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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Group Industries SS M16 quick question?

Posted: 10/2/2008 7:53:52 PM EDT

What type of steel are they made of?
I remember a old thread on the subject but don't remember the details.

Posted: 10/3/2008 9:42:36 AM EDT

[#1]

17-4ph stainless steel.

Posted: 10/6/2008 5:30:53 PM EDT

[#2]

Thanks Tony I assume thats a very strong metal?

Posted: 10/6/2008 7:46:24 PM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
Thanks Tony I assume thats a very strong metal?

I'm not a metalurgist. I am told that that this metal has a Rockwell hardness of 45 and is aircraft-quality steel, the same metal used for jet engine fan blades.

Regardless of the details, GI SS receivers are way, way tougher than milspec Colt or other M16 receivers.

Posted: 10/7/2008 4:53:32 AM EDT

[#4]

Well I got two on the way now consecutive SN#s.:) Just hope they are in spec. One is new and still stripped and the other has the FCG and stock. Was told it runs 100%.

I found my old thread on the subject I posted way back when but can bring it up.

Posted: 10/7/2008 7:59:26 AM EDT

[#5]

Wow! Congrats! You now own 2% of the total production of SS receivers.

Almost everything is worth more in pairs.

Posted: 10/7/2008 9:29:15 AM EDT

[#6]

Thanks Tony but I got a long ways to go before they are mine. The form 3 was just sent out to transfer to my dealer. Think form 3 are taking about a month. Once it gets to my dealer I don't really care how long the wait is since I do most my shooting there. I have been waiting about 3 months now for a form 4 to a form 3 my dealer and the wait is killing me:(. Those are 2 consecutive# HK DLO trigger boxes btw;)

I will post pics when they arrive. The main concern is the lowers being out of spec. Is there anyway to dig up my old thread so I can go over it again or is that against the rules??

Posted: 10/7/2008 11:16:50 AM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
Is there anyway to dig up my old thread so I can go over it again??

I just checked the archives and couldn't find it ... do you happen to remember the name of the thread? Nothing for SS and GI that I can find....

Posted: 10/7/2008 11:21:40 AM EDT

[#8]

I started the thread and I think it was group industries stainless steel receiver questions.

Thanks,
Andre

Posted: 10/7/2008 12:24:43 PM EDT

[#9]

Try this link -- I'm not sure if only Team Members can access it, but I know that only team members can search the archives (hint, hint! If you can afford MGs, you can afford to join the team here -- supporting ar15.com means we can stay available to answer your questions).

archive.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=23&t=220657

Posted: 10/7/2008 1:26:35 PM EDT

[#10]

gottcha I have been working off my phone all this time and it's a pain to reply and search things.

Posted: 10/10/2008 7:16:59 AM EDT

[#11]

As an owner of a Group Ind SS lower, I can tell you mine is in perfect spec. I've had mine for almost 20 years and its still in perfect shape. paid double the price back when lowers were 600 bucks. Fell into it without really realizing what I was buying. Brings a smile to my face

Posted: 10/10/2008 8:08:59 AM EDT

[#12]

Here is one that just sold on subguns.com...

Link

tony, do you own any of these yourself?

Posted: 10/10/2008 8:14:58 AM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
Here is one that just sold on subguns.com...

Link

tony, do you own any of these yourself?

Yes that is who I purchased my recievers from. The add does not say it but he has 5 of them consecutive SN#s all stripped except for the one pictured. I purchased 2 and think he sold one other one. He is only keeping 1 for himself so I think one stripped lower is still for sale.:)

Posted: 10/10/2008 8:15:09 AM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
tony, do you own any of these yourself?

<envy> Man, I wish I did... </envy>

They always popped up when I didn't have the $$$, and hid from me when I did have it.

Posted: 10/10/2008 8:40:19 AM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:

Yes that is who I purchased my recievers from. The add does not say it but he has 5 of them consecutive SN#s all stripped except for the one pictured. I purchased 2 and think he sold one other one. He is only keeping 1 for himself so I think one stripped lower is still for sale.:)

How much do they go for?

Posted: 10/10/2008 9:04:52 AM EDT

[#16]

Around 14k a pop. Some would say buy a real Colt for that kind of money but the benifits of a steel lower makes it worth it for me. Ones geting dedicated to 22lr and maybe 5.7x28 with a side folding stock and the other one will be setup for .223/5.56. My rdias is going to be put in a MGI lower with a shorty AK upper if I can ever find a 7.5" upper.

I am planning on shooting the crap out of these and don't want to worry about destroying them. I have had a kaboom with my Colt rr and that honestly scared the shit out of me. Luckily my upper only blew up and lower was not harmed. Hopefully the steel lowers can take more abuse.

Posted: 10/10/2008 9:31:14 AM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
I am planning on shooting the crap out of these and don't want to worry about destroying them. I have had a kaboom with my Colt rr and that honestly scared the shit out of me. Luckily my upper only blew up and lower was not harmed. Hopefully the steel lowers can take more abuse.

thats my reasoning for keeping mine....nothing short of a hand grenade is gonna hurt it, and for the money spent on a 16 lower...its good insurance.

Posted: 10/21/2008 10:24:15 AM EDT

[#18]

Wow guys the form 3 to transfer to my dealer are already approved. It's only been about 2 weeks for approval;) Now i got to send the rest of the funds. Hopefully the recievers will be at my dealers by Sunday so I can play with them and snap some pics for you guys.:)

Posted: 10/21/2008 10:56:28 AM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:
Wow guys the form 3 to transfer to my dealer are already approved. It's only been about 2 weeks for approval;) Now i got to send the rest of the funds. Hopefully the recievers will be at my dealers by Sunday so I can play with them and snap some pics for you guys.:)

Looking forward to it!

Posted: 10/25/2008 6:15:36 PM EDT

[#20]

No luck guys will have to wait till next Sunday.

Posted: 11/2/2008 3:58:00 PM EDT

[#21]

Here are some pics.

Posted: 11/3/2008 3:17:44 AM EDT

[#22]

Pretty sweet. What is up with the RDIAS? Did you get THREE new toys?!!!

Posted: 11/3/2008 4:27:27 AM EDT

[#23]

That RDIAS looks familar. Billistics?

Posted: 11/3/2008 8:14:16 AM EDT

[#24]

I have had that Dias for a while now and for the first time in a while it got neglected at the range LOL. Yes Vlodpg it's a Billistics like the one you have. If we put our rdias next to each other they would be conseutive SN#s.;)

Posted: 11/3/2008 9:35:50 AM EDT

[#25]

very nice!

Posted: 11/6/2008 6:15:56 PM EDT

[#26]

Somewhat of bad news guys I think im putting up 1 or both up for sale:( Funds needed bad!

Posted: 11/7/2008 5:29:22 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:
Somewhat of bad news guys I think im putting up 1 or both up for sale:( Funds needed bad!

I'm interested, email/PM me.

Posted: 12/26/2008 7:46:23 PM EDT

[#28]

Well just my luck I sold one of the receivers to purchase some land to have my own personal shooting/hunting range and the deal didn't work out. But the good news is I found another Group Ind. lower lol. Now just got to wait for another transfer.:(

And congrats to the board member that snagged one of my lowers.

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