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Posted: 1/19/2017 9:19:06 PM EDT
| A buddy of mine asked if I could load some 9mm up for him if he brought me some powder and bullets. I personally use Winchester 231 for mine, and he bought Power Pistol, which I can't find a whole lot of data on in my manuals. The bullets he supplied are ACME coated 9mm 124 gr, as seen Here. I cannot find anything as to what charge I should put in these....if I had to guess I would do about 5.8 gr, but I don't like guessing when it comes to reloading, especially when its not for me and I'm helping a friend out. Anyone able to provide any help? |
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I have loaded home cast powder coated bullets. I believe the store bought "coated" load the same.
So what you want is 124/5 gr data for a cast bullet. Lyman 50 page 401, 120 gr cast RN(close), OAL 1.065, Power Pistol; start 5.0 grs for 1107 fps, max 5.6 grs for 1190 fps. You are not using the same bullet, so therefore begin loading at the "start" load and work up carefully. I hope you are the very careful type of reloader as I would never experiment on ammo I load for a buddy. When I load with a buddy (NW556), he is there dropping powder and running the press. With coated bullets you need more bell and ensure the OAL is correct (short enough) for the pistol being loaded for. In 9mm I had to reduce my OAL's so my powder coated loads would not jam into the rifling. Good luck. |
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I am going to say things that may be taken the wrong way, but I don't mean any insult:
If you are loading lead bullets, ANY lead bullet data for that cartridge and that bullet weight is good to go. You start at the start load and work up. As soon as the gun, powder lot number, bullet, cases, primers, or COL varies from what was used in the manual, the max load will shift up or down, but the start load is selected in the belief that it will be safe in all. I check several sources and start at the lowest start load. If you are loading plated bullets, start with the start load for lead bullets. You can't just select a load for your friend, it needs to be worked up. Next, you can't LEGALLY load for your friend, unless you have an ammo-manufacturer's FFL. Ask the BATFE. I know that with my bullets and my lot of Power Pistol, 124gn bullets and 6.0gn of PP is accurate and shows no pressure signs. I also know some who have found 6.0gn to be over-max in their guns with their component mix, and consider 5.0gn to be near-ideal. Others have exceeded 6.0gn and claim no pressure signs or increase recoil compared to factory ammo. Thus, you test YOUR components in YOUR guns and don't assume someone else's results will match what you get. Finally, just asking the questions means that you may not know enough to have others shooting YOUR reloads, and I'll bet your liability insurance won't cover you. I have been loading for over 40 years, and I won't load for someone else (except family, when I am with them, and those loads are always LIGHT loads that I have shot personally for years and in those particular guns). |
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With my 124gr gr cast bullets load I run 5.2gr of PP loaded to 1.13 OAL. Works well and is quite accurate in my pistols.
When someone asks for me to load ammo for them I use it as a teaching opportunity. I have them purchase all the components and we sit down and load the ammo together. I set everything up beforehand and have a known load that I've used before already selected. I then explain the reloading process, go over some safety rules and explain the importance of visually verifying the charge in each case. I then start out the first 50 rounds or so and and then let them take the wheel while I sit there and monitor the entire time. I like the 1050 for this because of the priming in the downstroke. I've used my 650 before with newbies and the pressing forward to seat the primer always causes issues. Throughout the loading session we are doing QC via case gauge checks, OAL checks and verifying accurate powder drops. I helped several people load 1k round lots without a single issue. After this they are usually hooked on reloading or never want to do it again. |
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OAL will be specifically dictated by the ogive of your bullet, which is highly variable with cast bullets. I've loaded 125gr cast RN @ 1.150" but other 125gr cast LRN had to be loaded at 1.080".
There is TONS of data out there for 9mm with Power Pistol. It's an excellent powder for 9mm. |
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Quoted:
I am going to say things that may be taken the wrong way, but I don't mean any insult: If you are loading lead bullets, ANY lead bullet data for that cartridge and that bullet weight is good to go. You start at the start load and work up. As soon as the gun, powder lot number, bullet, cases, primers, or COL varies from what was used in the manual, the max load will shift up or down, but the start load is selected in the belief that it will be safe in all. I check several sources and start at the lowest start load. If you are loading plated bullets, start with the start load for lead bullets. You can't just select a load for your friend, it needs to be worked up. Next, you can't LEGALLY load for your friend, unless you have an ammo-manufacturer's FFL. Ask the BATFE. I know that with my bullets and my lot of Power Pistol, 124gn bullets and 6.0gn of PP is accurate and shows no pressure signs. I also know some who have found 6.0gn to be over-max in their guns with their component mix, and consider 5.0gn to be near-ideal. Others have exceeded 6.0gn and claim no pressure signs or increase recoil compared to factory ammo. Thus, you test YOUR components in YOUR guns and don't assume someone else's results will match what you get. Finally, just asking the questions means that you may not know enough to have others shooting YOUR reloads, and I'll bet your liability insurance won't cover you. I have been loading for over 40 years, and I won't load for someone else (except family, when I am with them, and those loads are always LIGHT loads that I have shot personally for years and in those particular guns). Isn't it illegal only if he is selling the loaded ammunition to his friend? |
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