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Posted: 8/14/2010 4:06:57 PM EDT
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I'm about to load .45acp golden sabers and I'm a bit confused on the "Drive Band", and OAL. Here's my plan so far: 230 gr Remington GS HP38 5.3 gr OAL: 1.235 CCI 300 I'll be shooting these out of a 4" 1911. Opinions? Thanks. ETA: I should have pointed out; I'm starting @ 4.8 grains; working up. |
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Looks good so far, one book I listed the max length as 1.275, so you probably could go just a tad longer. at least from the speer manual that I have listing the max length. and Glad to hear you are working the load up. Keep lots of notes while working a load up and kep an eye out for pressure signs as well.
Keep track of which loads group nicely compared to pressure, recoil etc and you should find the load for you. Just remember every time you change one component you need to work the load up again. ie. Different powder, different weight bullet. and such. |
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I appreciate the replies. I don't have a case gage, but I did check them in the pistol, and they're chambering fine. I happen to have some factory Remington 185 gr GS rounds, and they measure 1.210. I can't find any data (in one of my actual books) regarding the Rem GS bullet. I have found the Speer HP/GD 230 grain. The Speer data shows HP-38 @ 5.3 gr fairly middle of the road, and goes up to 6.3 gr max. Is this data at all comparable to the Rem GS? |
| Factory 230 Golden Sabers that I measured were approximately 1.235". They vary a few thousandths due to the irregular tip shape of the hollow point. The driving band at that oal will be just inside the case mouth. Very lightly taper crimp just to remove all belling of the case mouth. Haven't used HP38 powder but normal copper jacketed hollow point data can be used to work up loads with the GS. The driving band design will reduce pressure some and I've found you can go a few tenths higher in powder charges compared to copper jacketed bullets. Since no published data is available careful work-ups is the way to go looking for reliable feeding and accuracy. |
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rg1: Thanks for measuring. I guess I lucked out in getting the OAL correct. I've read the same thing as far as pressures being lower in GS bullets. I'm looking forward to getting shooting results. panther301: There's a bunch of stuff I still want to get. It's on the list. Thanks. nightwolf357: You certainly have a valid point, but I wanted to see the pistol strip the cartridge from the magazine, and chamber the round. Hey, it's my first cartridge. |
| Hey I learned something too and wrote in down in my reloading log. I didn't know the overall length of the 185 gr. GS factory round. I've only loaded the 230 grain GS's. Glad you're enjoying your new hobby. Remington Golden Saber bullets are fine bullets and wish Remington, Lyman, Hodgdon, or somebody maybe would do some lab tests for their web site or manuals. They leave it to us to work up the loads like you are in the process of doing. |
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