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Posted: 6/4/2003 10:32:32 AM EDT
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If i am blasting killer milk jugs or their evil cousins-protein jugs, Wolf does just fine at 11 Cents a round! But if i want some real pop and impress with the muzzle flash LC is the way to go at 17 cents per round. |
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Posted: 6/4/2003 10:36:07 AM EDT
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Just so we're clear, Win Q3131 and Q3131A are NOT surplus ammo. They are new-production, as is IMI M193 and Federal XM193.
Surplus M193 would be stuff like the South African battlepacks or Malaysian ammo that used to be available. -Troy |
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Posted: 6/4/2003 11:39:42 AM EDT
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My understanding was that Q3131A was ammo produced for the Israeli military that ended up in Winchester white box packaging. If that is not the case, I apologize...I guess I should have said "milspec/surplus ammo"
Gimme a poll with more than 5 options and I'll break out Q3131A and PMP... [;)] |
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Posted: 6/4/2003 5:29:39 PM EDT
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While Wolf is certainly the most economical choice out there, I would have to say the M193 is "the best" economical ammo. It is hotter, more accurate and uses brass cases which can be reloaded. Some also feel that the brass cases are easier on the gun than the steel cases used in Wolf. For me, it's XM193 and Q3131A for cheap ammo.
As far as the Winchester Q3131A, it is made by IMI of Israel. But this ammo was loaded by them specifically for Winchester to fill the demand in the US civilian market. While it technically is IMI ammo and the same stuff as issued to their military, this ammo wasn't ever loaded for Israeli troops to use. |
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Posted: 6/4/2003 5:41:39 PM EDT
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Quoted: My understanding was that Q3131A was ammo produced for the Israeli military that ended up in Winchester white box packaging. If that is not the case, I apologize... Were that the case, it would be difficult to explain the "WIN 03" headstamps, no? [:)] No big deal; I was just making sure that folks understood the difference. -Troy |
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Posted: 6/5/2003 7:36:36 AM EDT
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If you don't need better than 4" at 200 yards, Wolf is it. I've gone thru countless cases of Wolf and never had a failure. Can't beat it for the price either; trying to work out a large deal right now for 40-50 cases @50-65.
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Posted: 6/5/2003 7:46:51 AM EDT
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Need an option for "ROLL YER OWN"
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Posted: 6/5/2003 7:56:27 AM EDT
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Chaos,
We still talking about ammunition? [;)] |
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Posted: 6/5/2003 4:06:25 PM EDT
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My vote for the best surplus ammo goes to the South African 55-gr M1A3 manufactured by PMP in 1986 vintage. This stuff has the good frag qualities of the more expensive current era ammo, is fairly accurate as numerous posts attest and was dirt cheap at $34 per 300-rd battlepack from the Sportsman's Guide. Fortunately I bought a bunch, but would definitely like to buy some more. Hope another shipment comes across the pond really soon. I've shot over 2,500 rounds of the Wolf 55/62 gr ammo with three different ARs and while I didn't have any failures, that stuff is definitely underpowered and dirty. I ain't buyin' no mo'.
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Posted: 6/5/2003 5:54:42 PM EDT
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Quoted: Chaos, We still talking about ammunition? [;)] But of Course Dawg, I just say NO to Wacky Toobacky |
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