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Posted: 6/12/2014 4:46:44 AM EDT
So, as I cracked my last pound of W231 I figure I better get some other load data for my 45. While I don't shoot
a ton of 45, I would like to prepare for what appears to be the inevitable. I can't remember the last time I saw
any 231 anywhere. That said, any idea of what the 2nd most popular powder is for 45?
Link Posted: 6/12/2014 5:16:00 AM EDT
"Most popular"--I have no clue. What I do know is that there are many, many powders, both fast and slow burners, that work great in the 45 acp cartridge. A few I've used and been quite happy with include AA5, Bullseye, WSF, and Unique. Powders still present a situation where you need to keep an open mind and buy what is available and for which data are available in your caliber of choice.
Link Posted: 6/12/2014 5:24:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SlimMan:
"Most popular"--I have no clue. What I do know is that there are many, many powders, both fast and slow burners, that work great in the 45 acp cartridge. A few I've used and been quite happy with include AA5, Bullseye, WSF, and Unique. Powders still present a situation where you need to keep an open mind and buy what is available and for which data are available in your caliber of choice.
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I have ten pounds of #5, 8lbs of Red dot and I know I can find a recipe with the powder I have, just curious
what the hive says. Am I safe in assuming that W231 is the most popular for 45? Maybe I'm over thinking it.
Link Posted: 6/12/2014 5:45:54 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/12/2014 5:57:13 AM EDT
When I ran out of WW231 I used 700x now that I'm out of that I'm using unique, when I run out of that I'll need to figure out something else....
Link Posted: 6/12/2014 6:05:34 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AJE:
I have been using Red Dot since I found it in stock recently. It's dirtier than WST and doesn't meter as well, but it works well. I'd buy more.

.45ACP has been around for so long that there are tons of loads for it. There is probably data availalbe for just about any handgun and shotgun powder you can find (which is the key nowadays).

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Me too. In fact I am going to load test rounds for Red Dot 45 acp tonight. I am going to load 10 rounds each of 4.0 grains to 5.0 grains in .2 grain increments. 230 gr xtreme plated round nose bullets and WIN LPP....
I have used Red dot in 38, 9mm so far with good results. I will also be loading 380 auto and 40 S&W soon.
Link Posted: 6/12/2014 6:21:48 AM EDT
5 gr of titegroup under a 230rn and you are good to go
Link Posted: 6/12/2014 6:40:02 AM EDT
I like WST in my .45's.

That's starting to get tough to find as well though.

Good luck!
Link Posted: 6/12/2014 7:35:53 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By bwehn:
When I ran out of WW231 I used 700x now that I'm out of that I'm using unique, when I run out of that I'll need to figure out something else....
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Haa, best answer yet. It sucks but it's the reality. I really don't want to get into my #5 or #7 as I use those powders the most
and I don't want to have the same problem with another caliber down the road. I guess I will worry about it when I have to.
Link Posted: 6/12/2014 8:20:59 AM EDT
I will say n320 is darn nice in the .45
Link Posted: 6/12/2014 2:45:48 PM EDT
If you can find it either True Blue or Silhouette work great in 45! Meters like water, burns clean and cool and plenty of load data out there.

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Originally Posted By lockinload:
Am I safe in assuming that W231 is the most popular for 45? Maybe I'm over thinking it.
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Most popular is probably that nasty filthy Unique stuff.


W231 is a great powder for 185 and 200 grain target loads. For 230 grain bullets at full velocity a slower powder such at AA#5.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 7:24:48 AM EDT
The answer to your question may depend on what you can find. I like soft shooting target loads in my 45s using cast bullets, mostly 200 gr. For a 200 gr cast bullet I load 4.2 gr Clays, wonderfully comfortable to shoot and accurate for me. Tor a 230 gr cast bullet, I load 4.0 gr Clays.
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Link Posted: 6/16/2014 10:54:07 AM EDT
5.0 gn of Red Dot under various 230 gn LRN and 230 gn plated. Been shooting that load for years. Red Dot is vary versatile.
Link Posted: 6/16/2014 7:54:39 PM EDT
I have been shooting 5.0 grains of Bullseye in my .45s for decades. It is a great powder for the .45acp.
Link Posted: 6/17/2014 6:26:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 351wsl:
5.0 gn of Red Dot under various 230 gn LRN and 230 gn plated. Been shooting that load for years. Red Dot is vary versatile.
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I'm sitting on an 8lb jug of Red dot so that will probably be my next recipe, I will just have to be more diligent about cleaning after every use.
Link Posted: 6/17/2014 6:36:14 AM EDT
My IPSC load is WST. I buy it when I can and have been trying to keep no less than 8 lbs "in-stock" at any one time. I've been able to find it when I need it. It meters well and shoots reasonably clean.
Link Posted: 6/17/2014 9:25:13 AM EDT
I use 5.2 grains of WW-231 with 200 grain lead semi-wadcutter bullets. It's a mild target load traveling at 800 fps from my 1911. Unburned powder gets ejected with the fired case. My shooting glasses usually has specs of powder on them after extended range sessions. This phenomena has been reported by others as well.

I have favorite powders and so does everyone else. Too many people have loaded .45 acp with great success over the years I think it's impossible to pick just one as a favorite. Bullseye works great and so does Unique with lead bullets. Their are at least a dozen good powders to choose from.
Link Posted: 6/17/2014 9:40:22 AM EDT
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3.8g-4g of Clays 230g. The usual go to.


I have a pound of Red Dot to try.

I also have 4 pounds of CFE pistol to try. I am most confident that this will be my next powder to run for a while.
Link Posted: 6/17/2014 9:47:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By lockinload:


I'm sitting on an 8lb jug of Red dot so that will probably be my next recipe, I will just have to be more diligent about cleaning after every use.
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Originally Posted By lockinload:
Originally Posted By 351wsl:
5.0 gn of Red Dot under various 230 gn LRN and 230 gn plated. Been shooting that load for years. Red Dot is vary versatile.


I'm sitting on an 8lb jug of Red dot so that will probably be my next recipe, I will just have to be more diligent about cleaning after every use.



Nothing wrong with Red Dot other than its dirty - it happens to be the powder I started with. If you can find the modern Red Dot replacement, its called "E3" and is just better in every respect than RD.

Clays would be my choice if you like Win. 231.

BTW - 231 is fast. Whatever you choose - it should also be fast.

Clays is fast. Bullseye is fast, TG is up there. ANd I also really like Solo 1000, especially for lead bullet work (burns cool, less smoke).
Link Posted: 6/17/2014 7:21:56 PM EDT
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BTW - 231 is fast. Whatever you choose - it should also be fast.
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I've made excellent target loads with Green Dot in the past. Slightly dirtier than 231, but fits the same niche.
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