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Posted: 3/7/2014 2:22:57 PM EDT
By E-Filing you are giving USDOJ complete, unfettered access to your computer. If you don't believe me, just..................................................................................

Read this:

Welcome,
                                       Department of Justice - Standard Warning Banner

YOU ARE ACCESSING A U.S. GOVERNMENT INFORMATION SYSTEM, WHICH INCLUDES: (1) THIS COMPUTER, (2) THIS COMPUTER NETWORKING, (3) ALL COMPUTERS CONNECTED TO THIS NETWORK, AND (4) ALL DEVICES AND STORAGE MEDIA ATTACHED TO THIS NETWORK OR TO A COMPUTER ON THIS NETWORK. THIS INFORMATION SYSTEM IS PROVIDED FOR U.S. GOVERNMENT-AUTHORIZED USE ONLY.

UNAUTHORIZED OR IMPROPER USE OF THIS SYSTEM MAY RESULT IN DISCIPLINARY ACTION, AND CIVIL AND CRIMINAL PENALTIES.

BY USING THIS INFORMATION SYSTEM, YOU UNDERSTAND THE FOLLOWING:

YOU HAVE  NO REASONABLE EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY REGARDING ANY COMMUNICATIONS TRANSMITTED THROUGH OR DATA STORED ON THIS INFORMATION SYSTEM. AT ANY TIME, THE GOVERNMENT MAY MONITOR, INTERCEPT, SEARCH AND/OR SEIZE DATA TRANSITING OR STORED ON THIS INFORMATION SYSTEM.


ANY COMMUNICATIONS TRANSMITTED THROUGH OR DATA STORED ON THIS INFORMATION SYSTEM MAY BE DISCLOSED OR USED FOR ANY U.S. GOVERNMENT-AUTHORIZED PURPOSE.

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION SEE THE DEPARTMENT ORDER ON USE AND MONITORING OF DEPARTMENT COMPUTERS AND COMPUTER SYSTEMS. (NIST 800-53)
Link Posted: 3/7/2014 3:40:15 PM EDT
[#1]
NSA already has it.
Link Posted: 3/7/2014 4:47:33 PM EDT
[#2]
Yawn.  
Link Posted: 3/7/2014 5:13:25 PM EDT
[#3]
So go to the library to file.
Link Posted: 3/7/2014 5:57:02 PM EDT
[#4]
I hope they don't find my naked selfie file...
Link Posted: 3/7/2014 7:08:35 PM EDT
[#5]
ARE THEY STILL CONNECTED TO MY COMPUTER AFTER I LOG OUT?  OR CLOSE THE BROWSER?!


Link Posted: 3/7/2014 7:20:41 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/7/2014 8:26:45 PM EDT
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It was just a point that by entering the realm of E-File, you've granted complete access to your computer, with all the meat and potatoes it has in it. I'm not of the tin foil crowd. I think it's important for those that are new at this to know exactly what using this method entails.
Link Posted: 3/8/2014 4:19:49 AM EDT
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"THIS COMPUTER" is referring to their server running the code that is generating the message. Not the client side computer (aka your computer). I suppose they could have worded it more clearly but calm down.
Link Posted: 3/8/2014 4:34:14 AM EDT
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This. And the communications they're referring to is the information you are voluntarily submitting (i.e., the Form 1 and attachments).
Link Posted: 3/8/2014 4:53:07 AM EDT
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+1 lol
Link Posted: 3/8/2014 6:04:16 AM EDT
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Yep.  Reading comprehension FAIL.
Link Posted: 3/8/2014 3:42:38 PM EDT
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Now they know my porn tastes.

Good thing I'm not running for president.
Link Posted: 3/8/2014 6:24:26 PM EDT
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Yep.  Reading comprehension FAIL.
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Yep.  Reading comprehension FAIL.



Please re-read. "ALL COMPUTERS CONNECTED TO THIS NETWORK". That's reading comprehension 101.
Link Posted: 3/8/2014 7:00:11 PM EDT
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And thus by extension, every computer connected to the internet, since i'm assuming you aren't plugging a hardline into their internal network right? But yes, if you have a .gov laptop/desktop etc. using a vpn connection, you would be agreeing to that since you are connected to their network on their equipment, and already know that.

An eform is not that.
Link Posted: 3/8/2014 7:03:32 PM EDT
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Please re-read. "ALL COMPUTERS CONNECTED TO THIS NETWORK". That's reading comprehension 101.
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Yep.  Reading comprehension FAIL.



Please re-read. "ALL COMPUTERS CONNECTED TO THIS NETWORK". That's reading comprehension 101.

Meaning whatever POS cluster of servers they have running the eforms site. Is this really that difficult for you to understand, Alex Jones?
Link Posted: 3/9/2014 2:31:09 PM EDT
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Meaning whatever POS cluster of servers they have running the eforms site. Is this really that difficult for you to understand, Alex Jones?
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Yep.  Reading comprehension FAIL.



Please re-read. "ALL COMPUTERS CONNECTED TO THIS NETWORK". That's reading comprehension 101.

Meaning whatever POS cluster of servers they have running the eforms site. Is this really that difficult for you to understand, Alex Jones?


Agreed.  If you are familiar with computers, networking, and web based application, this is an obvious statement where "this network" means the internal network @ the ATF, and "this computer" means the server you are currently connected to.  Since the servers for database back-end are often different than the web server front-end that you are interacting with, they are covering all of their bases.  Now put away your tinfoil hat.
Link Posted: 3/9/2014 3:44:48 PM EDT
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Everyone debunking the claims in the OP WAS sent here by the government.
Link Posted: 3/9/2014 4:24:40 PM EDT
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 Yup, there is enough in the world to get worked up over without manufacturing a reason.  The OP needs to get a clue here.
Link Posted: 3/9/2014 4:52:19 PM EDT
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Every secured USG site has the same disclaimer.
Link Posted: 3/9/2014 5:18:49 PM EDT
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It's not just efiling, it's ANY computer ANYWHERE connected to ANY federal network.

Had the same language when I was becoming  an NRCS contractor to write conservation plans.

Was very vocal about it in the class and everyone else thought I was a nutjob.
Link Posted: 3/9/2014 5:22:13 PM EDT
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Wrong.  It specifically says "ALL COMPUTERS CONNECTED TO THIS NETWORK, "

While entering data, your computer is connected to the network, so at least for the time your computer is connected to the network they can do whatever they want with you computer, if you haven't implemented appropriate security features on your local machine.
Link Posted: 3/9/2014 5:24:47 PM EDT
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Meaning whatever POS cluster of servers they have running the eforms site. Is this really that difficult for you to understand, Alex Jones?
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"THIS COMPUTER" is referring to their server running the code that is generating the message. Not the client side computer (aka your computer). I suppose they could have worded it more clearly but calm down.


Yep.  Reading comprehension FAIL.



Please re-read. "ALL COMPUTERS CONNECTED TO THIS NETWORK". That's reading comprehension 101.

Meaning whatever POS cluster of servers they have running the eforms site. Is this really that difficult for you to understand, Alex Jones?


Yeah, but that isn't what the message says.  Try that one in court, that your computer connected to their network isn't really a computer connected to their network as they really meant a cluster of servers running the eforms site.  Chances of anything happening are less then getting struck by a meteor, but that's what it says.
Link Posted: 3/9/2014 6:27:50 PM EDT
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If the tinfoil brigade is really worried about eFiling, yall probably shouldn't be sending the govt all the information on your weapons, your fingerprints, address, and other personal information by paper filing.  They might even be getting your DNA off of the saliva on the envelope.    Of course, that is yall's option.
Link Posted: 3/9/2014 7:21:35 PM EDT
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Yeah, but that isn't what the message says.  Try that one in court, that your computer connected to their network isn't really a computer connected to their network as they really meant a cluster of servers running the eforms site.  Chances of anything happening are less then getting struck by a meteor, but that's what it says.
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"THIS COMPUTER" is referring to their server running the code that is generating the message. Not the client side computer (aka your computer). I suppose they could have worded it more clearly but calm down.


Yep.  Reading comprehension FAIL.



Please re-read. "ALL COMPUTERS CONNECTED TO THIS NETWORK". That's reading comprehension 101.

Meaning whatever POS cluster of servers they have running the eforms site. Is this really that difficult for you to understand, Alex Jones?


Yeah, but that isn't what the message says.  Try that one in court, that your computer connected to their network isn't really a computer connected to their network as they really meant a cluster of servers running the eforms site.  Chances of anything happening are less then getting struck by a meteor, but that's what it says.

Really? It's that difficult for you? Then go lick some stamps and mail your forms.
Link Posted: 3/9/2014 8:17:04 PM EDT
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It was just a point that by entering the realm of E-File, you've granted complete access to your computer, with all the meat and potatoes it has in it. I'm not of the tin foil crowd. I think it's important for those that are new at this to know exactly what using this method entails.
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I haven't eFiled anything yet, but couldn't you just upload what you need to from a public computer instead of your personal computer?
Link Posted: 3/10/2014 7:57:45 AM EDT
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Standard warning banner.  It is a basic information security best practice.  It does not give the government the legal ability to spy on your computer.   It just states that they will monitor their information systems and the data sent to them,  including data about your computer (IE your User-Agent string sent by your browser when you request a page, IP address, etc..).

FWIW, they actually "monitor" your computer less than your bank does when you sign into online banking.

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