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Link Posted: 1/30/2020 11:15:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/30/2020 11:16:01 PM EST by Kwisak]
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Originally Posted By rsolomon:

of what year? And what's the source of that date?
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Their website, and this year
Link Posted: 2/1/2020 7:56:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/1/2020 8:34:42 PM EST by DeathMetalMedic]
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Originally Posted By Aussie_E:
At least CBM is honest and calls it what it is, the next generation. Not incremental improvements.
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Except he gets custom parts for his and posts like it's a generic one of the assembly line.

Oh and I got a 5.56 one. Its reliable, or at least its eaten everything I fed it. The trigger is actually good for a bullpup.

But despite several match grade offerings, it doesnt hold MOA. And frequently was over 2 MOA.
Link Posted: 2/2/2020 12:38:29 AM EST
You got the new MDRX in 5.56?
FE or SE?

Did you try SIG 77gr OTM ammo?
Link Posted: 2/3/2020 8:57:42 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/3/2020 8:58:08 AM EST by MAC21500]
The MDRX barrel profile appears to be different:

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MDR 5.56 Conversion kit:

Link Posted: 2/3/2020 9:32:35 AM EST
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Originally Posted By MAC21500:
The MDRX barrel profile appears to be different:

https://i.imgur.com/r1Ex74H.png" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/r1Ex74H.png

MDR 5.56 Conversion kit:

https://images.eurooptic.com/images/products/desert-tech/desert-tech-mdr-ck-556-10-O1.jpg
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The one from the video screenshot looks longer. Didn't they put out a 18-20" barrel now?
Link Posted: 2/3/2020 9:53:39 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/3/2020 9:57:09 AM EST by Kwisak]
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Originally Posted By newguy2k3:

The one from the video screenshot looks longer. Didn't they put out a 18-20" barrel now?
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Looks like it to me, longer barrel that is. Also the price on kits has changed too, 300 less for the 308 700/1000 and 150 less for 556 600/750. Not sure why or how they are doing it all cheaper now but that should help it be more viable as long as quality didn’t rank but with statements of increased quality I would assume not.
Link Posted: 2/3/2020 6:34:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MAC21500:
The MDRX barrel profile appears to be different:

https://i.imgur.com/r1Ex74H.png" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/r1Ex74H.png

MDR 5.56 Conversion kit:

https://images.eurooptic.com/images/products/desert-tech/desert-tech-mdr-ck-556-10-O1.jpg
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IIRC, different barrel lengths and calibers; the top is 6.5CM/20" and the lower is .223/16".
Link Posted: 2/4/2020 7:38:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By marod:
You got the new MDRX in 5.56?
FE or SE?

Did you try SIG 77gr OTM ammo?
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No, the "normal" one.

I tried about 6 brands of ammo, all of which can achieve MOA out of an AR

The MDRX doesnt have a different barrel. Its stimm 4140 turned by Faxon. Theres a reason DT doesnt offer an accuracy guarantee for the MDR when they do for the rest of their rifles.
Link Posted: 2/5/2020 5:47:24 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DeathMetalMedic:

No, the "normal" one.

I tried about 6 brands of ammo, all of which can achieve MOA out of an AR

The MDRX doesnt have a different barrel. Its stimm 4140 turned by Faxon. Theres a reason DT doesnt offer an accuracy guarantee for the MDR when they do for the rest of their rifles.
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Well there is one thing we DO know.

The MDR is far more accurate than the Tavor 7, or X95.
Link Posted: 2/5/2020 7:23:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/5/2020 7:25:33 PM EST by thehun06]
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Originally Posted By Sniper3142:

Well there is one thing we DO know.

The MDR is far more accurate than the Tavor 7, or X95.
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How so? The MDRs I've shot weren't that great with M80 ball...they were all 2-2.5" with it while the T7 returned 1.5MOA for me....

With match ammo...yes more accurate...but are you really going to shot FGMM all the time...nope...so...accuracy depends on what you want...

Hunting rifle-MDR
Tactical rifle-Tavors

I have yet to see anyone shot 150gr ELD out of a T7 to match the 1:12 twist so we could be up for a surprise there...

Which pretty much mirrors what everyone is saying...I personally never shoot match ammo as long as a rifle returns 1.5-2MOA with M80 ball...
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 10:24:13 AM EST
i placed my order on 01/24/20
est.ship date : 02/04/20

But still nothing so i called them today and they have no idea at all....
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 10:33:29 AM EST
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Originally Posted By marod:
i placed my order on 01/24/20
est.ship date : 02/04/20

But still nothing so i called them today and they have no idea at all....
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I did a mdrx as well but mine is 20th est ship. That said when I look and they fiat hit it went from 4th to 12th I
Within the sane day. I think they got a lot of orders in or delay. Hey maybe the people in the bullpup forum that still haven’t got their rifles will get a mdrx instead
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 12:05:46 PM EST
Link Posted: 2/12/2020 9:43:32 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/12/2020 9:43:47 AM EST by Kwisak]
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Originally Posted By marod:
i placed my order on 01/24/20
est.ship date : 02/04/20

But still nothing so i called them today and they have no idea at all....
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You get an update? Also make sure you call in, the front system you see through your account has little to do with the backend system they use for everything else. I canceled a 556 conversion since the mdrx version came out and the conversions dropped a good amount and it still says processing in the account and since I called in the mdrx isn’t in my account tab yet but the order is in and they have been able to give me updates. Still on course for shipment the week of the 20th
Link Posted: 2/12/2020 12:18:59 PM EST
i tried to contact them on facebook few days ago
No answer
i ll call them the next week
But i'm not optimistic
They seem to don't care
Link Posted: 2/12/2020 2:59:59 PM EST
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Originally Posted By marod:
i tried to contact them on facebook few days ago
No answer
i ll call them the next week
But i'm not optimistic
They seem to don't care
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I would only talk through calling. Facebook goes to social media team, calling goes to CS and they gave me an answer
Link Posted: 2/12/2020 5:34:57 PM EST
I called them this Monday and the lady told me "we don't know...."
I ll try the next week
Link Posted: 2/12/2020 8:57:24 PM EST
Deja vu all over again
Link Posted: 2/13/2020 7:17:54 AM EST
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Originally Posted By barnbwt:
Deja vu all over again
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Fool me 27 times...
Link Posted: 2/13/2020 7:23:44 AM EST
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Originally Posted By RDTCU:
Fool me 27 times...
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Originally Posted By RDTCU:
Originally Posted By barnbwt:
Deja vu all over again
Fool me 27 times...
I’m trying not to be TOO negative but how anyone could post in THIS thread that they’re surprised by Delphi Tech shipping promises is just absolutely mind boggling!!!!

In 2020 anyone purchasing Delphi Tech products is the frog in the parable of the frog and the scorpion - there’s really absolutely no excuse for being surprised at the outcome.
Link Posted: 2/14/2020 11:34:56 PM EST
I don't know anything about Delphi Tech...

But I just saw this very good video on the Desert Tech MDR SE:

Link Posted: 2/15/2020 12:33:54 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Sniper3142:
I don't know anything about Delphi Tech...

But I just saw this very good video on the Desert Tech MDR SE:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpjVIAPmf2s
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Wasn't it shown that IV8888 will sell a good review to anyone who's willing to pay?
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 12:54:55 AM EST
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Originally Posted By WriterClarke:

Wasn't it shown that IV8888 will sell a good review to anyone who's willing to pay?
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Rings a bell. Various prices depending on how thourough of a "good" review someone wanted iirc.
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 8:41:44 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/15/2020 8:42:33 AM EST by rsolomon]
Originally Posted By Sniper3142:
I don't know anything about Delphi Tech...

But I just saw this very good video on the Desert Tech MDR SE:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpjVIAPmf2s
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You should take the time to read through this whole thread, particularly the discussions about Indian MIM parts and the references will become clear.

Originally Posted By WriterClarke:
Wasn't it shown that IV8888 will sell a good review to anyone who's willing to pay?
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Yes his price list and conditions were leaked a few years back. To be fair Delphi Tech has always been able to make a few demo guns run moderately well - typically by over gassing the ever loving snot out of them.

It’s also possible they’ve suddenly resolved all the MDR engineering and quality issues, turned over a new leaf on schedule fidelity, and stopped taking and sitting on peoples money for wildly unreasonable amounts of time. Leopards changing their spots and all that, but make your own decisions.

Anyone even remotely considering spending money with or for a Delphi Tech product absolutely NEEDS to first invest the time to read this WHOLE thread from start to finish. If they are still willing to spend the money after that then I’m frankly astonished but at least they’ll be making an informed choice.
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 10:04:06 AM EST
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Originally Posted By WriterClarke:
Wasn't it shown that IV8888 will sell a good review to anyone who's willing to pay?
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Originally Posted By WriterClarke:
Originally Posted By Sniper3142:
I don't know anything about Delphi Tech...

But I just saw this very good video on the Desert Tech MDR SE:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpjVIAPmf2s
Wasn't it shown that IV8888 will sell a good review to anyone who's willing to pay?
Come on, guys, it's also been shown that the recent MDR configs have worked acceptably; I'd be shocked if the new X has re-introduced past issues solved after a ton of customer alpha-testing. Doesn't forgive the crazy delays, lies, and shit that was pushed out the door. The X forgoes the ejection contraption, so that should help greatly.

IV8888 probably only got paid to downplay the heavy recoil
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 12:43:00 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/15/2020 12:43:54 PM EST by doty_soty]
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Originally Posted By WriterClarke:
Wasn't it shown that IV8888 will sell a good review to anyone who's willing to pay?
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Originally Posted By WriterClarke:
Originally Posted By Sniper3142:
I don't know anything about Delphi Tech...

But I just saw this very good video on the Desert Tech MDR SE:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpjVIAPmf2s
Wasn't it shown that IV8888 will sell a good review to anyone who's willing to pay?
Yes, his price list was leaked awhile back. It was never more apparent than in his MDR “review”. He was fumbling for positive things to say about it even as he was actively clearing malfunctions. It was comical.
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 1:07:41 PM EST
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Originally Posted By barnbwt:

Come on, guys, it's also been shown that the recent MDR configs have worked acceptably; I'd be shocked if the new X has re-introduced past issues solved after a ton of customer alpha-testing. Doesn't forgive the crazy delays, lies, and shit that was pushed out the door. The X forgoes the ejection contraption, so that should help greatly.

IV8888 probably only got paid to downplay the heavy recoil
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Only the specific side eject version in 556 only for now has a normal ejection system. I wonder if they did anything with the rear pin issues.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 4:00:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By newguy2k3:

Only the specific side eject version in 556 only for now has a normal ejection system. I wonder if they did anything with the rear pin issues.
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The cracking? That likely depends on whether it was mentioned in a humiliating review by a high profile YouTuber.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 5:43:28 PM EST
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Originally Posted By newguy2k3:

Only the specific side eject version in 556 only for now has a normal ejection system. I wonder if they did anything with the rear pin issues.
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Is that why the changed the polymer to a stronger one?
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 5:44:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/16/2020 6:07:00 PM EST by Aussie_E]
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Originally Posted By Sniper3142:

Is that why the changed the polymer to a stronger one?
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The cracking was the metal rail not the polymer.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 5:46:29 PM EST
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Originally Posted By barnbwt:

The cracking? That likely depends on whether it was mentioned in a humiliating review by a high profile YouTuber.
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If that aint the damn truth.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 8:36:07 PM EST
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Originally Posted By newguy2k3:

He works for DT.
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So did iv8888, but he also works for them lol
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 8:37:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/16/2020 8:39:01 PM EST by Kwisak]
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Originally Posted By Sniper3142:

Is that why the changed the polymer to a stronger one?
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Who knows but the drop test broke the pistol grip off. Someone posted this video is gone now, it sure if that’s true as I haven’t gone looking The rear pin and just general abuse is all probably why. When I attached a afg to the rail I thought it was a little soft.
Link Posted: 2/19/2020 12:30:23 AM EST
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Originally Posted By marod:
I called them this Monday and the lady told me "we don't know...."
I ll try the next week
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I called with my original eta of the 24th. She looked and said there is a chance earlier but definitely by ETA, we will find out, but I would call again if I were you.
Link Posted: 2/19/2020 11:04:56 AM EST
People are still buying these and hoping they work?! What the actual F? That’s absolutely crazy.
Link Posted: 2/20/2020 1:08:06 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/20/2020 1:08:27 AM EST by Kwisak]
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Originally Posted By JoshNC:
People are still buying these and hoping they work?! What the actual F? That’s absolutely crazy.
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My mdr after getting the gas plug update has had zero issues, but I do want the updates of the mdrx so I put another order in, have a Tavor,x95,and aug. I just like bullpups
Link Posted: 2/20/2020 7:19:07 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Kwisak:

My mdr after getting the gas plug update has had zero issues, but I do want the updates of the mdrx so I put another order in, have a Tavor,x95,and aug. I just like bullpups
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Is it overgassed and beating itself up?
Link Posted: 2/20/2020 7:39:07 AM EST
.308 it still does...even more than before...remember...the latest plug has large gas ports than before...

5.56 MDR is where its at in my opinion....
Link Posted: 2/20/2020 4:08:17 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RDTCU:

Is it overgassed and beating itself up?
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No signs of abuse, harder than a scar or my bench ar10, but I don’t have another to compare it to. Overall it’s not bad. Mdrx will be 556 though
Link Posted: 2/21/2020 8:34:34 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Kwisak:

No signs of abuse, harder than a scar or my bench ar10, but I don’t have another to compare it to. Overall it’s not bad. Mdrx will be 556 though
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MDR in .308 is definitely harder impulse than a SCAR...it is hardest recoiling .308 semi auto I ever fired in my life...wouldn't have a MDR in .308 whatsoever...in 5.56 and side eject...thats a possibility but it really doesnt offer anything over my SAR at this point...SAR is combat proven with a high quality chf barrel where as the MDR still has a cheapskate 4140 FAXON built barrel...
Link Posted: 2/21/2020 10:04:57 AM EST
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Originally Posted By thehun06:

MDR in .308 is definitely harder impulse than a SCAR...it is hardest recoiling .308 semi auto I ever fired in my life...wouldn't have a MDR in .308 whatsoever...in 5.56 and side eject...thats a possibility but it really doesnt offer anything over my SAR at this point...SAR is combat proven with a high quality chf barrel where as the MDR still has a cheapskate 4140 FAXON built barrel...
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Mdr going to 308 or 6.5 is good for hunting but the only reason I got 308 was it came out first so it was wait another 6mo or go to a 308 and get a barrel swap later. Only 308 I have anymore is the scar, ar10, mdr, c308. I would say best to worst is scar, c308, ar10, mdr in that order when it comes to recoil. Still a big bullpup fan. By the time I ordered the swap the mdrx came out to I canceled and switched. I like the forward eject, at the point of side eject it still has some good qualities but I much prefer the forward especially in two gun where you have to switch shoulder as in its in the rules to switch and shoot with weak hand and all so side eject isn’t somthing I want to run there. When it comes down to it for most people any bull pup will do, they all generally have the same issues and if you train with one then your solid. I have a Tavor and x95(I prefer the SAR) and I like them and feel with their record they are a safer bet but I also really like everything g DT brings to the table and I’m willing to put the effort in to see how it turns out, does that mean I’m taking it hiking or camping, no. That’s the mossbergs job, but am I willing to put the time in to see if it’s reliable and functional overtime, especially in two gun. Side note is my HD gun is the SAR, great gun with awesome ergos and my vote is better than the x95.
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