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Posted: 9/29/2013 1:21:35 PM EDT
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They are the exact same bullets other than the coating IIRC.
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Posted: 9/30/2013 7:34:51 PM EDT
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Yeah, gathered as much. What I was wondering was if I used the same data as the BT, would I get the same velocity/POI? The coating will probably give a little more velocity (which I am not worried about). The POI/come ups are what I'm interested in. Hate to have to do more shooting to get new come ups and go thru most of the box.
Semper Fi, Luis R. |
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Posted: 9/30/2013 11:46:52 PM EDT
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I have used both Nosler 200gr BT and the Combined Technology 200gr (black coated silver tip) in my .338 Win mag. I did notice a difference in felt recoil (the rifle has a BOSS break) and I'm sure the black bullets were slower than the non coated though I never proved it with the chroney.
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Posted: 10/1/2013 9:34:36 AM EDT
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According to CT Nosler / Winchester: " Lubalox Exterior Coating: Reduces fouling, pressure and friction between bullet and bore, providing longer barrel life, easier cleaning and enhanced accuracy."
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Posted: 10/3/2013 8:37:24 PM EDT
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I have used both Nosler 200gr BT and the Combined Technology 200gr (black coated silver tip) in my .338 Win mag. I did notice a difference in felt recoil (the rifle has a BOSS break) and I'm sure the black bullets were slower than the non coated though I never proved it with the chroney. Did you load the two different bullets using the same powder/case/primer recipe? And the most important question as far as I'm concerned: Did the POI change? Thanks for the info. Semper Fi, Luis R. |
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Posted: 10/4/2013 5:57:09 AM EDT
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Nosler's reloading data does not differentiate between bullet types just the bullet weight, so the answer to your question is yes you can.
http://www.nosler.com/30-06-springfield |
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Posted: 10/13/2013 9:51:10 PM EDT
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So, I went thru and loaded a few of the Ballistic Silvertips and ran them against the loaded BTs that I have. I forgot that I used the last of the powder can, so I had to change lots.
I tested them on a short range, 70yds. The POI was the same (think it might have been 0.25" lower - for all intent the same). The velocity was about 50fps less than the BT load. Have a couple of BTs that didn't get loaded so will loaded them with current lot and see if the velocity difference is due to the powder or the bullets. Semper Fi, Luis R. |
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Posted: 10/13/2013 10:15:56 PM EDT
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Thanks for the update
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Posted: 10/13/2013 11:11:08 PM EDT
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So, I went thru and loaded a few of the Ballistic Silvertips and ran them against the loaded BTs that I have. I forgot that I used the last of the powder can, so I had to change lots. I tested them on a short range, 70yds. The POI was the same (think it might have been 0.25" lower - for all intent the same). The velocity was about 50fps less than the BT load. Have a couple of BTs that didn't get loaded so will loaded them with current lot and see if the velocity difference is due to the powder or the bullets. Semper Fi, Luis R. It's most likely the different powder lots causing the velocity difference. Especially at 70 yds. I don't think the coating would cause that. You're shooting 30-06? What grain? Do both bullets have the same B.C.? |
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Posted: 10/14/2013 8:51:37 PM EDT
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It's most likely the different powder lots causing the velocity difference. Especially at 70 yds. I don't think the coating would cause that. You're shooting 30-06? What grain? Do both bullets have the same B.C.? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So, I went thru and loaded a few of the Ballistic Silvertips and ran them against the loaded BTs that I have. I forgot that I used the last of the powder can, so I had to change lots. I tested them on a short range, 70yds. The POI was the same (think it might have been 0.25" lower - for all intent the same). The velocity was about 50fps less than the BT load. Have a couple of BTs that didn't get loaded so will loaded them with current lot and see if the velocity difference is due to the powder or the bullets. Semper Fi, Luis R. It's most likely the different powder lots causing the velocity difference. Especially at 70 yds. I don't think the coating would cause that. You're shooting 30-06? What grain? Do both bullets have the same B.C.? 30/06 Sako L61R 24" 150gr bullets Both bullets are the same BC - well same bullet. the Ballistic Silvertip has the Lubalox coating on it and a gray/sliver polymer tip instead of green. I kinda figure it may be, but it won't be till next week when I find out for sure. I'll load up the last 2 BT bullets and a couple more of the Silvertips and see what the chrono says. Nosler shows the same data for the two bullets and a few others. I didn't really believe that these two would have the same velocities and POIs in real life, but I guess they may. Semper Fi, Luis R. |
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Posted: 10/14/2013 9:42:38 PM EDT
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30/06 Sako L61R 24" 150gr bullets Both bullets are the same BC - well same bullet. the Ballistic Silvertip has the Lubalox coating on it and a gray/sliver polymer tip instead of green. I kinda figure it may be, but it won't be till next week when I find out for sure. I'll load up the last 2 BT bullets and a couple more of the Silvertips and see what the chrono says. Nosler shows the same data for the two bullets and a few others. I didn't really believe that these two would have the same velocities and POIs in real life, but I guess they may. Semper Fi, Luis R. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So, I went thru and loaded a few of the Ballistic Silvertips and ran them against the loaded BTs that I have. I forgot that I used the last of the powder can, so I had to change lots. I tested them on a short range, 70yds. The POI was the same (think it might have been 0.25" lower - for all intent the same). The velocity was about 50fps less than the BT load. Have a couple of BTs that didn't get loaded so will loaded them with current lot and see if the velocity difference is due to the powder or the bullets. Semper Fi, Luis R. It's most likely the different powder lots causing the velocity difference. Especially at 70 yds. I don't think the coating would cause that. You're shooting 30-06? What grain? Do both bullets have the same B.C.? 30/06 Sako L61R 24" 150gr bullets Both bullets are the same BC - well same bullet. the Ballistic Silvertip has the Lubalox coating on it and a gray/sliver polymer tip instead of green. I kinda figure it may be, but it won't be till next week when I find out for sure. I'll load up the last 2 BT bullets and a couple more of the Silvertips and see what the chrono says. Nosler shows the same data for the two bullets and a few others. I didn't really believe that these two would have the same velocities and POIs in real life, but I guess they may. Semper Fi, Luis R. They just might if they have the same B.C. and are loaded the same way. Use the JBM Online Calculator to get an idea. |
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Posted: 10/28/2013 8:49:51 PM EDT
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Howdy,
So I forgot to update this thread for those that might find it interesting. I loaded the last two BT bullets that I had and loaded 3 of the BSTs. Using the same powder lot and powder charge. I had a 60fps velocity difference between the two bullets and at 100yds the bullets were to the same POI. The Ballistic Silvertip bullets were slower than the BTs. I guess the Lubalox cuts the copper fouling and reduces the speed. Anyway, with H4350, I increased the charge by 0.2 and that will make up the velocity difference. HTH Semper Fi, Luis R. |
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