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Posted: 12/24/2008 5:47:03 PM EDT
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Team,
My wonderful wife & son are getting me a 10/22 basic rifle. (model RB) I asked for the most basic configuration as I eventually start modding. I don't plan to drop a huge money on this rifle for at least 1 or 2 years. What are the most basic/must upgrades for reliability? I just want to shoot for several years until I find out what I want to swap out. So far I only know bolt buffer? Is there anything else? Thanks! Oh Merry Christmas & Happy new year!!! |
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No need for a scope on a 22.
Here are some _nice_ open sights though. I have a set and they are absolutely _great_. http://www.tech-sights.com/ |
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http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=11&t=257390
Reliability shouldn't be much of an issue. Accuracy may be for some rifles. Modification thread. Links to plenty of free and low cost mods to make the rifle better. No need for purchasing any trigger modification parts, you can do the same work yourself. For under $10.00 you can get a extended mag release but the new rifles I have seen come with them from the factory. $10.00 will get you an extractor that will be more reliable. |
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Not sure if yours has the new extended magazine release or not, get one if it doesn't.
I got a Volquartsen hammer and sear, that took the trigger pull way down, it's pretty nice now. Volquartsen extractor. Tactical Solutions rail, it's an actual Picatinny rail instead of a Weaver/dovetail combo rail. |
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I'm hearing more and more folks say that sooner or later you'll have issues with it due to the paint on the inside of the receiver flaking off and adding to the crud from the naturally dirty .22 rimfire ammo. You might want to go ahead and remove the paint from the inside before it starts causing problems.
This may be related to the type of solvent used or the newer guns not having as durable paint on/in them as the old ones. It's just something that keeps coming up in peoples' posts about reliability issues and 10/22's. If you can use the tech sights they are sweet compared to the factory sights. If you can't use iron sights then go ahead and put a decent scope on it. Get some spare magazines and put some 1&1/4" sling swivels on it so you can use a GI web sling to help steady your shooting positions. |
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I'd shoot a few bricks through it to break it in, then look on rimfire central for the free and easy mods.
My favorites were the auto bolt release and the trigger job. Take it easy on the trigger job and do a little more if you need it. The rifles i just got for my sons had HORRIBLE triggers, 20 minutes later they were pretty fair. If you need the extended mag release they have a very cheap ($.10) mod to make your own. A couple of factory magazines will up your firepower pretty dramatically for the money. Also the tech sights are really a worthwhile upgrade, especially if you are going to an Appleseed event, which I highly recommend. Tech-sights appleseed Good luck!! |
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Not sure if yours has the new extended magazine release or not, get one if it doesn't. I got a Volquartsen hammer and sear, that took the trigger pull way down, it's pretty nice now. Volquartsen extractor. Tactical Solutions rail, it's an actual Picatinny rail instead of a Weaver/dovetail combo rail. Exactly how do these mods increase the reliability of the gun? It might make it more fun to shoot, but I am not aware of the factory parts you mentioned reduce the ability of the gun to go 'bang'. |
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The 10/22 is a reliable and accurate gun out of the box. Try different ammo to find out what works in it and then just shoot the damn thing. Stick with factory mags until or unless you can find some aftermarket ones that work ok for you. Biggest cause of reliability problems is aftermarket magazines.
Second biggest cause of reliability issues is people trying to fix something that ain't broke. I've lost count of how many times someone starts whining about how their gun is broken only to find out they did a parts swap and/or a trigger job on it. Leave the friggin thing alone. It was made the way it is by professional firearms engineers for a reason. Have fun with your rifle but avoid the temptation of the internet version of keeping up with the Jones's. And that includes the plastic bolt buffer gimmick. |
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Not sure if yours has the new extended magazine release or not, get one if it doesn't. I got a Volquartsen hammer and sear, that took the trigger pull way down, it's pretty nice now. Volquartsen extractor. Tactical Solutions rail, it's an actual Picatinny rail instead of a Weaver/dovetail combo rail. Exactly how do these mods increase the reliability of the gun? It might make it more fun to shoot, but I am not aware of the factory parts you mentioned reduce the ability of the gun to go 'bang'. I can speak only to the extractor, but I had issues with mine from Day one, I hated the rifle because it kept stovepiping. When I replaced the extractor, I noticed it was a bit rounded, I haven't had any problems since replacing it. It's ten bux, and five minutes worth of work, very much worth it compared to the aggravation of clearing malfunctions. |
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It's not basic but....if you have a depth mic or are good with calipers make sure you check the boltface depth.
We were having problems with misfires big time due to light strikes on 2 different rifles. Took the bolts out and decided to check the boltface as compared to the case rims. The bolts were about .010-.012" deeper than the rims which wouldn't allow the FP to hit the rim very good––FP stops at a certain point. I carefully Surface Ground off .008 and .010" leaving .002" to allow for rim variations and dry firing. Not sure if many others have had to do this but misfires are almost nonexistent now. Can't say this is common as I've had others check their 10/22s and they are way better than ours were. On one Aftermarket barrel we also had to chamfer/radius/polish the bottom of the chamber mouth for feeding issues. Basically––other than that do some trigger work and you'll be fine. If you want to be really fine get a match barrel and stock. Nick |
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Quoted: Stick a variable scope on it and be done with it. Ive modded 10/22s to where I had crazy money in them. Yea, you get smoother trigger and maybe a lil better accuracy. but for kids and plinking, leave it be. Nothing wrong with an out of the box 10/22 I can agree about the scope (or a red dot) but I would add a Volquartsen hammer whether for a kid or not. Out-of-the-box 10/22s have TERRIBLE triggers and the age of the shooter won't change that. |
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Go ahead and get a Volquatsen extractor. I have had so many problems with factory extractors that I install one before the first shot is fired.
VQ Extractor Other than that most of the factory stuff will work for years. If you have problems shooting subsonics there are a fwe things you can do. Bolt Chamfering If you don;t want to do it yourself Randy at CPC can do it for you. He does great work for the money. Dolomite |
Hey Guys, Im a new poster (long time reader ) and im having problems with jamming too. I get stove pipes and sometimes when it jams ill find another empty shell by the rod. I also have the paint getting messed up by the magazine. Will the VQ extractor Help out with regular bulk ammo as well? I have the 10-22T
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Hey Guys, Im a new poster (long time reader ) and im having problems with jamming too. I get stove pipes and sometimes when it jams ill find another empty shell by the rod. I also have the paint getting messed up by the magazine. Will the VQ extractor Help out with regular bulk ammo as well? I have the 10-22TThe VQ extractor has helped every extraction/ejection problem I have ever had with 10/22's. If it is a replacement barrel make sure the extractor slot is lined up with the extractor. The extractor should be centered in the slot. As far as the paint, most people who are into 10/22's remove the paint the second there are signs of peeling. Dolomite ETA And welcone to the site. |
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