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1/14/2016 11:03:20 PM EDT
I bought 50 rounds of LOADED Lapua 55gr match ammo, for 29.95.

Lapua Match

I can buy 100 Lapua empty cases for 80.00.

Lapua Cases

Doesn't it seem odd that I could buy 100 Lapua Match cases LOADED, for 60 bucks, fire form them while shooting the first time, or spend 80.00 to buy a box of empty cases.

Hell, You could buy 2 boxes of ammo, pull it down, save the powder and projectiles, and have 100 cases for 20.00 less.

I just don't get it.

Anyhow, Tomorrow I'm going to take the Lapua ammo to the range and see what it's like, then reload it with some 69-77gr SMK's.
1/14/2016 11:06:12 PM EDT
[#1]
In for your range report.



If tomorrow is like today, will be some good weather for shooting.
1/14/2016 11:06:39 PM EDT
[#2]
It happens rarely but occasionally that it is worth buying ammo for the brass.
1/14/2016 11:12:59 PM EDT
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In for your range report.

If tomorrow is like today, will be some good weather for shooting.
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I know, I got the new hand guard on the RPR. Things are finally settling down, come hell or highwater, I'm going to the range. I hope.

Got some of the .308 loads, and I wanna shoot some of the Lapua just for giggles.

I figured it would be different brass, but I compared it to the Lapua brass I bought, seems to be the same.


1/14/2016 11:33:18 PM EDT
[#4]
I've been doing this reloading thing since 1985 and one thing that was true then that is still true today is that the cost to make new ammo from components is often about the same or as you found more than buying new factory ammo.

The only thing gained is that you are shooting "your" load.

Most of the time though that cost is swung in our favor because we usually find a way to obtain free or very cheap brass.

Sometimes you simply don't have much choice like when I got my .300 REM SAUM. Buying new ammo was the only logical way to go. Yeah I ended up using it for probably 5 years to hunt with before finally going to hand loads but I couldn't see shooting $38 a box ammo just to produce brass.

Motor
1/15/2016 12:41:50 AM EDT
[#5]
Chevelle, are you on the wet side or east side?   I see trees in your Avatar lol.

Good luck at the range tomorrow.
1/15/2016 1:19:25 AM EDT
[#6]
Wetside.
1/15/2016 2:48:31 AM EDT
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I've been doing this reloading thing since 1985 and one thing that was true then that is still true today is that the cost to make new ammo from components is often about the same or as you found more than buying new factory ammo. . . .
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I have never found equivalent quality ammo to be cheaper than making my own.

But encouraged by the OPs post I ran to PV to price 100 rounds of Lapua 167gr 308 ammo vs making 100 rounds from the components.

Factory = $185.06
Handload = $127.53 (for my load, 43.5gr N-140, Lapua brass, 167gr Scenars, Win LRP. Includes new Lapua brass.)

So I think it depends heavily on what one considers an acceptable replacement for one's handloaded ammo, and perhaps what caliber(s) are handloaded.

ETA: but the Lapua 223 looks quite good lol.
1/15/2016 8:37:25 AM EDT
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There is a hole in your argument. Your pricing included amazon.com. I like shopping there, except for reloading stuff always way too expensive!
Example, Lapua Brass $60
1/15/2016 10:13:45 AM EDT
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You're right, and Midway has it for 63.00, which is where I bought My box of brass. You have to comparison shop Amazon for sure, but usually, they are fairly close.

But even at 60.00 a box, I can still buy 2 boxes and have 100 Lapua match cases, AFTER I shoot it.

I just thought I'd point it out.
1/15/2016 11:04:37 AM EDT
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I have never found this to be true.

Paying approximately $1/round is true for factory ammo.  Paying more than half that for reloads is too much and the reloads are as accurate or better than factory match ammo.

I think where you are off in this evaluation is the type of ammo you bought.  It is 55 gr FMJ.  Compare prices on Lapua ammo loaded with their Scenar bullets to the cost of reloads.

Shop around for a better price on empty brass.  $80/100 is waay too high, even for Lapua.

Compare the cost of Lapua brass (loaded or empty) to the cost of Winchester brass.
1/15/2016 1:31:05 PM EDT
[#11]
I didn't buy the 80.00 brass at Amazon, yes the loaded stuff is 55gr. I just thought was funny, nevermind.

I'm sitting here looking at the frost covering the ground, getting ready to start packing up. Try to leave here about 11:00 or so, let it warm up as much as possible.

Thinking that I might just take the RPR and concentrate on that Today. Sight it in and clean it at 50yards, move over to 100, and set up My targetcam to try out. Run a box of FGMM 168, then shot My loads.
1/15/2016 4:10:10 PM EDT
[#12]
You guys are right. My evaluation was based on typical deer hunting ammo.

For years I loaded hunting ammo for family and friends. If the person didn't have brass there was no savings in hand loading. This was especially true for any of the "normal" deer hunting calibers that just about every "big" and even little store typically carried around hunting season.

Once you had the brass though you were set. Besides minute of deer accuracy is not difficult to get. The reason for shooting "reloads"(I still dislike that word) for most of these folks was to save money.

Motor
1/15/2016 8:18:20 PM EDT
[#13]
You could get the same 100rd box for $50. Too steep at $100 $80 for the box.

$50 a box

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