stretch from the other questions asked on this forum when you have 32 responses to "my first .50" I don't think my question is too complicated to answer expecially if I'm your neighbor and sighting in my rifle. I wouldn't want those MOA's being too far off and missing the backstop. So is there anyone out there who wants to help or am I dealing with retards like KD185 here and have to find a place to go with educated indivudals who want to help a newbie out. Thanks What is your problem? You need to chill with that attitude. A Bushmaster has a flat rail and uses an AR-stock...similar to a Bohica. I agree with KD185's response. Those MSP rings have slope built in which is ideal for a Bushy. Much better than putting some extra base crap on there that is just one more joint to fail. And I absolutely agree, if you need to, by all means remove the front rail. It's easy to do...only a few machine screws based upon the Bushy I looked at. Generally, i'd suggest High rings for that sort of setup if I were using conventional rings. I like the Burris Extremes...they're about $50/pair and have six screws per ring. Never had them move holding my Nightforce. Another option, about $150 is the Nightforce 1-piece scope base with 20 MOA built in. Also, folks are saying the like the Larue QD-mount that is made specifically for 50's, has 30 MOA built in, and three heavy duty cross bolts. It's pretty pricey though. -David Edgewood, NM |
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I appreciate the input KD185 but the question was for people with experience with Cobb/Bushmaster BA50's not someone who used their Bohica Arms upper on their only ar-15 lower and buying a DPMS .308 upper to throw in the mix just for shits and giggles. Why is the question I asked a far stretch from the other questions asked on this forum when you have 32 responses to "my first .50" I don't think my question is too complicated to answer expecially if I'm your neighbor and sighting in my rifle. I wouldn't want those MOA's being too far off and missing the backstop. So is there anyone out there who wants to help or am I dealing with retards like KD185 here and have to find a place to go with educated indivudals who want to help a newbie out. Thanks where did that come from? i gave you some HONEST help MOA has NOTHING to do with what kind of a rifle your using for what its worth i have several ar lowers and i dont own a 308 upper and for a newbie it was good help depending on what your going to use this rifle for you and the scope you chose you may need to add some moa in the mount/rings so excuse me for saying this and no personal attack implied 5 posts and all of a sudden your to smart for us sorry i tried to help |
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Yea what KD said ... with that type of shitty attitude your not going to get much productive help here. I would suggest moving on to a different forum since obviously we are not smart enough for you here. My recommendation for your rifle is that you mount a whole bunch of "shut the #$@ up" and learn a little respect for your fellow shooters. If you would of spoke to anyone, at any range like that you would be lucky to be leaving with all your teeth in tact. It continues to amaze me how people treat others when they are able to hide behind a computer screen. Sorta lets you in on what type of person they truly are ... I would recommend locking this forum before it gets really fired up, or someone performs a little wall-to-wall counseling. Sarg |
| my apoglies I am sorry for flying off the handle I had an arguement with my wife and when I went for some time to myself I misunderstood kd's response. I thought he was mocking me I have never seen a rear scope ring have butt sects with a front one . But if it works I can live with it. As for the MOA hell I have no idea I guess there is something else to consider. only shooting out to 600 yards. I try not to look down my nose to anyone. much love to boca, ar-lowers and .308 uppers. So the FU's have been accepted and the high horse is back in the stable can anyone help from here. thanks |
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what scope or how much moa adjustment does your scope have? 2nd off not for nothing but i dont know what your hard on is for bohica but i never mentioned it so i dont know where you come up throwing that in the ring (not that i understand how that has anything to do with anything) 3rd off when you can out shot me then you have an opinion i can respect and ask anyone who knows me i have some concept of whats going on here |
| Although not specific to the original question (Bushmaster rifle), what is the best overall scope ring height for most .50s? The set-up would be a Serbu BFG50 with a Super Sniper 10x42 with 30mm tube. I'm not sure whether to buy medium or high rings and don't want to spend more than $50-75. |
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high
edit sorry about just commenting "high" before but i was in the grocery store on my phone between the over all length on a good scope for the 50 or precision rifles and any cant on the rings or mount and the extra height of a cheek piece high or extra high would be the way to go |
I'm gonna remind you that with a shitty attitude your thread will be closed. Just remember that the guys here are willing to help but as soon as the shitty attitude comes out, the help usually goes out the window.
You need to consider a few things when you pick your rings, you need to know how low you can mount it considering the size of the scope, most importantly the bell. You need to get it high enough so that it won't come into contact with the receiver or barrel. On some rifles with adjustable cheekrests, if your scope is to low and your cheekrest is adjusted for it, the bolt handle might hit the cheekrest and you won't be able to fully open the bolt. Most guys run high or super high rings so that everything clears, there are quite a few Bushmaster/Cobb50 threads which you can go through to see if your answer is there. I don't own one (bushy) but with the size of scope you mention you should do fine with a set of high rings. I run Leupold Mk-IV rings on my .50 and they work great, scope has never moved since I mounted it more then 8 years ago. They're kinda spendy also but not as much as Badgers. Even with a flat base, if you have enough MOA in the scope you can get out to 1000 yards. If you plan on shooting further then that you'll need to go with a sloped base, past 1000 yards a 15 or 20 will help, past 1500 a 30 and to get out to 2000+ a 50 MOA base. Just more things to think about depending on what and how far you're shooting. Another side affect to sloped bases is that depending on the amount, it will adversly affect how close of a target you can shoot at. With a 50 MOA base you'll never be able to adjust your scope down enough to hit a 100 yard target, heck you probably won't even be able to adjust it down to hit a 300 yard target. See how things get complicated real quick? |
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You could checkout Barrett's EXRINGS ($230). They can be setup for 15 or 45 MOA.
This would give you some flexibility and they're tall enough to clear a 56mm objective. Barrett's solid extra tall rings ($200) will allow clearance for up to a 56mm objective as well. These rings are very robust and well made. Go to www.barrettrifles.com and click the optics icon. |
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These are the rings I have on my 50, http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=612622 |
For what it's worth, attitude is a problem around here with far worse people than you. Bitching about attitude here is a bit like complaining about liberal, fat women on "The View"! I have a Bushmaster BA-50. Here is my setup.
Now I'll attempt to explain it. I'm running Smith Enterprise Rings with a Smith Enterprise Steel AR-15 base. My reason for this is because I'm not sure if the Bushnell Elite 3200 5-15X is going to be my long term scope. I want the option to be able to go to a 30 MM tube and a 56 MM objective front lens. With this setup I can do that by simply losing the 1" ring bushings. I can also lose, or add a longer sun shade to the existing scope. I've been shooting long enough to know that it pays to leave your options open. You will see worse ring and base set ups, but do the right thing the first time. You can always buy a "better" scope. I'm not so sure more money equals "better". I'm seeing a lot of good glass coming off the pacific rim these days for a lot less than Leupold has been used to charging lately. Remember, all Lemmings swim in the same direction. Good Shooting, Bill T. |
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