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Posted: 5/7/2015 9:49:47 AM EDT
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I am looking at finally getting a suppressor for my HD carbine (5.56, BCM, MK 18ish). Looking for reasonable sound reduction and reasonable cost. I will probably also go with an SBR to keep the length down. Is there a do it all first time suppressor that will not leave me wanting something else right after I get it?
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The short answer is no. Everything is about compromises and which ones you want to make. Some basic questions - how short of an SBR? Do you plan on suppressing 30 cal? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Lol I got a gemtech trek, for my first can, it's not even outta jail, and I have a complex due to posts here about 5.56 cans. Eta, from what I understand this can is fine for home defense on a shorter barrel-so long as you expect there will still be sound out of any 5.56/30 cal can |
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I opted for a SilencerCo Omega as my first can. It'll handle up to .300 WM and is rated down to a 10" barrel with 5.56. It's short, light comes with both direct thread and the ASR QD mount. You can buy a flat 5.56 or 7.62 end cap of you don't like the anchor brake.
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Understood concerning jack of all trades is master of non.
SBR will be 10.5 or 11.5. Other barrels are 16" carbine and 16" mid-length. The only .30 cal is my M1a and not really concerned with suppressing that at the moment. I will eventually suppress (one of) my Glock 19, but that is another project. Looking at some threads saw that Silencer Co offer "blue label" (military) discounts, I like that. I will do a trust and put my wife and daughter on it. I think my expectations are reasonable, I have shot a few suppressed weapons, I realize they only reduce the level, some better than others. Also, my own situational expectations are reasonable, I do not see myself going Wolverine or anything...LOL Thanks again for the recs so far. Quoted:
The short answer is no. Everything is about compromises and which ones you want to make. Some basic questions - how short of an SBR? Do you plan on suppressing 30 cal? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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I went with a gemtech trek, there was a deal on GB for 295 recently that came up after i paid retail, and silver soldered to my 11.5" BCM upper so no SBR. I would also suggest an adjustable gas block before you do anything permanent. I didnt and dont want to take mine of to swap out.
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Can you tell me more about silver soldering to the barrel, creating a barrel not requiring SBR stamp?
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I went with a gemtech trek, there was a deal on GB for 295 recently that came up after i paid retail, and silver soldered to my 11.5" BCM upper so no SBR. I would also suggest an adjustable gas block before you do anything permanent. I didnt and dont want to take mine of to swap out. Form 1s for my other rifles. |
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Can you tell me more about silver soldering to the barrel, creating a barrel not requiring SBR stamp? Thanks Quoted:
Can you tell me more about silver soldering to the barrel, creating a barrel not requiring SBR stamp? Thanks Quoted:
I went with a gemtech trek, there was a deal on GB for 295 recently that came up after i paid retail, and silver soldered to my 11.5" BCM upper so no SBR. I would also suggest an adjustable gas block before you do anything permanent. I didnt and dont want to take mine of to swap out. Form 1s for my other rifles. I'd strongly encourage you not to go down that road, except maybe for a .300 Blkout that will be shot strictly with sub sonic and not shot often, even then I wouldnt do it. |
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I'd strongly encourage you not to go down that road, except maybe for a .300 Blkout that will be shot strictly with sub sonic and not shot often, even then I wouldnt do it. Quoted:
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Can you tell me more about silver soldering to the barrel, creating a barrel not requiring SBR stamp? Thanks Quoted:
I went with a gemtech trek, there was a deal on GB for 295 recently that came up after i paid retail, and silver soldered to my 11.5" BCM upper so no SBR. I would also suggest an adjustable gas block before you do anything permanent. I didnt and dont want to take mine of to swap out. Form 1s for my other rifles. I'd strongly encourage you not to go down that road, except maybe for a .300 Blkout that will be shot strictly with sub sonic and not shot often, even then I wouldnt do it. We JUST had this talk. There are pros and cons. Apparently silver solder at 1100* is legal. |
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We JUST had this talk. There are pros and cons. Apparently silver solder at 1100* is legal. Quoted:
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Can you tell me more about silver soldering to the barrel, creating a barrel not requiring SBR stamp? Thanks Quoted:
I went with a gemtech trek, there was a deal on GB for 295 recently that came up after i paid retail, and silver soldered to my 11.5" BCM upper so no SBR. I would also suggest an adjustable gas block before you do anything permanent. I didnt and dont want to take mine of to swap out. Form 1s for my other rifles. I'd strongly encourage you not to go down that road, except maybe for a .300 Blkout that will be shot strictly with sub sonic and not shot often, even then I wouldnt do it. We JUST had this talk. There are pros and cons. Apparently silver solder at 1100* is legal. I think it's a barrel wear or problem issue not legality issue |
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We JUST had this talk. There are pros and cons. Apparently silver solder at 1100* is legal. Quoted:
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Can you tell me more about silver soldering to the barrel, creating a barrel not requiring SBR stamp? Thanks Quoted:
I went with a gemtech trek, there was a deal on GB for 295 recently that came up after i paid retail, and silver soldered to my 11.5" BCM upper so no SBR. I would also suggest an adjustable gas block before you do anything permanent. I didnt and dont want to take mine of to swap out. Form 1s for my other rifles. I'd strongly encourage you not to go down that road, except maybe for a .300 Blkout that will be shot strictly with sub sonic and not shot often, even then I wouldnt do it. We JUST had this talk. There are pros and cons. Apparently silver solder at 1100* is legal. link 
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Can you tell me more about silver soldering to the barrel, creating a barrel not requiring SBR stamp? Thanks Quoted:
I went with a gemtech trek, there was a deal on GB for 295 recently that came up after i paid retail, and silver soldered to my 11.5" BCM upper so no SBR. I would also suggest an adjustable gas block before you do anything permanent. I didnt and dont want to take mine of to swap out. Form 1s for my other rifles. I'd strongly encourage you not to go down that road, except maybe for a .300 Blkout that will be shot strictly with sub sonic and not shot often, even then I wouldnt do it. We JUST had this talk. There are pros and cons. Apparently silver solder at 1100* is legal. I think it's a barrel wear or problem issue not legality issue Barrel wear, short sighted, penny wise pound foolish... It's just not a good idea and has zip to do with legality. |
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Can you tell me more about silver soldering to the barrel, creating a barrel not requiring SBR stamp? Thanks Quoted:
I went with a gemtech trek, there was a deal on GB for 295 recently that came up after i paid retail, and silver soldered to my 11.5" BCM upper so no SBR. I would also suggest an adjustable gas block before you do anything permanent. I didnt and dont want to take mine of to swap out. Form 1s for my other rifles. I'd strongly encourage you not to go down that road, except maybe for a .300 Blkout that will be shot strictly with sub sonic and not shot often, even then I wouldnt do it. We JUST had this talk. There are pros and cons. Apparently silver solder at 1100* is legal. link
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| So many good suggestions & great options. I wish the Dead Air Sandman S was available when I got my Saker. Still might get one. Check out Innovative Arms if your interested in a direct thread. They make nice cans at a good price point & have great customer service. I have the Grunt-m on my 5.56 shorty, been very pleased with it. |
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We have guys that only want to shoot 5.56, and have absolutely no desire at all to ever shoot 30 cal suppressed. For those clients, a 5.56 can is perfectly fine.
However, quite a few people jump into 300 Blackout after getting a suppressor... or decide to put it on their deer rifle, and things like that. If you have any amount of desire to shoot 30 cal suppressed, any at all... even a hint, I would recommend going with a 30 cal can instead of 5.56. You need to look at a few things... 1) Direct thread or quick attach. 2) Are length and weight a big consideration? 3) Do you want the absolute quietest can you can get, or is "good enough" acceptable. 4) How short a barrel will it possibly go on, and will it ever see full auto use. I would order those four questions in what is the most important to you, then answer. Once you have that list, it's much easier to narrow down what suppressor may work out well for you. There are a lot of personal decisions that some people think are far more important than others. I'm saying this as a consumer, not a sales guy, but price should be one of the last things as far as "importance." With a gun, you can sell it and take a 100-200 hit if you don't like it. A suppressor isn't so easy to flip... It's much better to find out exactly what you want, and save up for it (within reason of course) |
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5.56 specific go with Specwar 5.56 do all can, go with Specwar 7.62 you are welcome! I own both along with about a dozen others from other manufactures and those are my favorite, most used cans. This right here. Except maybe add the Specwar K 5.56 if you're trying to keep the weight down. |
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