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Posted: 3/25/2015 8:59:07 AM EDT
What is the most cost-effective option?
I assume something steel like wolf?
Link Posted: 3/25/2015 9:08:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/25/2015 9:11:04 AM EDT by jparish62]
Depends on the price you can get, but usually yes wolf and tula steel cased is the most cost effective. Perfecta is pretty cheap too. I believe its made by fiocci.
Another cost effective ammo you may want to consider is federal aluminum cased. I find it for under $10 per box of 50 rnds at Walmart. Just can't reload it.
Link Posted: 3/25/2015 9:11:04 AM EDT
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Depends on the price you can get, but usually yes wolf and tula steel cased is the most cost effective. Perfecta is pretty cheap too. I believe its made by fiocci.
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Sans reloading, this.
Link Posted: 3/25/2015 11:50:57 AM EDT
I use the red box Geco 9mm from AIM. Bought in bulk for like $11.25 a box plus shipping.

I used to use Silver Bear when it was cheap, but haven't seen that in a long time.

Link Posted: 3/25/2015 1:01:18 PM EDT
I make my own...and it's better.......
Link Posted: 3/25/2015 1:31:33 PM EDT
Blazer sometimes can be found around $11 a box online.
Link Posted: 3/25/2015 2:12:37 PM EDT
I would avoid the Federal aluminum stuff.
If it won't run a CZ 75 then it's junk.
Link Posted: 3/25/2015 8:08:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/26/2015 7:57:04 AM EDT by jparish62]
Your post made me want to go check supply. Lol
Just ran to Walmart and they had perfecta in stock at $9.47/box of 50

ETA: the EE on here has a listing for a case (500rnds) of blazer for $125 shipped
Link Posted: 3/26/2015 7:35:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Slacker:
I would avoid the Federal aluminum stuff.
If it won't run a CZ 75 then it's junk.
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Well crap - I just bought 3 boxes of it to try in my G19.

Shoulda' known at $10 a box it was to cheap to be good.
Link Posted: 3/26/2015 7:41:30 PM EDT
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Well crap - I just bought 3 boxes of it to try in my G19.

Shoulda' known at $10 a box it was to cheap to be good.
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Originally Posted By GGF:
Originally Posted By Slacker:
I would avoid the Federal aluminum stuff.
If it won't run a CZ 75 then it's junk.



Well crap - I just bought 3 boxes of it to try in my G19.

Shoulda' known at $10 a box it was to cheap to be good.


Its fine. Some pistols are pickier than others. My glock and m&p both run it great
Link Posted: 3/26/2015 7:42:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Slacker:
I would avoid the Federal aluminum stuff.
If it won't run a CZ 75 then it's junk.
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My M&P runs it all day. Accurate too.

I buy whatever walmart has the cheapest and it all runs. I am starting to reload 9, soon I will only shoot my reloads.
Link Posted: 3/26/2015 8:03:25 PM EDT
I just got a box of the Federal aluminum stuff to try out in my G22, but I've shot steel/aluminum cased stuff for years in my G19 and had zero issues. The Wolf steel case FMJ is like $9.95 at my local Wal-Mart, it usually works well.

Otherwise I've always shot Winchester and Federal 115gr FMJ brass cased ammo. Nowadays you may be able to find something a little cheaper online.
Link Posted: 3/26/2015 8:30:15 PM EDT
SGA has Remington UMC for 11.49/box if you buy a min. of 10 boxes. Never had any issues with this in my Glocks,.
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 12:50:05 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Slacker:
I would avoid the Federal aluminum stuff.
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I've ran hundreds of rounds thru my 75b with no issues.
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 1:32:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2015 1:32:45 AM EDT by Toddrick]
9mm ammo availability is good again, as are the prices back to normal. I only use brass, but anything less than $11 a box is a good price IMO. You can get a case for just over $200. That isn't cheap, but unless you have connections, $.20/per is the best you can do. Reloading will cost about the same, unless you use lead projectiles. I haven't been able to find good FMJ projectiles for much less than $.15/per since 2013.
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 5:04:43 AM EDT
I just use either Federal 115 grain fmj or Blazer for my plinking ammo.
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 6:58:43 AM EDT
Here in southern TN, Perfecta 9mm is $7.50 a box after tax.

I'm going broke.
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 1:46:59 PM EDT
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I would avoid the Federal aluminum stuff.
If it won't run a CZ 75 then it's junk.
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Link Posted: 3/27/2015 2:07:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By M60A3:
Here in southern TN, Perfecta 9mm is $7.50 a box after tax.

I'm going broke.
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Which Walmart? All the ones is SE TN are at $10.97 (still not too bad).
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 2:23:18 PM EDT
The Federal Aluminum works great in my P226 (9mm) and 1911 (45).
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 2:27:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Slacker:
I would avoid the Federal aluminum stuff.
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Runs perfect in my glocks. I assumes this is just CCI blazer renamed..... which has always run 100% in everything I tried, including a CZ75.
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 10:11:54 PM EDT
I run Wolf, Blazer aluminum, White box, etc... with no issues. But then, I've never found a 9mm that my G19 didn't like
Link Posted: 3/27/2015 11:28:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MaverickAA:
I run Wolf, Blazer aluminum, White box, etc... with no issues. But then, I've never found a 9mm that my G19 didn't like
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I never found a Russian steel case that my glocks WOULD run on. Wolf/Tula both suck with light strikes on hard primers.
Link Posted: 3/28/2015 1:55:16 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By FALARAK:


I never found a Russian steel case that my glocks WOULD run on. Wolf/Tula both suck with light strikes on hard primers.
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Originally Posted By MaverickAA:
I run Wolf, Blazer aluminum, White box, etc... with no issues. But then, I've never found a 9mm that my G19 didn't like


I never found a Russian steel case that my glocks WOULD run on. Wolf/Tula both suck with light strikes on hard primers.

You need to get your Glock looked at. Should run anything.
Fwiw, mine's a '93 Gen 2 with thousands of flawless rounds. Zero failures with ANY ammo, and still all factory (all original parts).
Link Posted: 3/28/2015 9:07:08 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MaverickAA:

You need to get your Glock looked at. Should run anything.
Fwiw, mine's a '93 Gen 2 with thousands of flawless rounds. Zero failures with ANY ammo, and still all factory (all original parts).
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Originally Posted By MaverickAA:
Originally Posted By FALARAK:
Originally Posted By MaverickAA:
I run Wolf, Blazer aluminum, White box, etc... with no issues. But then, I've never found a 9mm that my G19 didn't like


I never found a Russian steel case that my glocks WOULD run on. Wolf/Tula both suck with light strikes on hard primers.

You need to get your Glock looked at. Should run anything.
Fwiw, mine's a '93 Gen 2 with thousands of flawless rounds. Zero failures with ANY ammo, and still all factory (all original parts).


Shooting with several other glock shooters, who all have the same experience with tula primers. About 2-3 out of every mag wont go bang. This is common from several striker fired pistols.
Link Posted: 3/28/2015 9:16:46 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/28/2015 9:00:21 PM EDT
lucky gunner has tula, magtech, and brown bear for $220 per 1000, also they have my plinking preference 'military ballistic industries' $215 per thousand made in America and supports our police and military. also here in florida a company in Miami 'hawksight' makes practice ammo, all types, $210 per 1000 9mm. all fmj.
Link Posted: 4/3/2015 9:49:49 AM EDT
Locally $11/box for 9mm is the cheapest available, usually either Monarch steel from Academy or UMC/PMC from Walmart. For $1 more/box Academy sells Monarch brass. Reliability with steel varies, most of my 9mm pistols & rifles run steel just fine, but in .45acp I can run Wolf steel no problem in everything I have but half of those pistols choke on Silver bear .45acp. Some indoor ranges frown on steel ammo as well.

$11/box is 22 cents/round, $12/box is 24 cents/round. For 26 cents/round I just order bulk reloads, last batch was 147 gr +P for $130/500 rounds before shipping. The quality of the ammo is much nicer than the Monarch or UMC/PMC and I can get something besides just 115gr.
Link Posted: 4/3/2015 1:42:47 PM EDT
I'll buy whatever brass ammo I can find on sale for around $11/box, but I also buy remanufactured ammo from Freedom Munitions for plinking. They run specials all the time so I tend buy in bulk from them when the price is right.
Link Posted: 4/3/2015 2:43:13 PM EDT
I think I would rather avoid steel cased ammo with steel jackets, leading to slightly accelerated wear of the barrel / extractor / etc.

I've had good luck with Blazer stuff, as cheap as it gets. Down to 20 cents each.

Dick's sporting goods has Blazer Brass for 26 cents each FWIW. (350 round case for about 90)
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Originally Posted By Toddrick:
9mm ammo availability is good again, as are the prices back to normal. I only use brass, but anything less than $11 a box is a good price IMO. You can get a case for just over $200. That isn't cheap, but unless you have connections, $.20/per is the best you can do. Reloading will cost about the same, unless you use lead projectiles. I haven't been able to find good FMJ projectiles for much less than $.15/per since 2013.
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$.15 for a bullet? What are you buying man!!?

My completed 9mm reloads run $.13-14/round with 115 FMJ, 124HP or 147FMJ bullets. Just have to keep eyes open and buy things on sale.

Try Rainier or better yet Xtreme. Xtreme is running a sale today actually 9mm 147G HP for 47.81/500 and $5.00 flat shipping..
http://www.xtremebullets.com/dealoftheday.asp?utm_source=eblast&utm_medium=email&utm_content=xc9mm&utm_campaign=deal-of-the-day
Link Posted: 4/3/2015 10:39:49 PM EDT
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I don't know about "back to normal" prices, but availability is fine. And I guess $11 to $15 for "cheap" brass case is the NEW NORMAL. It wasn't that long ago that good brass range ammo was $6 to $8 a box (I have a case of Federal 124 gr NATO ammo that was $6 a box) and the steel was $4 or $5 a box. Inflation doesn't account for all of that change.

Rob
Link Posted: 4/4/2015 12:21:59 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By lamrith:


$.15 for a bullet? What are you buying man!!?

My completed 9mm reloads run $.13-14/round with 115 FMJ, 124HP or 147FMJ bullets. Just have to keep eyes open and buy things on sale.

Try Rainier or better yet Xtreme. Xtreme is running a sale today actually 9mm 147G HP for 47.81/500 and $5.00 flat shipping..
http://www.xtremebullets.com/dealoftheday.asp?utm_source=eblast&utm_medium=email&utm_content=xc9mm&utm_campaign=deal-of-the-day
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Originally Posted By Toddrick:
9mm ammo availability is good again, as are the prices back to normal. I only use brass, but anything less than $11 a box is a good price IMO. You can get a case for just over $200. That isn't cheap, but unless you have connections, $.20/per is the best you can do. Reloading will cost about the same, unless you use lead projectiles. I haven't been able to find good FMJ projectiles for much less than $.15/per since 2013.


$.15 for a bullet? What are you buying man!!?

My completed 9mm reloads run $.13-14/round with 115 FMJ, 124HP or 147FMJ bullets. Just have to keep eyes open and buy things on sale.

Try Rainier or better yet Xtreme. Xtreme is running a sale today actually 9mm 147G HP for 47.81/500 and $5.00 flat shipping..
http://www.xtremebullets.com/dealoftheday.asp?utm_source=eblast&utm_medium=email&utm_content=xc9mm&utm_campaign=deal-of-the-day


Rocky Mountain has plated 9mm for $70-80/1000 usually. They throw out a 10% off coupon every now and then and shipping is free.
I shoot their plated bullets in all my pistols as well as an NFA Thompson and MP-40 with no problems.
RMR 9mm
Link Posted: 4/6/2015 12:27:21 AM EDT
Freedomunition ammo is pretty good for plinking never had a issue
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Freedomunition ammo is pretty good for plinking never had a issue
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^^^THIS^^^ I train exclusively with this ammo and have never had a malfunction plus right now it's 5% off and if you're a new customer you get free shipping.
Link Posted: 4/6/2015 4:37:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Slacker:
I would avoid the Federal aluminum stuff.
If it won't run a CZ 75 then it's junk.
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My Glocks love Blazer aluminum. In fact I've never had a malfunction in over 5,000 plus rounds.
Link Posted: 4/6/2015 2:39:26 PM EDT
Never ordered from Freedom Munitions but they have 115 gr 9mm for $11/box or 500 rounds bulk for $100. If shipping is reasonable that's a pretty good price.
I just picked up some 147 gr 9mm +P reloads from North Georgia Reloading for $130/500 which I consider a pretty good deal, I've shot their 115 gr 9mm and 230 gr .45acp with good results. But I think their price is $130/500 across the board, whether it's 115 or 147 or +P or not.

The shipping is what hurts, SGammo has Speer Lawman 115 gr 9mm for under $12/box, cheaper than Academy Sports Monarch brass 115 gr 9mm. Last box of Speer lawman 9mm I saw at Academy was $15/box.
Link Posted: 4/6/2015 3:18:43 PM EDT
WalMart has aluminum cased 9mm 115 grain from Federal, which is the same as CCI Blazer, for $9.97 a box. Comes out to $10.79 out the door.

If I could find something cheaper than that out the door/to my door, I'd buy it. However, thus far, it doesn't exist.
Link Posted: 4/12/2015 2:12:33 PM EDT
The other day at Walmart I asked what the price is on the Perfecta ammo. He scanned a box and it was $10.49. I think the shelf label says $14.xx. I think this is brass cased ammo by Fiocchi. If so, this is a pretty good price I think for today and brass cased. Quantico Tactical has Blazer Brass for $229 per 1000, but they don't ship so it is only available if one of their stores is near you. One consideration is that most shipped ammo won't have sales tax, which can be significant.

Rob
Link Posted: 4/12/2015 5:24:14 PM EDT
Blazer aluminum , which as also being sold as Federal now is $10 a box at wally . Not only is it decent practice . The guy I shoot with has had class wins at the GSSF with it . plenty accurate .
Link Posted: 4/12/2015 5:54:39 PM EDT
Do you guys all shoot 115gr? I just love the recoil impulse of the 147gr too much.
Link Posted: 4/12/2015 6:02:35 PM EDT
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Blazer aluminum , which as also being sold as Federal now is $10 a box at wally . Not only is it decent practice . The guy I shoot with has had class wins at the GSSF with it . plenty accurate .
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I have been competing in pistol matches and 3gun for years now and almost exclusively using CCI Blazer aluminum. It is the most reliable, cheapest, AND accurate ammo I have found. Odd those three are all wrapped up together.
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Do you guys all shoot 115gr? I just love the recoil impulse of the 147gr too much.
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My handloads I shoot 147gr plated bullets. I don't find factory 147's all that lighter in recoil, I actually find the recoil too slow and long, while a nice light snap from a factory 115 allows me a faster follow-up shot. I played with both side by side for several hours, and decided on 115's for any factory ammo.
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The other day at Walmart I asked what the price is on the Perfecta ammo. He scanned a box and it was $10.49. I think the shelf label says $14.xx. I think this is brass cased ammo by Fiocchi. If so, this is a pretty good price I think for today and brass cased. Quantico Tactical has Blazer Brass for $229 per 1000, but they don't ship so it is only available if one of their stores is near you. One consideration is that most shipped ammo won't have sales tax, which can be significant.

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My Walmart just dropped the price on perfecta, to 10.97 a box, from 14.97 a box. Now it is reasonable. If they don't have Federal aluminum, that's my next choice.
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Originally Posted By FALARAK:
WalMart has aluminum cased 9mm 115 grain from Federal, which is the same as CCI Blazer, for $9.97 a box. Comes out to $10.79 out the door.

If I could find something cheaper than that out the door/to my door, I'd buy it. However, thus far, it doesn't exist.
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Best deal around.
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Do you guys all shoot 115gr? I just love the recoil impulse of the 147gr too much.
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115 is all I ever shoot. I don't reload.
Link Posted: 4/13/2015 9:47:42 AM EDT
check tradingplacepawn in the EE section, they have great deals on federal brass for 229/239 per 1000 shipped
Link Posted: 5/2/2015 11:08:30 AM EDT
Been buying the Winchester 100rd bulk boxes for a few years in 9mm and .40 from wally world and theisen's. If I planned better I'd buy 1000rd at a time but that's just me. Recently ww had Federal 100rd 9mm fmj boxes at competitive prices so I picked two up. Runs fine.

I use brass case only, collect it all. At some point either I will reload it myself or sort it into like manufacturer bags and sell it to other reloaders. Have all the equipment and reloaded enough to know I can do it right, now I'm just laying in components. Still under 10k rds brass for 9mm and .40 so I choose the lazy way for now. Bought enough primers back in the 2000 scare to keep me in primers for life, but need a decent source for bullets and powder.

Well, I just remembered that I do shoot steel case ammo. In the SKS. It's a cheap Chinese copy of a cheap Russian rifle and it shoots cheap Russian steel case Wolf ammo just fine.
Link Posted: 5/2/2015 4:19:49 PM EDT
I have preferences on ammo, but I've found that most stuff out there is pretty reliable. I prefer Blazer Brass on the low end, but for $1 to $2 more a box I'll buy ZQI NATO rounds. It also has a lot more snap to it and the ejected rounds fly much further. My all time favorite 9mm is IMI. I'll buy some of I'm also getting M193.

I still have a ton of American Eagle red box I bought in 2006-2007 for $120 a case at Sportsmans Guide. That was pretty much the norm then. Brass cased was $120-$140 and steel cased was $105-$110 a case.

The only trouble I've had recently is Monarch (Brown Bear) 115gr. I have 2-3 primer strikes with no destination per box. I thought it was my Glock 17, but it's leaving a really good dent in the primer.
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Originally Posted By MaverickAA:
I run Wolf, Blazer aluminum, White box, etc... with no issues. But then, I've never found a 9mm that my G19 didn't like
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That's because it's a Glock, it will feed square bullets.
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