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Posted: 7/26/2014 7:55:53 PM EDT
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SO my birthday is coming up in a few weeks and I have decided to buy my first Mosin. I don't know much of anything about Mosins. What I think I have figured out so far: Double dates, MO stamped, and Tula rifles seem to be popular. Also: counter-bore=bad, Hex receivers > round, Finns > regular. Think that about covers what I have picked up. I am looking to spend ~$200 I am ok with +/- $50 on the budget but lets not go crazy... What I do know is that I want a full sized Mosin, so no M44, T53, M39, Etc, etc. The two I have been looking really hard at are: Option 1 Option 2 Option 2 would be with the select for bore + matching numbers.
So what does everyone else think? What would be the best Mosin to buy? |
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SO my birthday is coming up in a few weeks and I have decided to buy my first Mosin. I don't know much of anything about Mosins. What I think I have figured out so far: Double dates, MO stamped, and Tula rifles seem to be popular. Also: counter-bore=bad, Hex receivers > round, Finns > regular. Think that about covers what I have picked up. I am looking to spend ~$200 I am ok with +/- $50 on the budget but lets not go crazy... What I do know is that I want a full sized Mosin, so no M44, T53, M39, Etc, etc. The two I have been looking really hard at are: Option 1 Option 2 Option 2 would be with the select for bore + matching numbers. So what does everyone else think? What would be the best Mosin to buy? Quick break down. 1. Counter bore is not necessory a deal breaker. It just means the arsenal corrected damage around the muzzle. This is usually caused by the cleaning rod and improper cleaning. 2. Hex is on par with round in terms of quality and shootablity. It all depends on what you want because the only difference is age (hex are older) and aesthetics . 3.Save you money and don't be concerned about matching numbers. Matching numbers do not mean much on a refurbished rifles. 99.9% of them are forced matched at arsenal any ways and are not orginal to the rifle. 4. Laminate 91/30 stocks were not used until the 1960s - where they were used as replacment stocks (same goes for the Russian SkS).. usually 91/30s sitting in them are heavily refurbished; but are usually very clean. I hope that helps, and good luck -Also give this site a whirl : http://www.themosincrate.com/#!firearms-for-sale/cl1 
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Do you have a welder? Then get 2 x 91/30's....
http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=14&t=376508 Build the rarest of Mosins - an Obrez.... 
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What are some traits I SHOULD look for in a Mosin?? I want something that I can shoot, is accurate, and also a good addition to my collection. Thats is an extremely broad question. Are you a shooter or a collector; or both? The most common rifle (1943 Izhevsk) are widely regarded as crazy accurate and excellent shooters.. but they are one of the most common. |
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I try to be both in balance. I like to collect. But I like to shoot everything I collect. And it has to be accurate, I get frustrated when I can't hit something I should never be able to miss. well i have never had that issue with a mosin nagant... unless you are shooting at higher ranges (100 yrds +). Thats when condition and ammo can play a part. |
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I tend to shoot at 100-600yrds. Would it be worth while to save up and get a PU sniper? Are they more accurate? With any miltary surplus rifle.. it all depends on my attributes. These rifles saw service and most saw combat in some shape or form.. so condition can be a toss up - especially on the mass imported 91/30s and especially at the ranges you wish to dance at. But in saying that ; the authentic PU's barrels were hand selected for their quality and accuracy. If you going to shoot at those ranges my suggestion is to save up for an Authentic PU. It will hold its value and give you the accuracy you are looking for as well as collectablity. http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?366910-range-report-PU-sniper-at-300-yd 
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With any miltary surplus rifle.. it all depends on my attributes. These rifles saw service and most saw combat in some shape or form.. so condition can be a toss up - especially on the mass imported 91/30s and especially at the ranges you wish to dance at. But in saying that ; the authentic PU's barrels were hand selected for their quality and accuracy. If you going to shoot at those ranges my suggestion is to save up for an Authentic PU. It will hold its value and give you the accuracy you are looking for as well as collectablity. http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?366910-range-report-PU-sniper-at-300-yd https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3840/14539669070_7d3a6a011b_b.jpg Quoted:
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I tend to shoot at 100-600yrds. Would it be worth while to save up and get a PU sniper? Are they more accurate? With any miltary surplus rifle.. it all depends on my attributes. These rifles saw service and most saw combat in some shape or form.. so condition can be a toss up - especially on the mass imported 91/30s and especially at the ranges you wish to dance at. But in saying that ; the authentic PU's barrels were hand selected for their quality and accuracy. If you going to shoot at those ranges my suggestion is to save up for an Authentic PU. It will hold its value and give you the accuracy you are looking for as well as collectablity. http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?366910-range-report-PU-sniper-at-300-yd https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3840/14539669070_7d3a6a011b_b.jpg Simo Häyhä is disappoint. 
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I tend to shoot at 100-600yrds. Would it be worth while to save up and get a PU sniper? Are they more accurate? With any miltary surplus rifle.. it all depends on my attributes. These rifles saw service and most saw combat in some shape or form.. so condition can be a toss up - especially on the mass imported 91/30s and especially at the ranges you wish to dance at. But in saying that ; the authentic PU's barrels were hand selected for their quality and accuracy. If you going to shoot at those ranges my suggestion is to save up for an Authentic PU. It will hold its value and give you the accuracy you are looking for as well as collectablity. http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?366910-range-report-PU-sniper-at-300-yd https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3840/14539669070_7d3a6a011b_b.jpg Simo Häyhä is disappoint. He used a m28; with no optics. A soviet sniper wounded him in 1940. Probably with a PE or PEM. |
| It seems impossible to find one without reproduction parts. Seems like Aim is the only ones selling authentic ones and I am on the notify me list. Guess I will just have to wait and see if they come back or not. In the mean time, is it really worth it to buy a rifle with all the MO/DDR/etc etc special stamps?? Are they worth more? Or would I be better off finding a basic 91/30 with the best bore possible? |
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It seems impossible to find one without reproduction parts. Seems like Aim is the only ones selling authentic ones and I am on the notify me list. Guess I will just have to wait and see if they come back or not. In the mean time, is it really worth it to buy a rifle with all the MO/DDR/etc etc special stamps?? Are they worth more? Or would I be better off finding a basic 91/30 with the best bore possible? MO/DDR etc.. imho - no. They are intersting but there is no documented historical provenance to back their meanings. In the end they are refurbs. If it was me i would save 100-150 more and get a m39. but thats me. http://www.mosinnagant.net/finland/finnish_mosin_nagantm39.asp Aim had authentic PU refurbs, as did classic arms for a while. Royal tiger has them but they increased prices due to the sanction against molot. Rguns too has authentics but lthey are the most expensive. |
| An M39 was my first choice, someone told me they are the most accurate, well built, and smooth Mosin you can buy. But I have no idea where to even find a good one. Let alone what the quality difference between a sako/VKT/"B" etc is. Where is a good place to look for M39's? |
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An M39 was my first choice, someone told me they are the most accurate, well built, and smooth Mosin you can buy. But I have no idea where to even find a good one. Let alone what the quality difference between a sako/VKT/"B" etc is. Where is a good place to look for M39's? 1. Forums/ (gunboards they come up ever so often) gunsnamo.com/gunbroker 2.They are all quality 3. All depends what make you want - top to bottom : 1942 B barrel 1944,VKT, 1941 Sako 
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| Every Tuesday huh... I will keep my eyes open. Cause I would love a Finn. I have 3 crates (6 cans) of Russian silver tip that I got in a trade a while back. Should I sell it and buy something else? Or is that decent Mosin food. I have a line on some Russian Sniper ammo spam cans through a friend, should I trade him mine for his? |
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I agree with getting a m39 from pat burns.
Another great shooting Mosin is the m91/59. A little harder to find now but they have one of the best triggers and smooth bolts on a refurbished rifle. The overall quality of the rebuild is above that of the m91/30s the Russians did. Because the barrel is cut down from a M91/30 to a m38/m44 length they are almost always perfect. These sell in the $300 range. 
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