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Posted: 11/29/2010 7:45:46 AM EDT
| Team comms? What is everyone using for team communication? I am looking to get something that can run under Peltors and is rather reliable. Not sure where else to post this, but lets see your setups if you got them. I do have an old MICH system minus the EMBITTER but have no idea what to run it with. |
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We ran the MBITR's with the Peltors, or later the PRC 152's. I would jump between inter-team channels, company and FOB channels. I always had my MBITR on me. I have heard that you can no longer use the emergency beacon since the US army stopped paying a French company for it, but I have never found anything stating that fact for sure. I love my MBITR and only hope the next gen radio is as good.
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| I am retired now and looking for something that a small group could use to talk to each other that would operate on the lines of the old "cool guy" team radios that would fit under the Peltors with the elastic head band and flexible boom mic (I cant remember what they were called). I really do not need the MBITR capabilities, but something more simple. If I could get one that would work with my MICH it would be great but not needed. |
| My buddies and I have purchased Motorola CP-200 radios. They are offered in 4-channel and 16-channel UHF or VHF. They can be programmed for whatever channels you want in their freq range. We have programmed the MURS channels, plus a few others. I have the Swattac II talk-through headset and the PTT connects to the radio. |
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My buddies and I have purchased Motorola CP-200 radios. They are offered in 4-channel and 16-channel UHF or VHF. They can be programmed for whatever channels you want in their freq range. We have programmed the MURS channels, plus a few others. I have the Swattac II talk-through headset and the PTT connects to the radio. Thanks. Got any pictures of your setup? |
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Quoted: Quoted: My buddies and I have purchased Motorola CP-200 radios. They are offered in 4-channel and 16-channel UHF or VHF. They can be programmed for whatever channels you want in their freq range. We have programmed the MURS channels, plus a few others. I have the Swattac II talk-through headset and the PTT connects to the radio. Thanks. Got any pictures of your setup? Here you go:  |
| Any suggestion for a mic boom that can attach to an ACH? I'm looking for any decent boom that has a down-wire to a two-way radio. I'm going budget, so I'm using some gear I already have that will work FRS/GMRS with thoughts of expanding to a Yaesu transceiver that I have. |
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We ran the MBITR's with the Peltors, or later the PRC 152's. I would jump between inter-team channels, company and FOB channels. I always had my MBITR on me. I have heard that you can no longer use the emergency beacon since the US army stopped paying a French company for it, but I have never found anything stating that fact for sure. I love my MBITR and only hope the next gen radio is as good. SOS Should be no issue with the MBITR's beacon mode –– it's just a standard 121.5 and 149.975 swept tone AM beacon designed be DFd by common SAR equipment. There's absolutely nothing special about it at all. they are great radios. |
| I am seriously thinking about going the GMRS rout, but the only headsets I find that I am looking for are airsoft gear. I guess if it held up it would be ok, but it still worries me. I even found a complete PRR style airsoft setup that looked to be pretty sturdy. I hate to go that rout, but then again I am not sure the rest of my friends can afford to get into a $600+ setup for comms. I will have to look around and see what I can find used or surplus. |
| You don't need to go airsoft, TCI will custom make anything you want. I bought a LASH style troth mic for a talkabout from a company called ClearCom I think, it is built great, not airsoft junk. I think it ran around $80. My problem with GMRS radios is battery life, be prepared to change/charge them often. Look into Motorola DTR series, they use MURS, and are very affordable. Please don't go airsoft you will regret it when it breaks when you really need it. |
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Quoted: Any suggestion for a mic boom that can attach to an ACH? I'm looking for any decent boom that has a down-wire to a two-way radio. I'm going budget, so I'm using some gear I already have that will work FRS/GMRS with thoughts of expanding to a Yaesu transceiver that I have. How about a throat mic? Peltor makes the MT-90 Quoted: Where did you get the Swattac's at? New off Ebay. Quoted: I am seriously thinking about going the GMRS rout, but the only headsets I find that I am looking for are airsoft gear. I guess if it held up it would be ok, but it still worries me. I even found a complete PRR style airsoft setup that looked to be pretty sturdy. I hate to go that rout, but then again I am not sure the rest of my friends can afford to get into a $600+ setup for comms. I will have to look around and see what I can find used or surplus. I believe that the GMRS frequencies are in the 462-467MHz range. That is in the middle of the range of the Motorola CP-200 (and similar) UHF radio capabilities. Don't skimp on your setup because your buddies can't afford as good of gear as you can. My setup is: Motorola VHF CP-200 - Used on Ebay - $150 Peltor Swattac II KIT - New on Ebay - $180 - this had the wrong PTT, so I sold it and bought the one that fit my radio and that cost me about another $30. If you get the right kit from the start, save a few pennies. There you go, now that I think of it, my whole setup was <$350. I suppose I was double-counting the PTT because I had to buy a different one and didn't consider that I sold the first one. |
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Any suggestion for a mic boom that can attach to an ACH? I'm looking for any decent boom that has a down-wire to a two-way radio. I'm going budget, so I'm using some gear I already have that will work FRS/GMRS with thoughts of expanding to a Yaesu transceiver that I have. How about a throat mic? Peltor makes the MT-90 Quoted:
Where did you get the Swattac's at? New off Ebay. Quoted:
I am seriously thinking about going the GMRS rout, but the only headsets I find that I am looking for are airsoft gear. I guess if it held up it would be ok, but it still worries me. I even found a complete PRR style airsoft setup that looked to be pretty sturdy. I hate to go that rout, but then again I am not sure the rest of my friends can afford to get into a $600+ setup for comms. I will have to look around and see what I can find used or surplus. I believe that the GMRS frequencies are in the 462-467MHz range. That is in the middle of the range of the Motorola CP-200 (and similar) UHF radio capabilities. Don't skimp on your setup because your buddies can't afford as good of gear as you can. My setup is: Motorola VHF CP-200 - Used on Ebay - $150 Peltor Swattac II KIT - New on Ebay - $180 - this had the wrong PTT, so I sold it and bought the one that fit my radio and that cost me about another $30. If you get the right kit from the start, save a few pennies. There you go, now that I think of it, my whole setup was <$350. I suppose I was double-counting the PTT because I had to buy a different one and didn't consider that I sold the first one. Thanks, you make a very good point. Other than GMRS and MURS, what other frequencies do you think would be practical to program? Any type of emergency or air? Would I need to get my HAM license for that though? I know not for MURS, and techniucally for GMRS you are supposed to, but no one does. |
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MURS requires no license.
GMRS requires a license. An amateur radio license (HAM) does NOT qualify for GMRS, since GMRS frequencies are not in the Amateur allocation. GMRS are in the 462mhz range. MURS in the 150mhz. You'd need two different radios or a dual-band radio to have one that can cover both. |
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MURS requires no license. GMRS requires a license. An amateur radio license (HAM) does NOT qualify for GMRS, since GMRS frequencies are not in the Amateur allocation. GMRS are in the 462mhz range. MURS in the 150mhz. You'd need two different radios or a dual-band radio to have one that can cover both. OK, so which is better and for what reason? Which channels should I have programmed? Also, how did the other poster get his CP200 programmed to MURS and they are still in range of GMRS? Could you clarify this all a little more please? Thank you. |
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Quoted: Quoted: MURS requires no license. GMRS requires a license. An amateur radio license (HAM) does NOT qualify for GMRS, since GMRS frequencies are not in the Amateur allocation. GMRS are in the 462mhz range. MURS in the 150mhz. You'd need two different radios or a dual-band radio to have one that can cover both. OK, so which is better and for what reason? Which channels should I have programmed? Also, how did the other poster get his CP200 programmed to MURS and they are still in range of GMRS? Could you clarify this all a little more please? Thank you. This is why I went with a VHF radio instead of anything else. MURS are free, and there are 5 of them. The VHF radios can also be programmed for the marine VHF freqs, since they are in their range. It's illegal to use those channels if not in a marine environment, but I figure if I need this stuff, TS has HTF, and the FCC isn't coming after me. Use at your own discretion. I also have a boat with a 25w VHF, so if I did use that for some reason, the radios have a dual capability - to be able to communicate IN that marine environment with my permanent VHF on board. http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/?pageName=mtVhf You can buy the software and the cable off eBay to program the Motorola radios. |
| Actually I too am interested in this discussion. I recently acquired a CP200 as well as a UHF Model. Its a 4 channel one, and I was wondering what channels would be good to program it with? I am thinking since it overlaps the FRS channels I should just do the first 4. Any reccomendations as to setting it up with UHF? |
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Any suggestion for a mic boom that can attach to an ACH? I'm looking for any decent boom that has a down-wire to a two-way radio. I'm going budget, so I'm using some gear I already have that will work FRS/GMRS with thoughts of expanding to a Yaesu transceiver that I have. How about a throat mic? Peltor makes the MT-90 Quoted:
Where did you get the Swattac's at? New off Ebay. Quoted:
I am seriously thinking about going the GMRS rout, but the only headsets I find that I am looking for are airsoft gear. I guess if it held up it would be ok, but it still worries me. I even found a complete PRR style airsoft setup that looked to be pretty sturdy. I hate to go that rout, but then again I am not sure the rest of my friends can afford to get into a $600+ setup for comms. I will have to look around and see what I can find used or surplus. I believe that the GMRS frequencies are in the 462-467MHz range. That is in the middle of the range of the Motorola CP-200 (and similar) UHF radio capabilities. Don't skimp on your setup because your buddies can't afford as good of gear as you can. My setup is: Motorola VHF CP-200 - Used on Ebay - $150 Peltor Swattac II KIT - New on Ebay - $180 - this had the wrong PTT, so I sold it and bought the one that fit my radio and that cost me about another $30. If you get the right kit from the start, save a few pennies. There you go, now that I think of it, my whole setup was <$350. I suppose I was double-counting the PTT because I had to buy a different one and didn't consider that I sold the first one. Is 180$ for the swat tac normal? I'm only finding them for 600+ And is there a setup where the headphones aren't 2 solid 'muffs'? Would be interested in something in just 1 ear. |
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Quoted: Is 180$ for the swat tac normal? I'm only finding them for 600+ And is there a setup where the headphones aren't 2 solid 'muffs'? Would be interested in something in just 1 ear. $180 was a GREAT deal. Normally they are in the 250-300 range. Do a search on eBay. Swattac, Comtac are the same other than the color from my research. All the Peltors are both ears because they are noise reduction (-20bd), talk through (have microphones to pick up ambient sounds) and have the PTT connection. This gives you protection when you fire, but still gives ambient sound hearing and radio comms. |
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Can a longer/larger antenna be added to the smaller motorola radios to increase range? Yes, antennas that come stock ( rubber ducks) are often refered to as rubber dummy loads. They are in the negative gain compared to a dipole. A dipole is the standard we measure antennas by. My ham HT has a 2.5 db gain antenna added and this is probably a 5 or 6 db gain from the rubber duck. Diamond sells antennas that replace the rubber duck. Even if the gain is unity meaning no gain over a dipole that is better than a rubber duck. |
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