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Posted: 5/30/2008 1:30:27 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/30/2008 1:30:27 PM EST by Zhukov]
Hey guys, I'm going to start reloading (don't know squat yethinking.gif) and collected some brass that was fired out of a buddy's AR10 which left a little dent in the sides. Are these ok to reload? or toss em? Thanks for any info.

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u84/bragil/P1010823.jpg

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u84/bragil/P1010822.jpg
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 6:24:53 AM EST
A small dent is ok, but those looked gouged, I'd scrap them. About 50,000 PSI going off inches from your eyes and face, it ain't worth the chance. Like Wolfman223 said, maybe fix the gun, something is causing a violent ejection.
Link Posted: 5/29/2008 9:19:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/29/2008 9:45:57 PM EST by Manlaan]
Way too creased/dented for me. The dents look like it actually cut into/displaced the brass on some of them. Toss em.

btw, there is a reloading section on the forums as well.
Link Posted: 5/29/2008 9:55:38 PM EST
I got a Russian Vepr Super in .308 that kicks the shit out of the case like that plus tosses it about 30 plus feet on being ejected.I use SA berdan surplus in it or other once fire and toss rounds like Silver Bear.They might iron out but would take a max primer flattening load to do it.He might try to come up with a way to reduce that case mark,maybe bigger hole in the gas port ect.
Link Posted: 5/29/2008 7:57:44 PM EST
Recycle bucket.
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 1:34:43 PM EST
Mid-case dents, even those, are not an issue. The first 1/4 of the case is most critical.
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 3:41:45 PM EST
I'd shoot them.
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 4:15:27 PM EST
Dent is from the brass deflector.

The funny bump that has a brass smear on it in front of the forward assist.

Glue some black Velcro on it to cushion the brass and prevent dents.
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 4:29:10 PM EST

Originally Posted By dryflash3:
Dent is from the brass deflector.

The funny bump that has a brass smear on it in front of the forward assist.

Glue some black Velcro on it to cushion the brass and prevent dents.


+1

Velcro (r) Sticky Back (TM) in your friendly WalMart Sewing/Notions section.
20 coin set, 5/8 in. dia., black. I used the loop side. Some may prefer the hook side.
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 4:55:32 PM EST

Originally Posted By Keith_J:
Mid-case dents, even those, are not an issue. The first 1/4 of the case is most critical.



After having a case head failure last week,

I figure if you gotta ask if the case is good to reload,

the prudent answer is to dump them.

Just one man's opinion.

PS. My face has finally healed up...nasty gas burns on my brow...

I was kinda gun shy...kept on having flashbacks of the explosion
but went to the range today and got right back on the horse.

good luck

docgary

Link Posted: 5/30/2008 6:00:55 PM EST
My AK brass looks like that, I reload 'em, no problems so far.

But the bottom case in the first pic, looks like a perforation in the case neck, that black line,
If you can see daylight thru it toss it. If it's just carbon, then it should be ok
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 6:18:04 PM EST

Originally Posted By docgary:

Originally Posted By Keith_J:
Mid-case dents, even those, are not an issue. The first 1/4 of the case is most critical.



After having a case head failure last week,

I figure if you gotta ask if the case is good to reload,

the prudent answer is to dump them.

Just one man's opinion.

PS. My face has finally healed up...nasty gas burns on my brow...

I was kinda gun shy...kept on having flashbacks of the explosion
but went to the range today and got right back on the horse.

good luck

docgary



Glad to hear you are doing better.

How was the horse ride?
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 6:49:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/30/2008 6:55:38 PM EST by MonkTx]

Originally Posted By dryflash3:
Dent is from the brass deflector.

The funny bump that has a brass smear on it in front of the forward assist.

Glue some black Velcro on it to cushion the brass and prevent dents.


Did you even bother to look at the brass in the pics?

I want to know what part of the brass deflector has a sharp edge on it that would gouge the brass(in two places on most of those cases) like that.

Looks more like something in chambering and extraction to me.
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 8:20:07 PM EST
Thanks for the info guys.
Looks like some would shoot it and some wouldn'thinking.gif

I guess since I'm just starting to get into reloading, the smart thing to do would be to start with good (not questionable) components and focus on technique.

Thanks for the input fellas.
Link Posted: 5/30/2008 8:52:08 PM EST
Dents do not make a case "questionable". All automatic firearms dent cases. Cases dent from all kinds of impact. There is nothing wrong with them.

I'd beware of a pristine looking case that has been improperly reloaded ten times and is about to let go at the casehead.

Link Posted: 5/30/2008 9:11:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By MonkTx:

Originally Posted By dryflash3:
Dent is from the brass deflector.

The funny bump that has a brass smear on it in front of the forward assist.

Glue some black Velcro on it to cushion the brass and prevent dents.


Did you even bother to look at the brass in the pics?

I want to know what part of the brass deflector has a sharp edge on it that would gouge the brass(in two places on most of those cases) like that.

Looks more like something in chambering and extraction to me.



I suspect they are hitting the edge of the ejection port in front of the case deflector.
Link Posted: 5/31/2008 3:49:39 AM EST

Originally Posted By pit808:


I find it interesting that 3 of the 4 (the bottom 3) show a distinctive 2nd ding in them in very close proximity to the 1st. Was your buddy's rifle having any sort of ejection issues when he was firing it?
Link Posted: 5/31/2008 4:06:11 AM EST
Link Posted: 5/31/2008 6:45:20 AM EST
I've reloaded cases like that before, didn't have any problems at all.
My pistol grip converted Saiga in .223 leaves a ding just like that when fired.

Caveat; I am a bit more ballsy and prone to risk than most folk so take my advice accordingly
Link Posted: 5/31/2008 10:01:20 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Njanear:
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I find it interesting that 3 of the 4 (the bottom 3) show a distinctive 2nd ding in them in very close proximity to the 1st. Was your buddy's rifle having any sort of ejection issues when he was firing it?


As a matter of fact, he was having all kinds of issues with it.
Link Posted: 5/31/2008 10:09:41 AM EST
There are some pretty decent extractor marks on the case rim
Link Posted: 5/31/2008 10:40:11 AM EST
Link Posted: 5/31/2008 6:51:15 PM EST
As has already been stated, if it is more than 1/4 the way up the case body, it is good to go.

I don't know about the rifle, but the brass is OK.

Put it through a resizing die and see what it looks like.

My Tokarev makes those marks on 7.62x54R brass, and I've reloaded that brass a few times without case failures due to those marks.
Link Posted: 6/2/2008 8:50:11 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/2/2008 8:53:31 AM EST by docgary]

Originally Posted By AeroE:

Originally Posted By docgary:
After having a case head failure last week,..

PS. My face has finally healed up...nasty gas burns on my brow...

I was kinda gun shy...kept on having flashbacks of the explosion
but went to the range today and got right back on the horse.

good luck

docgary



Were you wearing shooting glasses? Mine saved my eyes two years ago when I was hit by a full size unbroken clay target falling out of a chandelle. I've been hit by bullet jackets in the 600 yard pit more than one time, and I've shot a few revolvers that spit lead.


Yep, I ALWAYS wear shooting glasses...( I'm blind without them!)

Probably would have given me a nice superficial eye burn
requiring eye patches on both without the glasses.
What a wonderful way to bring in shooting season!


Originally posted by dryflash3

How was the horse ride?


Horse ride was fine, LOL...

The first few shots I grimaced and closed my eyes...

After that, working for that 5 shot group under .4xx!

Thanks for your concerns
docgary

Link Posted: 6/3/2008 2:25:50 PM EST
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