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Posted: 11/2/2009 12:05:36 PM EST
where can I find the specs that the m16 is built from.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:30:34 PM EST
IIRC its not legal to own a copy unless it's licensed from Colt. I'm sure someone with way more knowledge on this stuff than me will be along shortly.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:33:54 PM EST
DO you mean Milspec? or te TDP. because you cant even look at the TDP
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:35:08 PM EST
here are some MIlspecs

Mislpec and other related
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:36:20 PM EST
ive never heard of the term tdp, what does that mean?
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:37:35 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:38:04 PM EST
TDP means Technical Data Package

its colts intellectual property, what makes a M16 a M16, and all the spec, testing, materials etc that goes into it, not the reverse designed copies of Non colt rifles
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 12:43:56 PM EST
i ment the spec the DoD sent out for companies like colt to build from and bid on the contract.

the TDP would be cool to get also but i bet thats harder to get.

i will look over the links provided, thanks
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 1:14:33 PM EST
Originally Posted By aggiez28:
i ment the spec the DoD sent out for companies like colt to build from and bid on the contract.

the TDP would be cool to get also but i bet thats harder to get.

i will look over the links provided, thanks




you will NEVER see the TDP it is owned by colt. the Milspec is not sent out by the gov. it is also based on colts design
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 2:20:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2009 2:23:15 PM EST by Gamma762]
Originally Posted By aggiez28:
i ment the spec the DoD sent out for companies like colt to build from and bid on the contract.

That would be the TDP. When they put out the M16A2 and A4 for bid, interested bidders signed a non-disclosure agreement and were provided with the TDP IIRC. A while back the TDP for the M4 was sent out to several companies by the mil due to a snafu.

Supposedly the reason that FN can't sell ARs commercially is because they have the TDP for the M16A2/A4 after they won that contract, and it was put in as terms of the contract. Which is a raw deal because LMT has the TDP (for their Mk18 contract) yet they are not bound by a similar restriction.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 2:27:13 PM EST
I dont think LMT has the TDP. I know how that rumor got started, there is no evidence of any contracts for the CQBR being awarded to LMT or anyone other than colt
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 2:28:33 PM EST

Originally Posted By aggiez28:
i ment the spec the DoD sent out for companies like colt to build from and bid on the contract.

the TDP would be cool to get also but i bet thats harder to get.

i will look over the links provided, thanks
The DoD does not send out the specs for the M4 to Colt. Colt sends them to the DoD. Colt OWNS the specs to the M4. Now recently the sole source contract expired, meaning the DoD could now send copies of the TDP to other makers. However, the specs are still Colt property, and the DoD has to pay Colt royalties if they choose to go that route
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 2:38:40 PM EST
Originally Posted By aggiez28:
where can I find the specs that the m16 is built from.


Such bantering derived from such a simple headline question!

All MIL specs are housed at the US DoD Defense Standardization Program (DSP) website. Most of them are freely viewable by anyone. Go to http://assist.daps.dla.mil/quicksearch/

The MIL specs for the various AR-15 variants used by the DoD are indeed determined and written by the DoD, and include performance requirements and test methods and criteria. What they do not include, however, is the dimensions and techniques needed to actually manufacture the AR-15. Those are the details that are included in the TDP, which is owned by Colt and is not (officially) available.
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 6:12:32 PM EST
has the TDP leaked out and is it floating around the net?
Link Posted: 11/2/2009 6:28:47 PM EST
Originally Posted By aggiez28:
has the TDP leaked out and is it floating around the net?


still looking.
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