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Posted: 1/12/2014 2:29:04 PM EDT
If my SOT is set up to do e forms can he E file a form 4 for a M16 to me?
Link Posted: 1/12/2014 2:50:53 PM EDT
Originally Posted By safetyoff:
If my SOT is set up to do e forms can he E file a form 4 for a M16 to me?
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Yes, it's just like any other NFA item.
Link Posted: 1/12/2014 4:03:00 PM EDT
Thank you.
Link Posted: 1/13/2014 3:16:39 AM EDT
If I'm comprehending this e-filing stuff correctly, the transfer can go via e-filing if you are using a trust or other legal entity.  If you're taking possession as a real flesh-and-blood person, you can't use it.  There's no way to do CLEO signatures, fingerprints and photos electronically.
Link Posted: 1/13/2014 3:16:33 PM EDT
And you would be correct, trust, corp only.
Link Posted: 1/13/2014 4:55:31 PM EDT
I use a Corp for all my NFA items.  I was not sure there were no special requirements for MG.
Link Posted: 1/20/2014 8:18:24 PM EDT
I had a Form 4 MG approved today from efile.
Link Posted: 1/23/2014 6:32:52 AM EDT

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I had a Form 4 MG approved today from efile.
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Time frame?



 
Link Posted: 1/23/2014 5:51:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/23/2014 5:52:36 PM EDT by SleepyLX]
Submitted 9-27.  Approved 1-13.  When I picked it up, I found out it was actually approved 1-13 but my dealer went to SHOT and didn't tell me until 1-20.

I have 2 other Form 4 machineguns that were submitted 10-22 that have not yet been approved.
Link Posted: 1/23/2014 6:20:46 PM EDT
Did a F4 last night, here's to hoping i get it approved in April
Link Posted: 1/23/2014 7:24:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/23/2014 7:24:48 PM EDT by cyborg543]
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Originally Posted By peekay:
Did a F4 last night, here's to hoping i get it approved in April https://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_shy.gif
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from dealer to you?
Link Posted: 1/24/2014 4:32:40 AM EDT

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from dealer to you?
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Originally Posted By peekay:

Did a F4 last night, here's to hoping i get it approved in April https://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_shy.gif






from dealer to you?
Mine approved on January 22 was 90 days, dealer to me.

 
Link Posted: 1/24/2014 4:38:52 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By peekay:

Did a F4 last night, here's to hoping i get it approved in April https://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_shy.gif






from dealer to you?


Yup



 
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 7:26:34 AM EDT
For you guys that did e-file MG's did you have to print off the back side of the F4 and sign it then upload it as a PDF?
I've heard rumors that this needs to be done and want to have an answer prior to seeing my SOT ...

Thanks.
Matt
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 8:32:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By mmclean:
For you guys that did e-file MG's did you have to print off the back side of the F4 and sign it then upload it as a PDF?
I've heard rumors that this needs to be done and want to have an answer prior to seeing my SOT ...
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ATF lists this as a requirement for eForm 4 on the eforms website and in their eforms bulletin.  Does not apply to silencers, only MG/SBR/SBS/DD, maybe AOW.
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 8:58:11 AM EDT
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ATF lists this as a requirement for eForm 4 on the eforms website and in their eforms bulletin.  Does not apply to silencers, only MG/SBR/SBS/DD, maybe AOW.
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Originally Posted By mmclean:



For you guys that did e-file MG's did you have to print off the back side of the F4 and sign it then upload it as a PDF?



I've heard rumors that this needs to be done and want to have an answer prior to seeing my SOT ...







ATF lists this as a requirement for eForm 4 on the eforms website and in their eforms bulletin.  Does not apply to silencers, only MG/SBR/SBS/DD, maybe AOW.
Shit really? I didn't do that but filed as a corp for Form 1 my SBR. It's coming up on 90 days now. Hope I don't have to resubmit and start over.
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 9:51:29 AM EDT
Thanks....Good to know on the E-Form 4 that I'll have to sign a copy on the back.

I had a EForm 1 approved without a signature, so I'm pretty sure its not a requirement for Form 1's.

Link Posted: 1/26/2014 3:07:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By EagleArmsHBAR:
Shit really? I didn't do that but filed as a corp for Form 1 my SBR. It's coming up on 90 days now. Hope I don't have to resubmit and start over.
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Originally Posted By Circuits:
Originally Posted By mmclean:
For you guys that did e-file MG's did you have to print off the back side of the F4 and sign it then upload it as a PDF?
I've heard rumors that this needs to be done and want to have an answer prior to seeing my SOT ...

ATF lists this as a requirement for eForm 4 on the eforms website and in their eforms bulletin.  Does not apply to silencers, only MG/SBR/SBS/DD, maybe AOW.
Shit really? I didn't do that but filed as a corp for Form 1 my SBR. It's coming up on 90 days now. Hope I don't have to resubmit and start over.

You should be able to scan it and upload it to the docs section of your pending application at any time.  It is not a requirement for eForm 1, so don't sweat that part.

mmclean:  The only part that needs to be signed/scanned on the back of eForm 4 is block 15 - transferee's certification.
Link Posted: 1/26/2014 3:48:31 PM EDT
Circuits: Thanks for the clarification on that. I'll have to print out out, sign it and scan it back as a PDF and save to bring to my SOT.

Link Posted: 1/27/2014 7:03:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By EagleArmsHBAR:
Mine approved on January 22 was 90 days, dealer to me.  
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Originally Posted By cyborg543:
Originally Posted By peekay:
Did a F4 last night, here's to hoping i get it approved in April https://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_shy.gif



from dealer to you?
Mine approved on January 22 was 90 days, dealer to me.  



just to be clear -

you got a machine gun transferred from a dealer to you in 90 days?
Link Posted: 1/27/2014 8:09:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/27/2014 8:15:09 PM EDT by SleepyLX]
I got my 2 other eForm 4 machineguns approved today.  They were filed 10-22 and approved 1-27.  And the first one was 9-27 to 1-13.  There are 3 approved eForm 4 machineguns on nfatracker.com and they are all mine.  Here are the new arrivals:



Link Posted: 1/28/2014 10:55:01 AM EDT
Very nice!  Looking to pick up a 1921 Colt Thompson next.  Have fun with them!
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