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Posted: 2/25/2023 8:05:21 PM EST
Noreen recently came out with their 50bmg pistol version. Now they got a 16.5" rifle version. The muzzle blast is going to be insane.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 2/25/2023 8:24:02 PM EST
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Yeah, hold my beer and give me that bitch!
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Posted: 2/25/2023 8:28:46 PM EST
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We did a BFG50 16" bolt gun at Serbu once. It was a hoot. Not as much recoil as you would expect. Decent muzzle flash.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 2/25/2023 9:32:30 PM EST
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Remember when Mark sent the shorty to Al here in SoCal?
Can you guess who shot it first?  I think he still has it or Darin does, that was fun to shoot! |
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Posted: 2/25/2023 11:43:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mk-211: Remember when Mark sent the shorty to Al here in SoCal? Can you guess who shot it first? I think he still has it or Darin does, that was fun to shoot! George had a super short single shot Bullpup 50bmg. I forget what that thing was called. |
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Posted: 2/26/2023 11:08:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: George had a super short single shot Bullpup 50bmg. I forget what that thing was called. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: Originally Posted By Mk-211: Remember when Mark sent the shorty to Al here in SoCal? Can you guess who shot it first? I think he still has it or Darin does, that was fun to shoot! George had a super short single shot Bullpup 50bmg. I forget what that thing was called. When I think of super short, bullpup, 50bmg, my first thought is Maadi Griffin |
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Posted: 2/27/2023 2:33:00 PM EST
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I'd like to have a 16.5" rifle chambered in .50 S-T but haven't got around to it yet.
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Posted: 2/27/2023 10:48:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sinsbad69: When I think of super short, bullpup, 50bmg, my first thought is Maadi Griffin Yep. I think it was this. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2022/08/30/hot-gat-fudd-crap-50-bmg-bullpup-blaster-imminent-disaster/ |
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Posted: 2/28/2023 4:24:40 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: Yep. I think it was this. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2022/08/30/hot-gat-fudd-crap-50-bmg-bullpup-blaster-imminent-disaster/ There was a guy in the mid ‘90s that would show up at Knob Creek shoot with a bull pup very similar to that one. Someplace I have a pic of the wife holding it. Can’t remember the guys name now. |
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Posted: 2/28/2023 11:17:09 PM EST
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/1/2023 12:12:58 AM EST
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You might be able to find a copy of the plans to build a Maadi Griffin, mine are buried somewhere in a closet.
How you configure it is up to you. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/2/2023 7:01:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sinsbad69: This is what I think of.. Looks fun https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/58665/F0827AA8-7D89-4E28-BD3F-F896EEFDA95E_jpe-2729441.JPG Cheek weld next to a hand grenade......cool looking but I'll pass on shooting it. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/2/2023 9:51:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sinsbad69: When I think of super short, bullpup, 50bmg, my first thought is Maadi Griffin Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sinsbad69: Originally Posted By realwar: Originally Posted By Mk-211: Remember when Mark sent the shorty to Al here in SoCal? Can you guess who shot it first? I think he still has it or Darin does, that was fun to shoot! George had a super short single shot Bullpup 50bmg. I forget what that thing was called. When I think of super short, bullpup, 50bmg, my first thought is Maadi Griffin I remember the magazine ads for those...and the ATF shutting them down, lol. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/2/2023 9:52:50 PM EST
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Originally Posted By realwar: Noreen recently came out with their 50bmg pistol version. Now they got a 16.5" rifle version. The muzzle blast is going to be insane. Link Yeah... I'll admit, I don't get it. Is the goal to see if you can embed unburnt powder in the people nearby, from the muzzle brake backblast? |
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Posted: 3/5/2023 7:45:08 PM EST
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Looks like you can take the 'stock' off and shoot it like a pistol.
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NV, USA
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Posted: 3/17/2023 7:01:22 AM EST
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Pointless novelty unless you want to
feel similar to a crewman from "Guns of Navarone" when it let loose. Gun of Navarone Crew |
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Posted: 3/17/2023 9:01:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Indrid-Cold: Pointless novelty unless you want to feel similar to a crewman from "Guns of Navarone" when it let loose. Gun of Navarone Crew  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/17/2023 10:57:03 AM EST
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 TESTING THE WORLDS MOST POWERFUL PISTOL - .50 BMG |
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Posted: 3/17/2023 9:06:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryHe hits the plate with Raufoss at the end of this one  The AR-180: The IRA’s Lucky Charm |
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Posted: 3/18/2023 5:09:52 AM EST
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Quote HistoryThat's an 'other' NOT a pistol according to aft.
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UKR
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Posted: 3/18/2023 8:27:06 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cycolac: That's an 'other' NOT a pistol according to aft. The barrel is over 16" and it comes with a stock, so it is a rifle. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 3/19/2023 8:56:52 AM EST
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at altitude I'd want a helmet on
my steyr would give me a headache after 35rds+-low altitude...let's pack a blank and shoot flames! |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 2:47:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By booger-hooker: I'd like to have a 16.5" rifle chambered in .50 S-T but haven't got around to it yet. That would be a hoot. I have around 200 or so Spotter-Tracer rounds and some once fired brass. Should ask Mark about a BFG50 chambered for S-T. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/19/2023 3:24:42 PM EST
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Didn't the company that made the Ultra Lite uppers, make one in 50ST?
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MT, USA
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Posted: 3/19/2023 3:37:40 PM EST
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16” but they’re calling it a pistol and put a brace on it🤪
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Posted: 3/19/2023 3:41:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eviioiive: 16” but they’re calling it a pistol and put a brace on it🤪 It's going to need a brace to shoot it one handed - too muzzle heavy. 
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/19/2023 4:18:52 PM EST
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Needs a brace that goes around your wrist like a SPAS-12 folding stock.
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Posted: 3/19/2023 4:40:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mk-211: Needs a brace that goes around your wrist like a SPAS-12 folding stock. Around the wrist 
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CA, USA
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Posted: 3/19/2023 5:50:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: Mk-211]
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Forearm, my bad.
 https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/57/464/franchi-spas12-semiautomaticslide-action-shotgun-with-folding That curved piece on the stock acts like a carrying handle when folded up. When unfolded, you can turn it sideways and place it under your forearm for support. |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 6:11:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mk-211: Forearm, my bad. https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/57/464/franchi-spas12-semiautomaticslide-action-shotgun-with-folding That curved piece on the stock acts like a carrying handle when folded up. When unfolded, you can turn it sideways and place it under your forearm for support. 
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Posted: 3/19/2023 11:30:24 PM EST
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They got a fully adjustable stock in the works.
https://www.facebook.com/people/Noreen-Firearms/100063569262466/ |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 11:31:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mk-211: Needs a brace that goes around your wrist like a SPAS-12 folding stock. Gear head Mod 2?
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Posted: 3/20/2023 12:32:40 PM EST
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Posted: 3/20/2023 5:18:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32274/Screenshot_2023-03-19_at_21-29-12_Noreen-2753033.JPG What would be the big deal with selling it as pictured with a 16.5" barrel and no stock? Let the customer save a few bucks and install the stock they want. Too bad the other manufacturer wasn't named. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 3/24/2023 1:05:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 50cal: What would be the big deal with selling it as pictured with a 16.5" barrel and no stock? Let the customer save a few bucks and install the stock they want. Too bad the other manufacturer wasn't named. Technically once there is a pistol avail that shoots the caliber, loaded AP ammo is banned for sale. https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/general-notice/armor-piercing-ammunition That would likely catch AP, API, and APIT and piss off a *LOT* of 50 cal shooters. One-off novelty pistols aside, a production model might poke the bear too much. Not a good idea especially at this exact point in time. |
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Posted: 3/26/2023 7:03:15 AM EST
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I have Novelty buy...18" Bohica upper.
Put 50 or so rounds through it, the blast is impressive to say the least. Clears the sinuses out of everybody at the range. |
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NH, USA
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Posted: 3/30/2023 12:24:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By smdub: Technically once there is a pistol avail that shoots the caliber, loaded AP ammo is banned for sale. https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/general-notice/armor-piercing-ammunition That would likely catch AP, API, and APIT and piss off a *LOT* of 50 cal shooters. One-off novelty pistols aside, a production model might poke the bear too much. Not a good idea especially at this exact point in time. Honestly screw any manufacturer that barks up that tree... |
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WY, USA
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Posted: 4/10/2023 1:37:42 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Houlds: Honestly screw any manufacturer that barks up that tree... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Houlds: Originally Posted By smdub: Technically once there is a pistol avail that shoots the caliber, loaded AP ammo is banned for sale. https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/general-notice/armor-piercing-ammunition That would likely catch AP, API, and APIT and piss off a *LOT* of 50 cal shooters. One-off novelty pistols aside, a production model might poke the bear too much. Not a good idea especially at this exact point in time. Honestly screw any manufacturer that barks up that tree... This is simply not true, and has been proven as such many times over many years. Making a pistol that can shoot some random cartridge does not make it a "pistol cartridge", and beyond that the AP law only affects the manufacture and importation, NOT the sale/ownership/use, of such rounds. For those that doubt, just look up the caliber options Thomspon/Center offers (and has for decades), and compare against currently-produced ammunition with solid-brass projectiles. It helps to have the actual law pertaining to "Armor Piercing Ammunition" on hand so you can see the definition they set. I have one of the supposedly-nonexistant Safety Harbor SHTF-50 "pistol" uppers, with a 12.5" barrel that conveniently has a permanent muzzle brake that brings it to 16.5" for deniability purposes. The blast is abusive, the recoil is about the same as a stout 12ga load. My shoulder can take it all day, but my sinuses are only good for 2-3 rounds before I'm getting a headache (and probably risking a retina separation) and need to call it. It still breaks 2000fps with any factory ammo, and even on the lighter end it has 2-3x the energy and momentum of a .308 round at the muzzle. |
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Posted: 4/10/2023 8:18:08 AM EST
[Last Edit: Cycolac]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rudderbutter: This is simply not true, and has been proven as such many times over many years. Making a pistol that can shoot some random cartridge does not make it a "pistol cartridge", and beyond that the AP law only affects the manufacture and importation, NOT the sale/ownership/use, of such rounds. For those that doubt, just look up the caliber options Thomspon/Center offers (and has for decades), and compare against currently-produced ammunition with solid-brass projectiles. It helps to have the actual law pertaining to "Armor Piercing Ammunition" on hand so you can see the definition they set. I have one of the supposedly-nonexistant Safety Harbor SHTF-50 "pistol" uppers, with a 12.5" barrel that conveniently has a permanent muzzle brake that brings it to 16.5" for deniability purposes. The blast is abusive, the recoil is about the same as a stout 12ga load. My shoulder can take it all day, but my sinuses are only good for 2-3 rounds before I'm getting a headache (and probably risking a retina separation) and need to call it. It still breaks 2000fps with any factory ammo, and even on the lighter end it has 2-3x the energy and momentum of a .308 round at the muzzle. Since this is a tech forum... Dear  ETA - I'm impressed that you're still getting 2000fps out of 8-9 inches of barrel. Is that chronographed? |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 9:10:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rudderbutter: This is simply not true, and has been proven as such many times over many years. Making a pistol that can shoot some random cartridge does not make it a "pistol cartridge", and beyond that the AP law only affects the manufacture and importation, NOT the sale/ownership/use, of such rounds. For those that doubt, just look up the caliber options Thomspon/Center offers (and has for decades), and compare against currently-produced ammunition with solid-brass projectiles. It helps to have the actual law pertaining to "Armor Piercing Ammunition" on hand so you can see the definition they set. I have one of the supposedly-nonexistant Safety Harbor SHTF-50 "pistol" uppers, with a 12.5" barrel that conveniently has a permanent muzzle brake that brings it to 16.5" for deniability purposes. The blast is abusive, the recoil is about the same as a stout 12ga load. My shoulder can take it all day, but my sinuses are only good for 2-3 rounds before I'm getting a headache (and probably risking a retina separation) and need to call it. It still breaks 2000fps with any factory ammo, and even on the lighter end it has 2-3x the energy and momentum of a .308 round at the muzzle. |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 11:44:06 PM EST
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Mark Serbu talked about the 50bmg pistol/ammo thing and why he's not selling them in pistol form.
 .50 BMG Micro! |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 4/12/2023 12:38:29 AM EST
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Dam now this is gonna be a hoot to shoot!
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MD, USA
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Posted: 4/12/2023 9:56:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rudderbutter: This is simply not true, and has been proven as such many times over many years. Making a pistol that can shoot some random cartridge does not make it a "pistol cartridge", and beyond that the AP law only affects the manufacture and importation, NOT the sale/ownership/use, of such rounds. For those that doubt, just look up the caliber options Thomspon/Center offers (and has for decades), and compare against currently-produced ammunition with solid-brass projectiles. It helps to have the actual law pertaining to "Armor Piercing Ammunition" on hand so you can see the definition they set. I posted a link to the actual law. There is an exemption for 'single shot' pistols like the TC. Since this 50 is also single-shot it should also be exempt as a true pistol (but I still think it would be poking the bear.) |
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Posted: 4/13/2023 4:25:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By smdub: I posted a link to the actual law. There is an exemption for 'single shot' pistols like the TC. Since this 50 is also single-shot it should also be exempt as a true pistol (but I still think it would be poking the bear.) Don't poke the bear. The aft could |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 4/13/2023 6:48:29 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By smdub: Technically once there is a pistol avail that shoots the caliber, loaded AP ammo is banned for sale. https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/general-notice/armor-piercing-ammunition That would likely catch AP, API, and APIT and piss off a *LOT* of 50 cal shooters. One-off novelty pistols aside, a production model might poke the bear too much. Not a good idea especially at this exact point in time. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By smdub: Originally Posted By 50cal: What would be the big deal with selling it as pictured with a 16.5" barrel and no stock? Let the customer save a few bucks and install the stock they want. Too bad the other manufacturer wasn't named. Technically once there is a pistol avail that shoots the caliber, loaded AP ammo is banned for sale. https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/general-notice/armor-piercing-ammunition That would likely catch AP, API, and APIT and piss off a *LOT* of 50 cal shooters. One-off novelty pistols aside, a production model might poke the bear too much. Not a good idea especially at this exact point in time. Which is why I think it's pretty fucking stupid. All for a novelty muzzle flashbang. |
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Posted: 4/13/2023 4:34:57 PM EST
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With all the what the ATF considered AR pistols, it would seem they would have taken issue with M855 green tip.
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Posted: 4/13/2023 9:41:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 50cal: With all the what the ATF considered AR pistols, it would seem they would have taken issue with M855 green tip. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2023 6:57:22 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 50cal: With all the what the ATF considered AR pistols, it would seem they would have taken issue with M855 green tip. They did. But if you look at the ATF doc I linked there are at least three AP rounds that are currently exempted due to 'sporting use'. M109, M855, and 30-06 M2. It alludes to others that have applied for exemption but I suspect they are low production 'solids'? |
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Posted: 4/15/2023 9:23:16 AM EST
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 Noreen ULR Mini .50 BMG |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2023 8:21:57 PM EST
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I fired my tan ulr50 mini Last weekend, scariest thing ive fired by a wide margin
 I do look a little deranged ive been working through a stroke and heart failure |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2023 8:32:30 PM EST
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the recoil was no worse than my mosin nagant but the muzzle blast was comparable to my implanted defibrillator firing
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